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max2

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Anyway to fix this my iPad Air 2 128 GB lags a little while using and watching a pip video with nPlayer? Mainly in Safari with more than one tab open.
 

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Same reason I got rid of mine. It never ran as smooth since 8.4.1 and I had one month left of Apple Care +
 

stevemiller

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I would expect iPads older than the two Pro models to start lagging a bit as features are added to iOS over time. PiP looks like something that could be taxing on the iPad Air 2's processor.
It still kind of sucks because PiP was introduced with the iPad Air 2, when it was literally the most powerful hardware at the time.

I have a 9.7" pro, and I'm not updating past iOS 9, because I don't want to lose performance on features that worked well when it shipped. I'm fine with not getting newer features, but I don't want to have to accept performance regressions on basic functionality on a $1000 device after a year or two of use. My iPhone after two iOS updates struggles to keep up with typing without a significant lag. TYPING.
 

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It still kind of sucks because PiP was introduced with the iPad Air 2, when it was literally the most powerful hardware at the time.

I have a 9.7" pro, and I'm not updating past iOS 9, because I don't want to lose performance on features that worked well when it shipped. I'm fine with not getting newer features, but I don't want to have to accept performance regressions on basic functionality on a $1000 device after a year or two of use. My iPhone after two iOS updates struggles to keep up with typing without a significant lag. TYPING.
Lol, you should've seen the typing lag on the iPad 3 with iOS 8. You could type a whole paragraph before the letters show up. :p

And this plus extra storage is why I got my mom a Pro 9.7 instead of Air 2 to replace her iPad 3 LTE. Verizon was offering $150 discount on iPads with installment plan (no upgrade fee) which was higher than any discount offered by retailers (and most weren't discounting the LTE model at the time). For $250 or ~$10.50/mo difference (Air 2 64GB LTE vs Pro 9.7 128GB LTE), figured might as well get the better model. Long run, it's the data plan that's pricey anyway, and I'm already paying that either way.
 

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Lol, you should've seen the typing lag on the iPad 3 with iOS 8. You could type a whole paragraph before the letters show up. :p

And this plus extra storage is why I got my mom a Pro 9.7 instead of Air 2 to replace her iPad 3 LTE. Verizon was offering $150 discount on iPads with installment plan (no upgrade fee) which was higher than any discount offered by retailers (and most weren't discounting the LTE model at the time). For $250 or ~$10.50/mo difference (Air 2 64GB LTE vs Pro 9.7 128GB LTE), figured might as well get the better model. Long run, it's the data plan that's pricey anyway, and I'm already paying that either way.
Oh. Oh I came from an iPad 3. I know the struggle.
 

max2

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Thanks everyone looks like I am getting a iPad Pro 2
 

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It still kind of sucks because PiP was introduced with the iPad Air 2, when it was literally the most powerful hardware at the time.

I have a 9.7" pro, and I'm not updating past iOS 9, because I don't want to lose performance on features that worked well when it shipped. I'm fine with not getting newer features, but I don't want to have to accept performance regressions on basic functionality on a $1000 device after a year or two of use. My iPhone after two iOS updates struggles to keep up with typing without a significant lag. TYPING.
No, PiP was introduced with iOS 9 on the iPad pro.
Its Apple's planned obsolescence strategy.
Apple does not retrofit the function to the iPad air 2 because it is not powerfull enough to run it 100% smooth --> planned obsolescence
Apple retrofit the function to the iPad air 2 but it lag a bit because it is not powerfull enough --> planned obsolescence
 

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For what it's worth, I also have an iPad Air 2 running iOS 10.3 (beta 3) and I do not experience any noticeable lag while running PiP video and using other apps. I tested it pretty extensively after reading this thread, and the only lag I can see is when I really look for it (i.e. opening many tabs and scrolling as fast as possible in Safari with PiP rinning). I do not use nPlayer, but I tried with both iTunes content (streaming and from local storage) and Netflix, and I appreciated no significant lag.

Perhaps a restore (from backup and/or as new) may help..? There are a couple of variables: I don't have nPlayer, I am on iOS 10.3, and my iPad was purchased (new in box) only last October, 2016. So, again maybe a restore...
 
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stevemiller

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No, PiP was introduced with iOS 9 on the iPad pro.
Apologies, I didn't mean the air 2 launched with pip, but when pip was introduced/launched, the air 2 was still the most powerful iPad you could buy. ios9 was introduced in June 2015 (when he air 2 was barely half a year old) and launched sept 15, 2015. The iPad Pro launched nov 11, 2015.

Anyway the spirit of my point was how rapidly Apple introduces iOS features that negatively impact basic device responsiveness, even with the relatively powerful hardware advancements of the last few years. By contrast I've found far less noticeable degradation year to year with macOS, even on hardware that benchmarks slower than the current generation of iOS hardware!
 
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max2

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For what it's worth, I also have an iPad Air 2 running iOS 10.3 (beta 3) and I do not experience any noticeable lag while running PiP video and using other apps. I tested it pretty extensively after reading this thread, and the only lag I can see is when I really look for it (i.e. opening many tabs and scrolling as fast as possible in Safari with PiP rinning). I do not use nPlayer, but I tried with both iTunes content (streaming and from local storage) and Netflix, and I appreciated no significant lag.

Perhaps a restore (from backup and/or as new) may help..? There are a couple of variables: I don't have nPlayer, I am on iOS 10.3, and my iPad was purchased (new in box) only last October, 2016. So, again maybe a restore...
Thank you for the test.
 
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Anyway to fix this my iPad Air 2 128 GB lags a little while using and watching a pip video with nPlayer? Mainly in Safari with more than one tab open.
I've just tested it on my iPad Air 2 running iOS 10.3. PIP mode (using iPlayer and Plex) is working fine here with multiple tabs open in Safari. Maybe the issue is nPlayer?
 
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Its Apple's planned obsolescence strategy. I bought an iPad Pro to get that lag out of my life
...or it could have something to do with pushing out yearly OS updates that introduce new features and utilize newer hardware.

The planned obsolescence argument is such a weak one that I've never understood. Would you rather Apple never update the OS? Or maybe just not introduce newer hardware?

By the way, these are serious questions. I'd genuinely like to know what you'd suggest instead of Apple inteoducing improved hardware and software.

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Anyway to fix this my iPad Air 2 128 GB lags a little while using and watching a pip video with nPlayer? Mainly in Safari with more than one tab open.
iPad 2 =/= iPad Air 2
 
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max2

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I've just tested it on my iPad Air 2 running iOS 10.3. PIP mode (using iPlayer and Plex) is working fine here with multiple tabs open in Safari. Maybe the issue is nPlayer?
Thanks maybe will try my free trial of Infuse Pro to see if there is any difference.
 

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The planned obsolescence argument is such a weak one that I've never understood. Would you rather Apple never update the OS? Or maybe just not introduce newer hardware?

By the way, these are serious questions. I'd genuinely like to know what you'd suggest instead of Apple inteoducing improved hardware and software.

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iPad 2 =/= iPad Air 2
Honestly, I'd just love it if Apple stopped pushing iOS updates past year 2. let it be optional.

Of course, ideally we should be able to roll back to previous iOS versions, but that is crazy because then there would be thousands of people out there with iPad 2s running great on iOS 7. Instead I just sold my 2 and ordered an Air. All told, a $60 upgrade with eBay fees and shipping.
[doublepost=1488158913][/doublepost]Also, I can't imagine an Air 2 lagging. I vote for a factory reset, then restore. That should make a difference for you.
 
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Relentless Power

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For what it's worth, I also have an iPad Air 2 running iOS 10.3 (beta 3) and I do not experience any noticeable lag while running PiP video and using other apps. I tested it pretty extensively after reading this thread, and the only lag I can see is when I really look for it (i.e. opening many tabs and scrolling as fast as possible in Safari with PiP rinning). I do not use nPlayer, but I tried with both iTunes content (streaming and from local storage) and Netflix, and I appreciated no significant lag.

Perhaps a restore (from backup and/or as new) may help..? There are a couple of variables: I don't have nPlayer, I am on iOS 10.3, and my iPad was purchased (new in box) only last October, 2016. So, again maybe a restore...
What Shocks me, is how fast my iPad Air 2 still performs. I compared it to the 9.7 Pro and I honestly can't really see much of a difference in terms of speed. March will be interesting to see what this new 10.5 iPad is all about.
 
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Patcell

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What Shocks me, is how fast my iPad Air 2 still performs. I compared it to the 9.7 Pro and I honestly can't really see much of a difference in terms of speed. March will be interesting to see what this new 10.5 iPad is all about.
I compeletely agree. The pencil is cool, but I feel absolutely no need to upgrade to the 9.7 Pro. When I start to lose out on new features with iOS updates, I will consider new hardware. The 10.5" - if it comes to be - may be an interesting upgrade...
 
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What Shocks me, is how fast my iPad Air 2 still performs. I compared it to the 9.7 Pro and I honestly can't really see much of a difference in terms of speed. March will be interesting to see what this new 10.5 iPad is all about.
Sorry but there is a huge difference in speed between iPad Pro and Air 2. I own both and the Pro is able to retain almost all apps in memory while the Air 2 cant hold more than 5. App load times are slower. Just try opening the Amazon app on Pro vs Air 2. The Pro will load the app twice while the AIr 2 loads once. There are also no animation stutters on Pro while I frequently see scroll stutter in widgets on Air 2
 

Patcell

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Sorry but there is a huge difference in speed between iPad Pro and Air 2. I own both and the Pro is able to retain almost all apps in memory while the Air 2 cant hold more than 5. App load times are slower. Just try opening the Amazon app on Pro vs Air 2. The Pro will load the app twice while the AIr 2 loads once. There are also no animation stutters on Pro while I frequently see scroll stutter in widgets on Air 2
I have no doubt that the 9.7 Pro is far faster. It's much newer hardware. We were just commenting on how well the Air 2 has held up after two plus years. It runs the latest software with very minimal lag if any. Personally, I do not feel the need to run out and buy a Pro. That may very well change after the new devices are released this year...
 

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I have no doubt that the 9.7 Pro is far faster. It's much newer hardware. We were just commenting on how well the Air 2 has held up after two plus years. It runs the latest software with very minimal lag if any. Personally, I do not feel the need to run out and buy a Pro. That may very well change after the new devices are released this year...
Compared to the iPad Mini it definitely aged better.
 
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Relentless Power

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Sorry but there is a huge difference in speed between iPad Pro and Air 2. I own both and the Pro is able to retain almost all apps in memory while the Air 2 cant hold more than 5. App load times are slower. Just try opening the Amazon app on Pro vs Air 2. The Pro will load the app twice while the AIr 2 loads once. There are also no animation stutters on Pro while I frequently see scroll stutter in widgets on Air 2
Why are you apologizing? It's a discussion. Anyways, yes, the Pro is faster. Actually only 19% faster. From my experiences, I feel my Air 2 has competed on many levels with the Pro 9.7. I noticed hardly any lag between both models when multitasking between applications and media. But, the Pro is quicker in opening pages and applications in a incremental variance.

On a side note, I haven't come across the issues you observed. And I own both for comparison.

And as @Patcell stated, there are quite a few forum members who have not upgraded to how well the Air 2 has managed the current OS and overall production in speed.
 

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Anyway to fix this my iPad Air 2 128 GB lags a little while using and watching a pip video with nPlayer? Mainly in Safari with more than one tab open.[/QUOTE notreally s fix, try turning off background app refresh and disable indexing because I have a Air 2 running flawless on iOS 10 as good as when I got it with iOS 8.
If that doesn't work try a restore without restoring a backup I do that every update and have no issues with "bugs"
 
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