iPad 2 teardown - what do you want to know?

[Yaboze]

You would probably buy an Apple made automobile that didn't have the MPG listed on it. Just because it would be a great driving experience, you'd put down your hard earned cash because they said it was "great".

That's how idiotic you sound.

Make fun of people who like "stats" or "numbers", but they do mean something. If it's cell phones, digital cameras or cars, numbers mean things as well as the experience.

 

[Carouser]

You would probably buy an Apple made automobile that didn't have the MPG listed on it. Just because it would be a great driving experience, you'd put down your hard earned cash because they said it was "great".

That's how idiotic you sound.

If the iPad runs fine, I don't care what the RAM is.
If the car got good gas mileage, I wouldn't care what the MPG was.

The car scenario is highly unlikely, since my knowledge of gas mileage is always already quantified and it's a tautology. In the iPad case, however, I can try the iPad, say 'This runs fast, I never wait for anything, it's great'. Should I wait to know the amount of RAM before I buy it? I don't care if there's sawdust inside if the thing does what I want.

 

[outz]

How about wanting to know how well it works before you assume (1) it doesn't have enough RAM and (2) that it needs 512 MB. If it works fine, I don't care about spending the money because then the amount of RAM is irrelevant.

the amount of ram is hardly irrelevant. just because you're ready to throw money at apple prior to doing your homework doesnt mean everyone else is.

 

[Carouser]

the amount of ram is hardly irrelevant. just because you're ready to throw money at apple prior to doing your homework doesnt mean everyone else is.

That's a poor misrepresentation of my position; next time you can consult what I actually wrote.

'Doing my homework' includes going to the Apple store and using the iPad for an extended period of time and trying different things to see how it performs. If it performs beautifully, but the Apple salesperson then tells me there's 128 MB of RAM in it, I'm not going to pout and put it back on the shelf 'bawww there's not enough RAM'. If it works terribly and the guy tells me there's 4 GB of RAM I'm going to leave it and walk out anyway. I understand 'more RAM = better than' but knowing the specific number doesn't matter one bit, I have no idea how it could affect anybody else's purchase decision, since in the end how the device works is what matters. The best way to tell how it works is to use it.

 

[outz]

That's a poor misrepresentation of my position; next time you can consult what I actually wrote.

'Doing my homework' includes going to the Apple store and using the iPad for an extended period of time and trying different things to see how it performs. If it performs beautifully, but the Apple salesperson then tells me there's 128 MB of RAM in it, I'm not going to pout and put it back on the shelf 'bawww there's not enough RAM'. If it works terribly and the guy tells me there's 4 GB of RAM I'm going to leave it and walk out anyway. I understand 'more RAM = better than' but knowing the specific number doesn't matter one bit, I have no idea how it could affect anybody else's purchase decision, since in the end how the device works is what matters. The best way to tell how it works is to use it.

if you don't know the various little issues 256MB of ram has caused the current ipad then you've clearly not 'done your homework'... just because grandma and grandpa are satisfied with basic functionality and don't care about those "pesky useless numbers" doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't.

 

[gloss]

You would probably buy an Apple made automobile that didn't have the MPG listed on it. Just because it would be a great driving experience, you'd put down your hard earned cash because they said it was "great".

That's how idiotic you sound.

Make fun of people who like "stats" or "numbers", but they do mean something. If it's cell phones, digital cameras or cars, numbers mean things as well as the experience.

No, it would be like people buying an Apple-made automobile that tells you how quickly it will go 0-60, but doesn't provide horsepower and torque figures. And if you already know how quickly it goes 0-60, why would you care? The figures are meaningless on their own.

Not a perfect analogy, since Apple hasn't exactly shown us that the new device will keep ten Safari tabs open at once without kicking them out of memory, but certainly more accurate than your 'mileage' gab.

 

[Coukos34]

You guys need to calm down a bit, especially when we all know it has 512. I'd guarantee it.

 

[Carouser]

if you don't know the various little issues 256MB of ram has caused the current ipad then you've clearly not 'done your homework'...

I don't need to know what the RAM spec currently is to make a purchase decision, I need to know if those problems have been solved. Do you get the difference? What if 512 MB still isn't enough? Then what? What good did it do me to know?

To find out if Apple improved the product (for the nth time) I use the device, I don't lean on the spec sheet. I really don't think you understand what I'm saying, as demonstrated by the following:

just because grandma and grandpa are satisfied with basic functionality and don't care about those "pesky useless numbers" doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't.

Look how you used quotation marks to suggest I said something I didn't. You don't address anything I've written at all.

No, it would be like people buying an Apple-made automobile that tells you how quickly it will go 0-60, but doesn't provide horsepower and torque figures. And if you already know how quickly it goes 0-60, why would you care? The figures are meaningless on their own.

Bingo.

 

[Yaboze]

Your example is better.

My point is that numbers do mean something to people more than this guy gives credit for. Not everyone just believes what the manufacturer says because not every App will be the same.

Future proofing.

The other thing to think about is this. Are you going to buy an iPad each year? I will tell you how many people felt left out of the multitasking and other features of iOS 4.0 that had older iPhones.

So when iOS 5.0 comes out this summer and the iPads, both of them have 256 MB and the iPhone 4 already has 512MB and the new iPhone will have at least that, how will they feel when it runs poorly?

The iPhone 3G is already cut from the next revision due next week.

Apple updated the iPhone 4 to 512MB for a reason.

 

[Carouser]

My point is that numbers do mean something to people more than this guy gives credit for. Not everyone just believes what the manufacturer says because not every App will be the same.

Who ever said anything about believing what the manufacturer says? I said no such thing. Go find it in my posts, have a look, instead of making it up. Not to mention I already know that numbers mean something to people, but at the end of the day, they only mean something if they definitely translate into user experience, so you still have to get your arse off the couch and go use the iPad to know if 512MB or whatever else is actually enough.

 

[outz]

I don't need to know what the RAM spec currently is to make a purchase decision, I need to know if those problems have been solved. Do you get the difference? What if 512 MB still isn't enough? Then what? What good did it do me to know?

To find out if Apple improved the product (for the nth time) I use the device, I don't lean on the spec sheet. I really don't think you understand what I'm saying, as demonstrated by the following:



Look how you used quotation marks to suggest I said something I didn't. You don't address anything I've written at all.

i'm pretty sure everyone here understands that you are willing to buy whatever shiny product apple puts out as long as it functions in the store for the 20 minutes a sales guy is pushing it on you. some of us like to learn as much about the internals as possible before making a decision.

it's quite funny you have such difficulty understanding why. its ok, people like you are actually good for the economy.

 

[Carouser]

i'm pretty sure everyone here understands that you are willing to buy whatever shiny product apple puts out as long as it functions in the store for the 20 minutes a sales guy is pushing it on you. some of us like to learn as much about the internals as possible before making a decision.

I'm not surprised outz missed the part where I said 'doing my homework includes . . . '. which means I make my decision based on other things too.

Maybe he could answer the following questions:
If it has 512 MB RAM but runs slow would you buy it?
If if has 256 MB RAM but runs very fast would you buy it?
Would you buy it in any case without trying it out first?

 

[kazaam93]

Kane. the iPad2 is just a hair shorter than the original along with the thickness being reduced by a 1/3 and a rear facing camera we are in the process creating a new case. Plain and simple the iPad2 will not work with our original case. Hope that helps.

Steve
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