Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Is there really any point to increasing the pixel density of the iPad?

I have fairly good eyesight, and at a normal viewing distance (about two feet) I CAN'T SEE the pixels on my iPad 4. What's the point increasing density, creating more pixels that the GPU has to push (slowing things down) at this point?

Even with the iPad closer to my face I can barely see the pixels, and only if I really look for them. Text looks like a printed page. Images look like photographic prints. The current PPI is more than enough.

Because... If they slow it down, then they will be able to speed it up later and make you upgrade.
 
I thought the whole point of "Retina" was getting to the point where adding more pixels becomes invisible.
 
A 24% increase in pixel density for a 9.7 inch screen means a resolution of 2560 x 1920, 4.9 megapixels.

A 30% increase assuming a 4:3 aspect ratio places it at about 2660 pixels x 1995 pixels. Which is an odd resolution.

While a 40% increase means a resolution of 2880 x 2160 pixels. Kind of like a Retina MacBook Pro. Also it's 371 ppi, 6.2 megapixels.

I won't be surprised if in the future we get 6 megapixel iPads, to watch 4K content.
 
Is there really any point to increasing the pixel density of the iPad?

I have fairly good eyesight, and at a normal viewing distance (about two feet) I CAN'T SEE the pixels on my iPad 4. What's the point increasing density, creating more pixels that the GPU has to push (slowing things down) at this point?

Even with the iPad closer to my face I can barely see the pixels, and only if I really look for them. Text looks like a printed page. Images look like photographic prints. The current PPI is more than enough.

I'm not going to argue your point because I basically agree. But if they do it, RetinaPlus (you heard it here first!) will sell like hot cakes, and everyone here who upgrades will sing the praises of its overkill pixel density, while calling the previous models a joke.

The iPod was a "joke".
Apple stores were "doomed".
The iPhone would fail.
The iPad was just a big iPod Touch; who would want that?
There will be no iPad Mini "guaranteed".

Just some of the many predictions by our esteemed community of experts.
 
I thought the whole point of "Retina" was getting to the point where adding more pixels becomes invisible.

At an average normal viewing distance (12-18 inches). Pixels are still quite visible if you are using your iOS device while in bed when its much closer to your face.
 
This just doesn't make sense, Apple shouldn't follow Samsung and others who just put features for the sake of it. Its pixel density is already high enough that eye can't make out at normal viewing distances. A new resolution would add nothing and makes the fragmentation worse.
 
This site should be called AnalystRumors. Seriously. Nothing they say is ever credible.

Kuo has been reliable.

arn

I would add someone with good connections within the Asian display suppliers probably wouldn't have too much difficulty finding out the display sizes being tested on Apple's request because they have to be tested well ahead of mass production and there are many involved in the process outside Apple's direct control. Not to mention I suspect some suppliers probably leak information to the analysts to boost their stock prices. I've seen a few leaks from Asian forums regarding displays and the ones heavily vetted by the posters were usually dead on.

There are things you cannot trust analysts with but predicting future display types is one thing I'd at least put some credence in someone like Kuo.

Complete ********.

If Apple introduced iPad screens with a non-linear (i.e. non-double) pixel count, it would be for a different sized iPad.

Otherwise, app developers would have to develop two different screen sizes for the same size iPad ? Never going to happen.

-t

Interestingly we saw the same rumor floating around for the iPhone 6 for a while now too. Between now and then, with the help of iOS7, we'll finally see Apple widening the display sizes. But then again they've already done with the iPhone 5 to an extent.
 
This just doesn't make sense, Apple shouldn't follow Samsung and others who just put features for the sake of it. Its pixel density is already high enough that eye can't make out at normal viewing distances. A new resolution would add nothing and makes the fragmentation worse.

When you can't innovate, you just bump up specs.
 
If Apple did this, they would essentially be admitting the whole "retina" sales pitch was a big fat lie. I don't buy this rumor at all, it makes no sense. 2048x1536 is already an excellent resolution for the screen size, I don't see the point to it.

I can, however, see uses for an iPad in a 12"-15" form. Yes, you lose on portability, however it would still be smaller and thinner than a laptop and open up new applications for which the current iPads may be a bit small and limiting, for example kiosks (airport, etc.), digital cash registers, menu boards, sports (imagine watching a game with tons of interactive stats available), and control surfaces for everything from music, video, and lighting production to aircraft instruments or power plant control. Such things are venturing a little out of Apple's mass-market consumer focus, but there could be a market there. Large iPads like this would be awkward to hold though, more like a standard panel you could mount in a variety of places.
 
Doesnt make sense why would apple increase the resolution without changing the screen or the ratioto 16:9 so it would align with the 4" inch iphone.
 
This is the real explanation for greater pixel density:

I'd like to see Apple using the extra pixel density to finally add camera pixels in to the display. It makes sense on so many levels:

1. You can make eye contact while video-calling people
2. It could be used to support non-capacitive input devices like pens or paintbrushes
3. It gets rid of the front-facing camera hole, allowing for sleeker devices and less bezel
 
A 12inch iPad makes no sense. The screen would be much to big for something you're supposed to hold with one hand.

You know what DOES make sense? Combining the 12inch touch screen with this rumor.

What does that give us? The first Macbook with at touch screen. Now THAT makes more sense.
 
This site should be called Kuorumors...

every article seems to begin with or end with:

"Kuo has generally been quite accurate with his predictions over the past several years, including accurately outlining many of the details of Apple's..."
 
This seems unlikely, though a 50% increase might make some amount of sense.
The problem is that the way Apple renders things, it would be best to double the resolution, but that seems further away than 2014.

3072x2304 is the resolution the "retina" iPad should have been: at 400 PPI you're actually approaching true retina resolution on a display that size. Pixels are obvious on my iPad 3 especially with non-English characters.

This is effectively a 3x retina display, and while it would not be ideal, there's enough resolution now where current 2x apps would look acceptable. Developers should be creating all their assets as vectors or very high resolution images now anyway, so updating to 3x should not be that much work.

Of course I would not object to a 4x retina display approaching 550 PPI, and we do have prototype displays with that resolution today. It seems like that would be at the point where the resolution is beyond the limits of human vision and an unnecessary drain on hardware. (GPU/battery)
 
Apple is beating itself to death. The tech industry and Wall Street want $200 plastic tablets so that Chinese peasants can afford them. Apple is already losing tablet market share faster than a stuck pig loses blood. Everyone is sure that Amazon is going to sell more new Kindle Fires for the holidays than Apple will sell iPads. Why? Because Kindle Fires cost almost half the price of iPads. Wall Street is betting against Apple every quarter to lose more sales to cheap Android tablets. Investors are dumping Apple stock and putting all their money on Amazon. Increased pixel count isn't going to help Apple sell more iPads. It'll probably just eat into profit margins a little more and Apple will get downgraded again just for that reason.

Analysts say consumers aren't looking for high-quality products anymore. They're much happier buying plastic Android smartphones and tablets and that's why Apple's revenue continues to drop. Apple really has some great goals for consumer products, but it no longer seems to matter to anyone. In fact, most of the industry hates Apple for chasing after high-quality instead of low prices. Mac computer sales have dropped and iPad sales have dropped so consumers seem to be giving up on Apple products. It looks like there's more sad days ahead in Cupertino.
 
I don't even think the human eye could perceive a difference. Apple needs to focus on specs that really matter...

Better image is never a bad thing however it will get to a point where no one will be able to see pixels even at an inch away. Once they hit that they will likely focus on other things. If we got to the point of 1000ppi vs 5000ppi, it would work with a huge display yet be kind of lost an iPad.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.