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After using a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 as my primary tablet for the past 2 years, I’m back to a full-size iPad. During that time I used my iPad Mini 5 as an e-reader and digital notebook. (The 3 years in the thread title refers to the 6th gen iPad that was my last full-size iPad)

Why now?
For many reasons, I’m a big fan of the “classic” iPad form-factor. The little-birdie that I rely on for Apple tech, lead me to believe that the 9th gen iPad would be the last iPad to sport the “classic” form-factor.
Given the chronic short supply (in my local area) of base iPads, I knew should Apple announce a 10th gen base model that used the Air form-factor, that the 9th gen would disappear forever locally.

I’ve never regretting a device “too early” but there have been plenty of occasions where I regretted one “too late”. So I thought better too early... 64GB in Space Gray.

My Samsung Tab S6 Experience was great but...

...the 16:10 aspect ratio continues to feel awkward to me for a tablet.
It was fine when using the bookcover keyboard, but as a hand-held tablet and writing with the S-Pen, it felt too tall and too narrow in portrait mode. Reading scans of vintage magazines and catalogs was awkward because of the aspect ratio.

...the cover and keyboard options were too limited. When I bought the Tab S6, I also purchased the OEM bookcover ($15) and bookcover keyboard ($45). The bookcover is a folio, which I usually don’t care for, but because the S-Pen attaches to the back, the folio protected and secured the S-Pen. That was an acceptable compromise.

The bookcover keyboard initially showed a lot of promise. But the design flaw for how it attached to the back of the tablet made it a near-permanent option. I managed to gently modify it so that I could attach and remove it at will and be confident that when attached, it was firmly attached.

But the bookcover keyboard added significant bulk and weight to the tablet. But that was really the only viable option for keyboard case. (3rd party alternatives were far worse... and neither Zagg nor Logitech produced one for it)

...Pen-optimized apps are still lacking. I had become spoiled by the quantity of quality pen-optimized apps on iOS/iPad OS. There’s nothing quite like GoodNotes and Notability on Android. Sure, Squid and Xodo do the best they can, but they’re not in the same league.

Things I’ll miss by returning to the iPad...
  • DeX (a desktop experience on Android is quite excellent)
  • True dual display support. Having such a small device be able to drive a 2nd display at full native resolution and a true 2nd display (not a mirror of the primary display) is more useful than I realized.
  • A fully accessible system-wide filesystem. The ability to directly interact with files with multiple apps allowed me to have workflows that offered a more streamlined user experience.
  • Full support for USB peripherals. Although the need for this has waned over time, it is still very useful. Things like being able to use my wireless presentation remote control (USB dongle) to control PowerPoint or Slides while displaying the presentation on the 2nd display is something that I’ll definitely miss.
  • Micro SD card support. It was terrific to be able to swap cards at will. Being able to swap in the card from my DJI Osmo Action to view and edit files was very handy.

Great things about returning to the iPad...
..the 4:3 Aspect Ratio.
Try as I might to get accustomed to 16:10 and 16:9 devices, 4:3 is it for me. I don’t watch a lot of videos on my portable devices, but when I do, they’re usually in Academy Ratio (near identical to 4:3). The more modern stuff is usually wider than 16:9 so letterbox or pillarbox bars are almost always present on those wider aspect ratio devices.

...smartcovers and smart keyboard covers! For me, the tablet user experience can be made or broken by the covers and cases available. I’m careful with my devices so I don’t need anywhere near Otterbox-level protection. The thinnest and lightest possible are my requirements.

I just need a clear skin on the back to protect against scratches and improve grip a little and something thin and light to cover the screen. Smartcovers are terrific. And because the 9th gen uses the same smartcovers as the 7th and 8th gen iPads, prices for new OEM Apple smartcovers are dirt cheap. I’ve picked up a few in different colors for $10 each new.

I’ve been a big fan of the smart keyboard cover ever since I first owned one for my 12.9 iPad Pro so many years ago. The smart keyboard cover for the 9th gen just arrived this morning and wow... I had forgotten just how much I love this keyboard. For portability and convenience it can’t be beat... basically it’s a smartcover with Logitech keys-to-go keyboard with more pronounced keys. Super thin and light.

...Pen-optimized apps. It’s great to be back using GoodNotes and PDF Expert. Apple Notes was a pleasant surprise in how much it had been updated. Although I have been using my Mini 5 (with Apple Pencil and 3rd party active pens that don’t require syncing), I stopped using Notes since my primary tablet was Android.

...iPad OS 15. The advancements made with widgets and multitasking help make the transition back to iPad OS easier. These few little enhancements help personalize it a bit more. Obviously nowhere near the level of Android, but enough to improve the experience.

...the iPad hardware. I know that it still has a non-laminated screen, but when I compare the 9th gen to the 6th gen (which I still have), it seems like the air gap is less on the 9th gen. The screen looks great. Performance is great. Ever since the release of the 6th gen base iPad I have maintained that it is the tech bargain of all of Apple’s devices. The 9th gen proves that even more IMO.

...more to explore! I love to tinker and I’m looking forward to discovering new things about using the 9th gen iPad with iPad OS 15.

Here's the clear skin of the "Jupiter 2" (I theme all of my devices so that I can tell them apart) 😂
Jupiter2-1.png

Here it is with the smart keyboard cover and lockscreen....
Jupiter2-2.png

...and finally the homescreen. I have a lot more customization I need to do.
Jupiter2-3.png
 
After using a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 as my primary tablet for the past 2 years, I’m back to a full-size iPad. During that time I used my iPad Mini 5 as an e-reader and digital notebook. (The 3 years in the thread title refers to the 6th gen iPad that was my last full-size iPad)

Why now?
For many reasons, I’m a big fan of the “classic” iPad form-factor. The little-birdie that I rely on for Apple tech, lead me to believe that the 9th gen iPad would be the last iPad to sport the “classic” form-factor.
Given the chronic short supply (in my local area) of base iPads, I knew should Apple announce a 10th gen base model that used the Air form-factor, that the 9th gen would disappear forever locally.

I’ve never regretting a device “too early” but there have been plenty of occasions where I regretted one “too late”. So I thought better too early... 64GB in Space Gray.

My Samsung Tab S6 Experience was great but...

...the 16:10 aspect ratio continues to feel awkward to me for a tablet.
It was fine when using the bookcover keyboard, but as a hand-held tablet and writing with the S-Pen, it felt too tall and too narrow in portrait mode. Reading scans of vintage magazines and catalogs was awkward because of the aspect ratio.

...the cover and keyboard options were too limited. When I bought the Tab S6, I also purchased the OEM bookcover ($15) and bookcover keyboard ($45). The bookcover is a folio, which I usually don’t care for, but because the S-Pen attaches to the back, the folio protected and secured the S-Pen. That was an acceptable compromise.

The bookcover keyboard initially showed a lot of promise. But the design flaw for how it attached to the back of the tablet made it a near-permanent option. I managed to gently modify it so that I could attach and remove it at will and be confident that when attached, it was firmly attached.

But the bookcover keyboard added significant bulk and weight to the tablet. But that was really the only viable option for keyboard case. (3rd party alternatives were far worse... and neither Zagg nor Logitech produced one for it)

...Pen-optimized apps are still lacking. I had become spoiled by the quantity of quality pen-optimized apps on iOS/iPad OS. There’s nothing quite like GoodNotes and Notability on Android. Sure, Squid and Xodo do the best they can, but they’re not in the same league.

Things I’ll miss by returning to the iPad...
  • DeX (a desktop experience on Android is quite excellent)
  • True dual display support. Having such a small device be able to drive a 2nd display at full native resolution and a true 2nd display (not a mirror of the primary display) is more useful than I realized.
  • A fully accessible system-wide filesystem. The ability to directly interact with files with multiple apps allowed me to have workflows that offered a more streamlined user experience.
  • Full support for USB peripherals. Although the need for this has waned over time, it is still very useful. Things like being able to use my wireless presentation remote control (USB dongle) to control PowerPoint or Slides while displaying the presentation on the 2nd display is something that I’ll definitely miss.
  • Micro SD card support. It was terrific to be able to swap cards at will. Being able to swap in the card from my DJI Osmo Action to view and edit files was very handy.

Great things about returning to the iPad...
..the 4:3 Aspect Ratio.
Try as I might to get accustomed to 16:10 and 16:9 devices, 4:3 is it for me. I don’t watch a lot of videos on my portable devices, but when I do, they’re usually in Academy Ratio (near identical to 4:3). The more modern stuff is usually wider than 16:9 so letterbox or pillarbox bars are almost always present on those wider aspect ratio devices.

...smartcovers and smart keyboard covers! For me, the tablet user experience can be made or broken by the covers and cases available. I’m careful with my devices so I don’t need anywhere near Otterbox-level protection. The thinnest and lightest possible are my requirements.

I just need a clear skin on the back to protect against scratches and improve grip a little and something thin and light to cover the screen. Smartcovers are terrific. And because the 9th gen uses the same smartcovers as the 7th and 8th gen iPads, prices for new OEM Apple smartcovers are dirt cheap. I’ve picked up a few in different colors for $10 each new.

I’ve been a big fan of the smart keyboard cover ever since I first owned one for my 12.9 iPad Pro so many years ago. The smart keyboard cover for the 9th gen just arrived this morning and wow... I had forgotten just how much I love this keyboard. For portability and convenience it can’t be beat... basically it’s a smartcover with Logitech keys-to-go keyboard with more pronounced keys. Super thin and light.

...Pen-optimized apps. It’s great to be back using GoodNotes and PDF Expert. Apple Notes was a pleasant surprise in how much it had been updated. Although I have been using my Mini 5 (with Apple Pencil and 3rd party active pens that don’t require syncing), I stopped using Notes since my primary tablet was Android.

...iPad OS 15. The advancements made with widgets and multitasking help make the transition back to iPad OS easier. These few little enhancements help personalize it a bit more. Obviously nowhere near the level of Android, but enough to improve the experience.

...the iPad hardware. I know that it still has a non-laminated screen, but when I compare the 9th gen to the 6th gen (which I still have), it seems like the air gap is less on the 9th gen. The screen looks great. Performance is great. Ever since the release of the 6th gen base iPad I have maintained that it is the tech bargain of all of Apple’s devices. The 9th gen proves that even more IMO.

...more to explore! I love to tinker and I’m looking forward to discovering new things about using the 9th gen iPad with iPad OS 15.

Here's the clear skin of the "Jupiter 2" (I theme all of my devices so that I can tell them apart) ?
View attachment 2011369

Here it is with the smart keyboard cover and lockscreen....
View attachment 2011370

...and finally the homescreen. I have a lot more customization I need to do.
View attachment 2011371

It seems your slow but determined escape or withdrawal from Apple has hit a couple of snags...your not too long ago purchase of the iPhone SE and now this new iPad. I hope you have not been hypnotized by the praying hands of Cook. :oops:
 
Coming from a multitude of Android tablets - I still have 6 of them - the change in aspect ratio in coming to the iPad was jarring. Now I'm the other way - the aspect ratio of my Surface Pro 7 in tablet mode doesn't feel right.
 
Coming from a multitude of Android tablets - I still have 6 of them - the change in aspect ratio in coming to the iPad was jarring. Now I'm the other way - the aspect ratio of my Surface Pro 7 in tablet mode doesn't feel right.

Interesting.

Isn’t the Surface Pro 3:2? I kinda felt that was a decent compromise between 4:3 and 16:9.
 
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Interesting.

Isn’t the Surface Pro 3:2? I kinda felt that was a decent compromise between 4:3 and 16:9.

Yes, it is 3:2 and is a nice compromise but I'm so used to the 4:3 of the 12.9 that it just feels a little off, most particularly when I use the Android Kindle app on it in tablet mode.
 
I always love reading your posts about your tech journeys. I only wish I could find a setup I truly love and stick with it.
Thanks! The fact that I have so many tech journeys is because I too can't find a setup that fully suits my needs. The struggle is real. ? I'm thankful that these excursions are always on-the-cheap.
 
no home bar too lol.

what's it like for reading on?
It's surprisingly good to read on... even considering the non-laminated screen. I plan to continue to use my iPad Mini 5 as an e-reader, but I prefer to use this larger iPad to read scanned catalogs, magazines, and comics.
 

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It's surprisingly good to read on... even considering the non-laminated screen. I plan to continue to use my iPad Mini 5 as an e-reader, but I prefer to use this larger iPad to read scanned catalogs, magazines, and comics.
Was actually thinking this iPad yesterday, I just sold a M1 12.9" and I tried a mini 6 and didn't like it.
 
Thanks! The fact that I have so many tech journeys is because I too can't find a setup that fully suits my needs. The struggle is real. ? I'm thankful that these excursions are always on-the-cheap.

Another question - do you really think the base pad will go the way of Air? If so, do you think they can keep the price point down? I need to update some 6th gens for a couple of the grandkids, and I’d hold out til the 10th gen if the pricing was gonna be similar, but if not, I need to grab up some 9th gens.
 
Thanks! The fact that I have so many tech journeys is because I too can't find a setup that fully suits my needs. The struggle is real. ? I'm thankful that these excursions are always on-the-cheap.

Lol, this is why I don't bother finding an all-in-one solution. A complete toolbox suits my needs better. It also helps ensure I always have something I can use even when it's not the most ideal. ???
 
Another question - do you really think the base pad will go the way of Air? If so, do you think they can keep the price point down? I need to update some 6th gens for a couple of the grandkids, and I’d hold out til the 10th gen if the pricing was gonna be similar, but if not, I need to grab up some 9th gens.

Well, 2018-2021 iPad Pro and 2020-2022 iPad Air buyers already paid for most of the design changes (new chassis, new TouchID button, etc).

That said, it's always possible they might bump up the price of the regular iPad by, say, $30-50.
 
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Well, 2018-2021 iPad Pro and 2020-2022 iPad Air buyers already paid for most of the design changes (new chassis, new TouchID button, etc).

That said, it's always possible they might bump up the price of the regular iPad by, say, $30-50.
That's where I believe things are going.

Another question - do you really think the base pad will go the way of Air? If so, do you think they can keep the price point down? I need to update some 6th gens for a couple of the grandkids, and I’d hold out til the 10th gen if the pricing was gonna be similar, but if not, I need to grab up some 9th gens.
Yes. As @rui no onna mentioned, it's possible for Apple to move the base to the Air and with it, a $30-50 increase.

But please don't make any purchase decisions based on MY hunch. If you can find some 9th gens on sale then it could be worth getting them. If you don't need those accessories that are unique to the 9th gen then you can wait things out. And if you're willing to buy iPads online, then even if the 10th gen is Air-like and you want the 9th gen, you should still be able to find the 9th gens online.
 
But please don't make any purchase decisions based on MY hunch. If you can find some 9th gens on sale then it could be worth getting them. If you don't need those accessories that are unique to the 9th gen then you can wait things out. And if you're willing to buy iPads online, then even if the 10th gen is Air-like and you want the 9th gen, you should still be able to find the 9th gens online.

Lol, I'm still hoping the 10th gens retain the older chassis but get bumped up to A13/A14+6GB or something.

My mom is hesitant to switch to the new designs so as a stop-gap for her aging Pro 9.7, I gave her my Air 3 (A12/3GB, 256GB LTE). Not much point to spending ~$600 for the 9th gen over the existing Air 3. The performance gap between A12 and A13 isn't much. I'm really hoping we get one more year of home button with improved performance.
 
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Was actually thinking this iPad yesterday, I just sold a M1 12.9" and I tried a mini 6 and didn't like it.
The only reason to spend more on the iPad Air is for USB-C and the Pencil 2. If those don’t matter to you get the cheap one.
 
The only reason to spend more on the iPad Air is for USB-C and the Pencil 2. If those don’t matter to you get the cheap one.
Never used a pencil and the only USB-C device I have is a kindle.
Not sure about the old home button though.
 
I really can't see them pushing the Air features downwards - there would be no way to maintain the price differentials for three tiers of device. Unless they plan to cancel the Air price tier - and what are the chances of that!

The entry level iPad should be thought of as the iPad SE - great classic reliable design with very nice internals. Personally I love the Touch ID button and far prefer it to Face ID, although both would be nice, and I like the implementation on the Air and iPad mini very much.
 
After using a Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 as my primary tablet for the past 2 years, I’m back to a full-size iPad. During that time I used my iPad Mini 5 as an e-reader and digital notebook. (The 3 years in the thread title refers to the 6th gen iPad that was my last full-size iPad)

Why now?
For many reasons, I’m a big fan of the “classic” iPad form-factor. The little-birdie that I rely on for Apple tech, lead me to believe that the 9th gen iPad would be the last iPad to sport the “classic” form-factor.
Given the chronic short supply (in my local area) of base iPads, I knew should Apple announce a 10th gen base model that used the Air form-factor, that the 9th gen would disappear forever locally.

I’ve never regretting a device “too early” but there have been plenty of occasions where I regretted one “too late”. So I thought better too early... 64GB in Space Gray.

My Samsung Tab S6 Experience was great but...

...the 16:10 aspect ratio continues to feel awkward to me for a tablet.
It was fine when using the bookcover keyboard, but as a hand-held tablet and writing with the S-Pen, it felt too tall and too narrow in portrait mode. Reading scans of vintage magazines and catalogs was awkward because of the aspect ratio.

...the cover and keyboard options were too limited. When I bought the Tab S6, I also purchased the OEM bookcover ($15) and bookcover keyboard ($45). The bookcover is a folio, which I usually don’t care for, but because the S-Pen attaches to the back, the folio protected and secured the S-Pen. That was an acceptable compromise.

The bookcover keyboard initially showed a lot of promise. But the design flaw for how it attached to the back of the tablet made it a near-permanent option. I managed to gently modify it so that I could attach and remove it at will and be confident that when attached, it was firmly attached.

But the bookcover keyboard added significant bulk and weight to the tablet. But that was really the only viable option for keyboard case. (3rd party alternatives were far worse... and neither Zagg nor Logitech produced one for it)

...Pen-optimized apps are still lacking. I had become spoiled by the quantity of quality pen-optimized apps on iOS/iPad OS. There’s nothing quite like GoodNotes and Notability on Android. Sure, Squid and Xodo do the best they can, but they’re not in the same league.

Things I’ll miss by returning to the iPad...
  • DeX (a desktop experience on Android is quite excellent)
  • True dual display support. Having such a small device be able to drive a 2nd display at full native resolution and a true 2nd display (not a mirror of the primary display) is more useful than I realized.
  • A fully accessible system-wide filesystem. The ability to directly interact with files with multiple apps allowed me to have workflows that offered a more streamlined user experience.
  • Full support for USB peripherals. Although the need for this has waned over time, it is still very useful. Things like being able to use my wireless presentation remote control (USB dongle) to control PowerPoint or Slides while displaying the presentation on the 2nd display is something that I’ll definitely miss.
  • Micro SD card support. It was terrific to be able to swap cards at will. Being able to swap in the card from my DJI Osmo Action to view and edit files was very handy.

Great things about returning to the iPad...
..the 4:3 Aspect Ratio.
Try as I might to get accustomed to 16:10 and 16:9 devices, 4:3 is it for me. I don’t watch a lot of videos on my portable devices, but when I do, they’re usually in Academy Ratio (near identical to 4:3). The more modern stuff is usually wider than 16:9 so letterbox or pillarbox bars are almost always present on those wider aspect ratio devices.

...smartcovers and smart keyboard covers! For me, the tablet user experience can be made or broken by the covers and cases available. I’m careful with my devices so I don’t need anywhere near Otterbox-level protection. The thinnest and lightest possible are my requirements.

I just need a clear skin on the back to protect against scratches and improve grip a little and something thin and light to cover the screen. Smartcovers are terrific. And because the 9th gen uses the same smartcovers as the 7th and 8th gen iPads, prices for new OEM Apple smartcovers are dirt cheap. I’ve picked up a few in different colors for $10 each new.

I’ve been a big fan of the smart keyboard cover ever since I first owned one for my 12.9 iPad Pro so many years ago. The smart keyboard cover for the 9th gen just arrived this morning and wow... I had forgotten just how much I love this keyboard. For portability and convenience it can’t be beat... basically it’s a smartcover with Logitech keys-to-go keyboard with more pronounced keys. Super thin and light.

...Pen-optimized apps. It’s great to be back using GoodNotes and PDF Expert. Apple Notes was a pleasant surprise in how much it had been updated. Although I have been using my Mini 5 (with Apple Pencil and 3rd party active pens that don’t require syncing), I stopped using Notes since my primary tablet was Android.

...iPad OS 15. The advancements made with widgets and multitasking help make the transition back to iPad OS easier. These few little enhancements help personalize it a bit more. Obviously nowhere near the level of Android, but enough to improve the experience.

...the iPad hardware. I know that it still has a non-laminated screen, but when I compare the 9th gen to the 6th gen (which I still have), it seems like the air gap is less on the 9th gen. The screen looks great. Performance is great. Ever since the release of the 6th gen base iPad I have maintained that it is the tech bargain of all of Apple’s devices. The 9th gen proves that even more IMO.

...more to explore! I love to tinker and I’m looking forward to discovering new things about using the 9th gen iPad with iPad OS 15.

Here's the clear skin of the "Jupiter 2" (I theme all of my devices so that I can tell them apart) 😂
View attachment 2011369

Here it is with the smart keyboard cover and lockscreen....
View attachment 2011370

...and finally the homescreen. I have a lot more customization I need to do.
View attachment 2011371
“Welcome back,” so to speak. I had a similar journey trying different tablets, detachables and 2-in-1s. I like that they technically check 2 boxes in 1, but ultimately, I prefer all things pen/note related on an iPad.
 
OP, I’d be interested to know: have you tried the Magic Keyboard keys and which do you prefer? I have an MK for my iPad Pro because I need the trackpad, but I love the feel of the fabric-covered keys of the Smart Keyboard.
 
OP, I’d be interested to know: have you tried the Magic Keyboard keys and which do you prefer? I have an MK for my iPad Pro because I need the trackpad, but I love the feel of the fabric-covered keys of the Smart Keyboard.
I know this was directed at OP, but I just wanted to mention my experience. I have the MK case for my M1 12.9 and I actually prefer using the SKF with a separate Magic Trackpad or mouse. When doing more serious work, I just turn it on and scroll away. When not needed, I leave it at home or in my bag and enjoy the lighter weight of the SKF.
 
OP, I’d be interested to know: have you tried the Magic Keyboard keys and which do you prefer? I have an MK for my iPad Pro because I need the trackpad, but I love the feel of the fabric-covered keys of the Smart Keyboard.
I have a magic keyboard for my iMac but I know that they're different than the MK for the iPad Pro. I've tested the MK for the iPad Pro in Costco but certainly not enough time to draw any serious conclusions.

But I really appreciate the feel and feedback of the smart keyboard over the MK's I've used. As a touch typist, I prefer less resistance to the keys. I'm baffled by all of the love for mechanical keyboards. I'm a software developer of 45 years and it was only in the past 10 years or so that I have had something other than mechanical keyboards.
 
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