iPad Air 1 and iOS 8.3 stuttering

curropb said:
I hope 8.4 improves the performance in Ipad Air 1, because after a year, it´s inexcusable the low Ipad 1 performance with IOS 8.3...
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It probably, won't as iOS 8 is and has been a DOG since it's release. Maybe Apple uses some of their billions and invest in iOS development to fix the bugs and smooth out performance. One can hope iOS 9 breaks the mold but with Ive running the show, don't bet on that either.
 
I've not used my iPad Air 1 for a month or so, been using the Mini. The Air was on iOS 8.1.3 i saw this thread so i thought i would update to iOS 8.3 and see what happens. For me its just a smooth as it was on 8.1.3, and not like in the Video. So I'm still on the fence as to if its iOS 8.3 or the iPad Air 1 at fault.
 
OP, I gave you the answer in the first reply to your thread, and while glib, that post was your answer.

You spent much extra time and resources running around because Apple will never tell you "we purposely slowed down your iPad with our latest software update because our CEO is a bean-counter who only answers to the board of directors and shareholders, and secretly thinks end-users do not matter so go spend more money and buy an iPad Air 2"

In the Tim Cook era of Apple, one would be wise to not install a newer OS (iOS OR OS X) than the one that came with the device.

Small .point updates are fine, but major new releases seem to cripple even 1-2 year old hardware.

Seriously, Apple is taking advantage of the lack of "checks and balances" that exist in a company making both the hardware and the software. People are finally getting wise to this and this will bite Tim Cook in the @ss eventually.

P.s. My iPad Air (version 1) will live on 7.1.2 for the rest of its life, thanks Tim Cook.
 
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FatPuppy said:
Ok, just screenshot this conversation and let's wait till it is released.
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You can certainly do that, but whether or not that turns out to be the case still won't change that right now, at the moment when the statement was made, it's still nothing more than a guess/assumption since there's no actual information about iOS 9 that is really available.
 
doug in albq said:
OP, I gave you the answer in the first reply to your thread, and while glib, that post was your answer.

You spent much extra time and resources running around because Apple will never tell you "we purposely slowed down your iPad with our latest software update because our CEO is a bean-counter who only answers to the board of directors and shareholders, and secretly thinks end-users do not matter so go spend more money and buy an iPad Air 2"

In the Tim Cook era of Apple, one would be wise to not install a newer OS (iOS OR OS X) than the one that came with the device.

Small .point updates are fine, but major new releases seem to cripple even 1-2 year old hardware.

Seriously, Apple is taking advantage of the lack of "checks and balances" that exist in a company making both the hardware and the software. People are finally getting wise to this and this will bite Tim Cook in the @ss eventually.

P.s. My iPad Air (version 1) will live on 7.1.2 for the rest of its life, thanks Tim Cook.
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But..but aren't you worried about security threats from an old OS?

/sarc
 
I get stuttering and some wifi drop outs and constant safari web page reloads on my iPad Air since iOS 8.2

I guess this is the new Apple vision of Tim Cook to make everyone move on.
 
becneel said:
I get stuttering and some wifi drop outs and constant safari web page reloads on my iPad Air since iOS 8.2

I guess this is the new Apple vision of Tim Cook to make everyone move on.
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That has been the experience on my 64GB 6+ since day one.
 
becneel said:
I guess this is the new Apple vision of Tim Cook to make everyone move on.
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Well, Timmy did say people are hanging onto their iPad's much longer than he thought they would. That's one way of spurring sales.

Lesson learned, don't update. :p
 
XTheLancerX said:
Nah, that still stutters in portrait. control center and Notification Center stutter on lock screen, over open folder, over keyboard. Turning anything with a keyboard open is just bad. Turning spotlight or power off screen also stutter. Turning app store is bad too. There are many more areas but I don't want to describe ALL of them.

However, my iPad does not stutter just from flipping pages like that. Not sure what to say.
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I'm surprised that several people thumbed up your post, the thing is, I've just tried all of what you've said and I don't have any of that on my iPad Air (1).

I'm starting to think that the size of the iPad storage could make a difference. Some users on here told me it isn't the case, but we all know that flash storage becomes faster the bigger it is. I have the 128 GB version, it would be interesting to know what storage size other people have, and if they have any performance or lag issues?

I was thinking of buying a 5S to use with iOS 8. If I knew that smaller storage would make it lag, I wouldn't want to get a 16 GB one.
 
Jardins de Vin said:
I'm surprised that several people thumbed up your post, the thing is, I've just tried all of what you've said and I don't have any of that on my iPad Air (1).

I'm starting to think that the size of the iPad storage could make a difference. Some users on here told me it isn't the case, but we all know that flash storage becomes faster the bigger it is. I have the 128 GB version, it would be interesting to know what storage size other people have, and if they have any performance or lag issues?

I was thinking of buying a 5S to use with iOS 8. If I knew that smaller storage would make it lag, I wouldn't want to get a 16 GB one.
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I'm going to add to your observed list of people who say that isn't the case, because it isn't. It's shoddy software combined with underpowered iPad. Yes, the regular A7 is allegedly more powerful than the A6X, so the iPad Air and Mini 2/3 are improvements over the iPad 4. Even so, the GPU in the A7 just isn't enough to handle the constant Gaussian Blur filters at such a high resolution. Also, the 64 bit architecture has increased the size of instructions, causing less RAM to be available. And did I mention bad software?? That's the biggie here.

My friend has a 32GB Cellular iPad Air and it's the same in performance, if not worse. The large screen makes it easier to see frame drops, and it probably doesn't help that he has loads and loads of apps. My 16GB mini is pretty free on space.

To be honest, you are probably gifted with eyes that aren't that sensitive to frame drops, and that's why you "Dont have these problems". You're lucky, because you can live on without being bothered by these issues. Plus, if you take my snobbiness and pickiness into account when dealing with graphical things, you get vocal people like me.
 
Actually my eyes are very sensitive to all kinds of frame drops - I do get very slight ones on my iPad sometimes, but this is really very rare!

I could eventually make a video if I find some time. Make a list of what I should do and I'll film it.

I have a lot of stuff (effects etc.) turned off also, perhaps it makes a difference.
 
XTheLancerX said:
I'm going to add to your observed list of people who say that isn't the case, because it isn't. It's shoddy software combined with underpowered iPad. Yes, the regular A7 is allegedly more powerful than the A6X, so the iPad Air and Mini 2/3 are improvements over the iPad 4. Even so, the GPU in the A7 just isn't enough to handle the constant Gaussian Blur filters at such a high resolution. Also, the 64 bit architecture has increased the size of instructions, causing less RAM to be available. And did I mention bad software?? That's the biggie here.

My friend has a 32GB Cellular iPad Air and it's the same in performance, if not worse. The large screen makes it easier to see frame drops, and it probably doesn't help that he has loads and loads of apps. My 16GB mini is pretty free on space.

To be honest, you are probably gifted with eyes that aren't that sensitive to frame drops, and that's why you "Dont have these problems". You're lucky, because you can live on without being bothered by these issues. Plus, if you take my snobbiness and pickiness into account when dealing with graphical things, you get vocal people like me.
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The iPad Air 1 ran iOS 7 silky smooth on all animations. iOS 7 was even silky smooth on iPad 4.

iOS 8 is just poorly coded and optimized. Its that simple. There are no other explanations. Especially when iPhone 6 and 6+ also have animation issues and stutters.
 
jonnyb098 said:
The iPad Air 1 ran iOS 7 silky smooth on all animations. iOS 7 was even silky smooth on iPad 4.

iOS 8 is just poorly coded and optimized. Its that simple. There are no other explanations. Especially when iPhone 6 and 6+ also have animation issues and stutters.
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Yeah, I agree. Keep in mind, even iOS 7.1.2 was still by no means perfect, though. There was still stutter in turning a keyboard, there was that huge jump when sliding down spotlight quickly, control/Notification Center on lock screen stuttered, going into Siri was never 60FPS like on iPhone 5 or later. There's more, but you get the point. Pretty much the same jist as iOS 8, just everything was intensified and there are quite a few new ones. Basic app opening and especially closing has the occasional stutter, sliding down for spotlight is stuttery and has a jumpy keyboard, and now taping the Safari URL bar has a jumpy/stuttery keyboard. Split keyboard is horrendous in all ways in safari, fine everywhere else. Again, there's more but you get the point.
Jardins de Vin said:
Actually my eyes are very sensitive to all kinds of frame drops - I do get very slight ones on my iPad sometimes, but this is really very rare!

I could eventually make a video if I find some time. Make a list of what I should do and I'll film it.

I have a lot of stuff (effects etc.) turned off also, perhaps it makes a difference.
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Ahh that makes sense if you have reduce motion and/or increase contrast enabled. I'm talking on default settings, tons of stutter.
 
No I don't have it set to reduce motion or increase stutter. I have reduce white point set, and no movements on backgrounds. I thought it was useless. I could barely see a difference anyway, but knew it would use more battery life. So I turned it off.
 
Hello everyone,
I've got an iPad Air 3G 32gb with the same issues curropb described. After updating from iOS 7.1.2 to 8.3 my iPad suffers from lag and random stuttering while scrolling web pages on safari or simply scrolling my contact list. Even on the home screen as in the posted video.

I've read all the thread and I can see that there's no solution so far, and I seriously doubt that ios 8.4 will solve the issues. :(

These days I visited various Apple stores/official resellers and I did find the same problems on all the iPad Air 1. iPad Air 2 seems immune as well as iPad mini 1 whereas I found the same lag on iPad mini 2 and 3.

I've tried to restore as new, restore form a backup, disable and enable the white point, transparencies, motion, etc with no luck.

What I think is that our only hope is iOS 9..or get rid of our iPad Air as uncle Tim desires. (Ps: iOS 8.3 runs as smooth as silk on my iPhone 5S).
 
Jardins de Vin said:
I'm surprised that several people thumbed up your post, the thing is, I've just tried all of what you've said and I don't have any of that on my iPad Air (1).

I'm starting to think that the size of the iPad storage could make a difference. Some users on here told me it isn't the case, but we all know that flash storage becomes faster the bigger it is. I have the 128 GB version, it would be interesting to know what storage size other people have, and if they have any performance or lag issues?

I was thinking of buying a 5S to use with iOS 8. If I knew that smaller storage would make it lag, I wouldn't want to get a 16 GB one.
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I recall reading that Apple switched to slower flash storage (from MLC to TLC). Cheap and sounds like the decision of a certain bean counter.
 
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