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1BadManVan

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if I had one pet peeve about my 6th gen iPad it’s some of the graphics scaling in games, even when turning the graphics up, it looks like the resolution is scaled way down. Grid Autosport is a good example of it, even when turned onto the higher quality, it’s still looks very jagged and barely any better than performance mode. I would assume this is because the gpu of the A10 can’t keep up at full scale resolution.

Would this be something that’s improved going to the air 3 and the fairly significant jump in gpu performance of the a12? Looking pretty hard at the air 3 right now as the Smart Keyboard would be a welcome upgrade since my iPad is also my laptop. Also my first iPad and realize I’m using it even more than I thought I would and temped to bump up my specs a bit.

And no the pro really isn’t in the question between the cost of it and worried about how fragile it would be since mine spends most of it life being tossed into my work bag. I also use the LTE model which in canada is stupid expensive lol
 

tps3443

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if I had one pet peeve about my 6th gen iPad it’s some of the graphics scaling in games, even when turning the graphics up, it looks like the resolution is scaled way down. Grid Autosport is a good example of it, even when turned onto the higher quality, it’s still looks very jagged and barely any better than performance mode. I would assume this is because the gpu of the A10 can’t keep up at full scale resolution.

Would this be something that’s improved going to the air 3 and the fairly significant jump in gpu performance of the a12? Looking pretty hard at the air 3 right now as the Smart Keyboard would be a welcome upgrade since my iPad is also my laptop. Also my first iPad and realize I’m using it even more than I thought I would and temped to bump up my specs a bit.

And no the pro really isn’t in the question between the cost of it and worried about how fragile it would be since mine spends most of it life being tossed into my work bag. I also use the LTE model which in canada is stupid expensive lol

Have you downloaded and installed the HD Textures for GRID Motorsport?

I can see a pretty drastic difference from ultra performance, to high quality graphics settings, but the only real benefit for ultra performance mode is it allows the option to run at 100-120fps and it makes racing quite fun, but the graphics still look great.

When your racing at 120hz, and tilting to steer the car, it feels like there is zero latency and driving is much easier.

I know the air 3 doesn’t have 120hz, but that’s why I asked about the HD texture pack?

I own a iPad 6th gen, and a iPad Pro 11” and I’d be happy to share some comparisons to see if the graphics are rendered at the same level between these devices if you like?
 

1BadManVan

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Yea I have all the HD texture packs loaded, I know I’ve read before that certain games are scaled down on these iPads because the gpu can’t handle to run them at full res. I was wondering if they improved it on the iPad Air or only the pros got that boost. No ultra option on my 6th gen
 

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Yea I have all the HD texture packs loaded, I know I’ve read before that certain games are scaled down on these iPads because the gpu can’t handle to run them at full res. I was wondering if they improved it on the iPad Air or only the pros got that boost. No ultra option on my 6th gen

That’s a good question. It seems like the iPad Air 3 could handle this game at full detail. But then again, it doesn’t have that 120hz refresh rate like the 2nd and 3rd gen iPad Pro. So, it’s possible they put the air in the same category as the iPad 6th gen, and it simply looks the same.

Hopefully someone can chime in who owns a iPad Air 3.

You would assume full graphic fidelity with a A12 and 3GB of ram.
 
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1BadManVan

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That’s a good question. It seems like the iPad Air 3 could handle this game at full detail. But then again, it doesn’t have that 120hz refresh rate like the 2nd and 3rd gen iPad Pro. So, it’s possible they put the air in the same category as the iPad 6th gen, and it simply looks the same.

Hopefully someone can chime in who owns a iPad Air 3.

You would assume full graphic fidelity with a A12 and 3GB of ram.
You would think, wouldn’t be worth the upgrade if it’s hindered Like this model.

If the pros casing was a bit more durable I would be a bit more tempted to invest but I work for the railroad. This iPad gets stuffed in the front pouch of my bag getting on and off trains, I don’t trust the new design to get banged around a bit and be ok lol.

The 120hz on ultra settings sounds pretty nice but Canadians get raped on Apple prices . 256gb LTE 11” is $1400
 

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You would think, wouldn’t be worth the upgrade if it’s hindered Like this model.

If the pros casing was a bit more durable I would be a bit more tempted to invest but I work for the railroad. This iPad gets stuffed in the front pouch of my bag getting on and off trains, I don’t trust the new design to get banged around a bit and be ok lol.

The 120hz on ultra settings sounds pretty nice but Canadians get raped on Apple prices . 256gb LTE 11” is $1400

That’s terrible wow, yea another member has only briefly mentioned a little about the CAD pricing, had no idea it was that bad! Yea my 11” 1TB unlocked model was only about $1300 brand new, and sealed. Bought it on eBay though.

Maybe you should buy from the USA? Or is shipping to delayed?
 

1BadManVan

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That’s terrible wow, yea another member has only briefly mentioned a little about the CAD pricing, had no idea it was that bad! Yea my 11” 1TB unlocked model was only about $1300 brand new, and sealed. Bought it on eBay though.

Maybe you should buy from the USA? Or is shipping to delayed?
Canadian dollar sucks right now
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That’s terrible wow, yea another member has only briefly mentioned a little about the CAD pricing, had no idea it was that bad! Yea my 11” 1TB unlocked model was only about $1300 brand new, and sealed. Bought it on eBay though.

Maybe you should buy from the USA? Or is shipping to delayed?
1tb 11” unlocked is $2150 Canadian
 

Josieb1

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You would think, wouldn’t be worth the upgrade if it’s hindered Like this model.

If the pros casing was a bit more durable I would be a bit more tempted to invest but I work for the railroad. This iPad gets stuffed in the front pouch of my bag getting on and off trains, I don’t trust the new design to get banged around a bit and be ok lol.

The 120hz on ultra settings sounds pretty nice but Canadians get raped on Apple prices . 256gb LTE 11” is $1400

It’s far more expensive in the UK. That model is £1069.
 

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Yea I have all the HD texture packs loaded, I know I’ve read before that certain games are scaled down on these iPads because the gpu can’t handle to run them at full res. I was wondering if they improved it on the iPad Air or only the pros got that boost. No ultra option on my 6th gen

I own Grid and the new iPad Air. I have the HD textures installed but there is no Ultra setting in the graphics options. The only option is turn Battery Saver On/Off. Like someone else had mentioned, I believe the Ultra setting is reserved for the devices that can do 120hz. With that being said, Grid runs and looks amazing on the new iPad Air.
 

1BadManVan

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Get an iPad Pro 10.5 from openbox.ca.
They’re a good price right now.
No LTE models on there for the 10.5. LTE is a must because of where I go for work

Plus still not convinced to go that route with a fairly wide spread screen issue on them
 

rui no onna

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Nope, still full price here in Canada and the refurb store only selling the 512gb LTE models which are over $1k
Yeouch.

Hmm, here's a comparison of iPad 6th gen (3.1 million pixels) vs iPad Pro 10.5 (3.7MP) vs iPhone XS Max (3.3MP).

https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?be...&hwtype4=GPU&hwname4=Apple+Inc.+Apple+A12+GPU

Looks pretty promising for the Air 3. When I stop and think about it though, it does make sense. There are probably more iPhone gamers than there are iPad gamers. When the current flagship iPhone is also running A12 (at least until September) then it stands to reason A12 should perform pretty well for gaming.
 

1BadManVan

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Yeouch.

Hmm, here's a comparison of iPad 6th gen (3.1 million pixels) vs iPad Pro 10.5 (3.7MP) vs iPhone XS Max (3.3MP).

https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?be...&hwtype4=GPU&hwname4=Apple+Inc.+Apple+A12+GPU

Looks pretty promising for the Air 3. When I stop and think about it though, it does make sense. There are probably more iPhone gamers than there are iPad gamers. When the current flagship iPhone is also running A12 (at least until September) then it stands to reason A12 should perform pretty well for gaming.
Yea I just know the X series a chips definitely have a beefier gpu in them to help push that extra resolution as well

Oie, wish we had some better deals out here in Canada. Part of me wants to hold out to see if they release a next gen Pro later this year that’s free of bending and screen issues.

2017 pro has the white dot issues and the 2018 pro is a bit too fragile, especially the LTE models which is what I use
 

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Yea I just know the X series a chips definitely have a beefier gpu in them to help push that extra resolution as well

Oie, wish we had some better deals out here in Canada. Part of me wants to hold out to see if they release a next gen Pro later this year that’s free of bending and screen issues.

2017 pro has the white dot issues and the 2018 pro is a bit too fragile, especially the LTE models which is what I use

The iPad Pro 11” isn’t that fragile. Trust me, of all people, and the three 11” iPads I’ve owned. I was going in to this thinking my iPads were as tough as a piece of paper, and were going to just start bending right before my eyes. So I kept a close eye on them.

My first 11” 64gb unlocked cellular was straight and stayed that way.

My 2nd 11” 64gb unlocked cellular was used by my kids frequently, dropped a lot usually 3-4Ft, hit a lot, scratches lot. It never bent either.

My 3rd iPad 11” is the 1TB unlocked cellular model that I have now. I’ve had it for nearly 50 days. It is very straight just like the others, and the shape has not changed at all. I don’t let my kids touch it, not because I’m worried about if it bending. But, because they tear stuff up lol. Scratches, dings, cracks they have no care about anyone’s stuff lol.

Let me tell you, it was everything that I read online that made me think my iPad 11” models were super fragile, and they’ll bend automatically just by laying on a table lol. It’s all BS!

So, that super weary and cautious feeling has since faded. And I’ve realized the 11” iPads are about as strong as a normal iPad. Go drop either one on concrete and see what happens!
 
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1BadManVan

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The iPad Pro 11” isn’t that fragile. Trust me, of all people, and the three 11” iPads I’ve owned. I was going in to this thinking my iPads were as tough as a piece of paper, and were going to just start bending right before my eyes. So I kept a close eye on them.

My first 11” 64gb unlocked cellular was straight and stayed that way.

My 2nd 11” 64gb unlocked cellular was used by my kids frequently, dropped a lot usually 3-4Ft, hit a lot, scratches lot. It never bent either.

My 3rd iPad 11” is the 1TB unlocked cellular model that I have now. I’ve had it for nearly 50 days. It is very straight just like the others, and the shape has not changed at all. I don’t let my kids touch it, not because I’m worried about if it bending. But, because they tear stuff up lol. Scratches, dings, cracks they have no care about anyone’s stuff lol.

Let me tell you, it was everything that I read online that made me think my iPad 11” models were super fragile, and they’ll bend automatically just by laying on a table lol. It’s all BS!

So, that super weary and cautious feeling has since faded. And I’ve realized the 11” iPads are about as strong as a normal iPad. Go drop either one on concrete and see what happens!
And I hope that’s the case for 99% of users because I know I can be OCD so if I know there’s an issue, I’ll keep looking for it and drive myself crazy, got that from my mom lol.
 

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And I hope that’s the case for 99% of users because I know I can be OCD so if I know there’s an issue, I’ll keep looking for it and drive myself crazy, got that from my mom lol.

I’m the same way, one of the main reasons for getting the new one I have now. Was because my children had done irreversible cosmetic damage to my last one, and it bothered me on a daily basis..My wife didn’t understand, and she thought I was nuts. A huge, and very deep scratch on the screen, and some chips on the corners of it. I keep my 1TB iPad Pro in impeccable condition, and it’s been that way for nearly 2 months now. And it doesn’t do anything that I don’t want it to. Also, I’d recommend silver for long term use. And a glass screen protector, as of the 12.2 update has fixed the screen protector touch issues.
 
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1BadManVan

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I’m the same way, one of the main reasons for getting the new one I have now. Was because my children had done irreversible cosmetic damage to my last one, and it bothered me on a daily basis..My wife didn’t understand, and she thought I was nuts. A huge, and very deep scratch on the screen, and some chips on the corners of it. I keep my 1TB iPad Pro in impeccable condition, and it’s been that way for nearly 2 months now. And it doesn’t do anything that I don’t want it to. Also, I’d recommend silver for long term use. And a glass screen protector, as of the 12.2 update has fixed the screen protector touch issues.
I appreciate your input on it, and may reconsider a pro, a big investment for a tablet but my tablet IS my laptop. Part of me wants to wait to see what the next one brings since it’s a few months away but that can always be the case lol. Atleast I know this current gen is definitely future proofed with that processor and the 4gb of ram
 

rui no onna

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I appreciate your input on it, and may reconsider a pro, a big investment for a tablet but my tablet IS my laptop. Part of me wants to wait to see what the next one brings since it’s a few months away but that can always be the case lol. Atleast I know this current gen is definitely future proofed with that processor and the 4gb of ram
Given you're using the iPad for gaming, I think spending extra for the A12X is a good idea.
 

1BadManVan

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Given you're using the iPad for gaming, I think spending extra for the A12X is a good idea.
Yup all my gaming is mobile gaming, haven’t done console or pc gaming in a long time now. My phone is for shooter games like PUBG and the iPad is for movies, browsing and racing games.
 

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Yup all my gaming is mobile gaming, haven’t done console or pc gaming in a long time now. My phone is for shooter games like PUBG and the iPad is for movies, browsing and racing games.

I’ve never played mobile games before getting a iPad Pro 11”.. But since getting a iPad Pro, mobile gaming is awesome. It is the only console I have that I actually use frequently for gaming.

I play PUBG a lot, and I play at 120fps/120Hz and Antialiasing is on. It totally changed the way the game feels. It’s so smooth I feel like I’m cheating.

Definitely go with a iPad Pro for gaming. I just rip on people in PUBG lol. Run to a supply drop, and take out 8-10 people and walk away almost dead with the MK14 and fancy armor lol.
 

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Nope, still full price here in Canada and the refurb store only selling the 512gb LTE models which are over $1k
I bought the 64 GB iPad Pro 10.5” non-LTE model on the refurb store for CAD$619. (I don’t need LTE.)

The 64 GB models disappeared after a few days though.

BTW, “full price” decreased after the Air 3 launch.

Get an iPad Pro 10.5 from openbox.ca.
They’re a good price right now.
Do they have manufacturer’s warranty? Are they an authorized retailer? It’s important for credit card extended warranty.
 
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