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keatth

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iPhone 6 Design - really excited for this.
4GB Ram - game changer
Force Touch - like Apple watch
 

Teste

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Jan 8, 2011
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iPhone 6 Design - really excited for this.
4GB Ram - game changer
Force Touch - like Apple watch

Then you wake up and realize that the Air 3 will be just a slightly thinner, slightly faster iPad with a slightly better camera (but no flash, LOL!) :rolleyes:;):D
 

Abazigal

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Jul 18, 2011
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My guess is that Apple will ride out the 4b ram for at least 2 more years, given how many apps don't even come close to taxing 2gb of ram.
 

sonicrobby

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Apr 24, 2013
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IPad Air 6 will get the 4GB of Ram, while other tablets are gonna be at 16GB or pushing 32GB :(

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the iPad, but Apple has been falling short of (at least my) expectations for each update.
 

sanke1

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Nov 9, 2010
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IPad Air 6 will get the 4GB of Ram, while other tablets are gonna be at 16GB or pushing 32GB :(

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the iPad, but Apple has been falling short of (at least my) expectations for each update.

I disagree wholeheartedly.

iPad Air 2 has the fastest CPU GPU combination currently available. That is almost same or better than an Nvidia K1. 2 GB RAM is mainstream for ARM based tablets.

Next year's iPad Air 3 will most probably have higher res screen which will give it's upgraded GPU roughly the same power to render at it's native resolution as current iPad Air 2. In fact the A8X GPU is going to serve much longer than A5 found in iPad 2.
 

sonicrobby

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Apr 24, 2013
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I disagree wholeheartedly.

iPad Air 2 has the fastest CPU GPU combination currently available. That is almost same or better than an Nvidia K1. 2 GB RAM is mainstream for ARM based tablets.

Next year's iPad Air 3 will most probably have higher res screen which will give it's upgraded GPU roughly the same power to render at it's native resolution as current iPad Air 2. In fact the A8X GPU is going to serve much longer than A5 found in iPad 2.

I'm not saying the iPad updates aren't good. The update they provided with the air 2 is great. But looking at the timeline, other tablets have had 2GB of Ram for years. The reaction I got when the air 2 had more ram was "finally..." And not "wow!". Hence falling short of MY expectations. Youre making assumptions about next years ipad, and I will wait to see it before I coment on what you think it will have.
 

Ploki

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Jan 21, 2008
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IPad Air 6 will get the 4GB of Ram, while other tablets are gonna be at 16GB or pushing 32GB :(

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the iPad, but Apple has been falling short of (at least my) expectations for each update.

32gb? Until haswell you couldnt have that on quadcore laptops. Coupled with ssd storage... On A TABLET. Why stop at 32gb...

Completely over the top.
 

JPIndustrie

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Mar 12, 2008
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I'm not saying the iPad updates aren't good. The update they provided with the air 2 is great. But looking at the timeline, other tablets have had 2GB of Ram for years. The reaction I got when the air 2 had more ram was "finally..." And not "wow!". Hence falling short of MY expectations. Youre making assumptions about next years ipad, and I will wait to see it before I coment on what you think it will have.

Why does the number in the 'memory' column matter so much to you really?

Are you really worried about the products with bigger numbers?

I see you have plenty of :apple: gear, are you really having a hard time using them given the specs on those?
 

sonicrobby

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Apr 24, 2013
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Why does the number in the 'memory' column matter so much to you really?

Are you really worried about the products with bigger numbers?

I see you have plenty of :apple: gear, are you really having a hard time using them given the specs on those?

Logetivity. I understand apples business strategy is to put hardware that is good for now, that way they will ensure the sale of future products for the future. But it bothers me that they aren't as customer friendly when it comes to support of the product. Once 8.3 comes out with the rumored split screen multitasking, im waiting to see which iPads will be excluded and why. Sure ipad 2 and iPhone 4s supports iOS 8, but if you've used them, you know it's far from pleasant.

My iPad 1 is useful, but seriously limited by the ram. Constant crashes is seriously irritating. Even the air 2 does that, but I think that may be the nand flash issue.
 

mattoligy

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May 15, 2010
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The iPad Air 3 will retain the same chassis as the iPad Air 2 with the slight chance Apple redesign it to fall in line with the new iPhone design, will have an upgraded Retina HD screen, an A9X with four CPU cores clocked around the same as the A8X leading to an overall higher clock speed and a PVR 7XT to drive the higher res screen while still improving graphics performance.

"PowerVR Series7XT GPUs are up to 60% faster clock for clock, cluster for cluster compared to how Series6XT counterparts perform in graphics benchmarks"

There will likely be no camera improvements and the ram will more than likely remain at 2GB.
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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The iPad Air 3 will retain the same chassis as the iPad Air 2 with the slight chance Apple redesign it to fall in line with the new iPhone design, will have an upgraded Retina HD screen, an A9X with four CPU cores clocked around the same as the A8X leading to an overall higher clock speed and a PVR 7XT to drive the higher res screen while still improving graphics performance.

"PowerVR Series7XT GPUs are up to 60% faster clock for clock, cluster for cluster compared to how Series6XT counterparts perform in graphics benchmarks"

There will likely be no camera improvements and the ram will more than likely remain at 2GB.

This. Anyone thinking 4gb of ram is out of their minds. They have years of 2gb to go.
 

iamMacPerson

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Jun 12, 2011
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IMO, all we'll see is a better display, slightly revised case, and slightly better processor. I think the A7 to A8X will end up being a bigger jump then from the A8X to the A9X. We may see 3GB of RAM but I highly doubt it since Apple used 1GB of RAM for 2 1/2 years before going to 2GB, so don't expect another RAM bump until 2016.
 

barkomatic

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Aug 8, 2008
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I disagree wholeheartedly.

iPad Air 2 has the fastest CPU GPU combination currently available. That is almost same or better than an Nvidia K1. 2 GB RAM is mainstream for ARM based tablets.

Next year's iPad Air 3 will most probably have higher res screen which will give it's upgraded GPU roughly the same power to render at it's native resolution as current iPad Air 2. In fact the A8X GPU is going to serve much longer than A5 found in iPad 2.

The iPad 3 had a higher resolution screen than the previous model but the same amount of RAM. As a result, performance was sub-par and forced Apple into an uncharacteristic mid cycle upgrade which was the iPad 4.

If the iPad Air 3 has a higher resolution then I would hope the lesson was learned and RAM is also upgraded. Otherwise, the same situation may play out.
 

sanke1

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Nov 9, 2010
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If the iPad Air 3 has a higher resolution then I would hope the lesson was learned and RAM is also upgraded. Otherwise, the same situation may play out.

Lesson learned? That's un-possible.

iPad Airs will still have 2 GB RAM at least for next 2-3 generations.

In 2016-17, Apple will use this increase in RAM to 4 GB as an opportunity to force people to upgrade to higher models. As once tablets achieve desktop level configurations, it would be difficult to keep on introducing newer features and it will come down to software which differentiates.

I personally think that Apple has defrauded their millions of iPhone fans by including just 1 GB RAM in all variants of their iPhone 6. Next year's iPhone is sure to have 2 GB RAM following iPad Air 2 trend and that would be the phone to buy.
 
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scaredpoet

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Apr 6, 2007
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I personally think that Apple has defrauded their millions of iPhone fans by including just 1 GB RAM in all variants of their iPhone 6.

That's a little incendiary, don't you think? Fraud would be if Apple specifically claimed the iPhone 6 had 2GB, then shipped it with 1. Apple made no claims at all about RAM. Nor was anyone required to keep their iPhone past the return window if they found it unfit for use.

Maybe Apple disappointed you, but no one was defrauded here.
 

sviato

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Oct 27, 2010
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I don't expect (nor want) the next iPad Air to adopt the current iPhone design as the smart cover would leave the waterfall edges exposed.
 

007p

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Mar 7, 2012
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I disagree wholeheartedly.

iPad Air 2 has the fastest CPU GPU combination currently available. That is almost same or better than an Nvidia K1. 2 GB RAM is mainstream for ARM based tablets.

Next year's iPad Air 3 will most probably have higher res screen which will give it's upgraded GPU roughly the same power to render at it's native resolution as current iPad Air 2. In fact the A8X GPU is going to serve much longer than A5 found in iPad 2.

I agree with you on the hardware side of things.

Whats really letting the ipad down now is the software for me. The blown up iphone os (with no additional features) is getting old....
 

Aluminum213

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Mar 16, 2012
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It's obviously going to have a better GPU/CPU. The RAM will be the same and hopefully a nicer camera. If it gets thinner great but I firmly believe the iPad should be much lighter before it's too light


The main upgrades need to be on the iOS side of things because the hardware is basically perfect
 

sanke1

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Nov 9, 2010
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That's a little incendiary, don't you think? Fraud would be if Apple specifically claimed the iPhone 6 had 2GB, then shipped it with 1. Apple made no claims at all about RAM. Nor was anyone required to keep their iPhone past the return window if they found it unfit for use.

Maybe Apple disappointed you, but no one was defrauded here.

I was obviously exaggerating. They wanted to milk 1 GB RAM and make everyone who got a 6 this year to upgrade to next year's 2 GB iphone.
 

Aluminum213

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Mar 16, 2012
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I was obviously exaggerating. They wanted to milk 1 GB RAM and make everyone who got a 6 this year to upgrade to next year's 2 GB iphone.

No iPhone is worth updating after one year. Next year when the 6S releases with 2GB RAM and A9 chip, it still won't be worth updating.
 
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