I'm talking about COKE everybody, not apple. Coke doesn't sell their product for $1-$2 /liter. Walmart, Walgreens, Kroger etc. do.
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iPad Air Component Costs Estimated to Begin at $274, Roughly 13% Cheaper Than iPad 3
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I'm talking about COKE everybody, not apple. Coke doesn't sell their product for $1-$2 /liter. Walmart, Walgreens, Kroger etc. do.
I never said you were a moron. And I did read the rest of your post.
Considering your education etc., I still expected a more insightful post. The article lists the cost of components and you say it should be cheaper, mainly complaining about storage cost. No offense but it doesn't seem insightful. I'm sure most of your upvotes are not based on insight either, but just simply people wanting things to be cheaper.
Anyway I don't want to get into a cyclical discussion. In the end, I'm sure you can agree that there's more to pricing than simply the cost of the components.
I think your reading comprehension needs fine tuning. You wanted to trade your 1st gen iPad, but I replied i told you I have an iPad 4, so why would I do that. My earlier post states that the experience of the iPad hasn't changed since the first gen, which is true.
Don't think to hard. I know you guys around here try your hardest to sound smart, but really, it's not that serious.
You're just straight up wrong. The iPad Air shares none of the same parts with the iPad 3. The display is now IGZO and is much thinner, the logic board is completely different, the camera is different, and the battery has changed. Please explain to me which parts are the same between the two models...
Don't question the validity of my statements either because I repair iPads as a job, and its a good business. I make $50 an hour. Is that out of line? Lots of people pay it and keep recommending me to other people. Is that bad business?
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Grocery store profit margins are usually 1-2% for most items, with the exception of organic being higher.
"Roughly 13% cheaper"...
Funny that, it feels like at least 30% cheaper than my iPad 4...
Crap screen and built, puny 1GB of RAM.
Will wait for Air 2 or Pro till next year...
Funny that, it feels like at least 30% cheaper than my iPad 4...
Crap screen and built, puny 1GB of RAM.
Will wait for Air 2 or Pro till next year...
Heh heh and 22% equal to 45% comment? Now we need to figure out who should take a refresher class on 3rd grade math class..
Everyone is missing the point. I'm saying the iPad Air is cheaper because the retina display technology was brand new back then. There wasn't anything else like it in another product. Today retina screens are cheaper because they've been mass produced longer. 1GB ram prices have likely come down (even if it's faster). I'm not sure if the 5MP camera modules are exactly the same, but I don't believe the image quality has increased since then in the back camera. So that's another component that could decrease over time. My whole point is Apple has been making these iPads in volume for years so of course the cost will come downespecially since the Air is largely a thinner, faster iPad 3. And that's not a bad thing. Yes, many components are different but they're also iterations of pieces that have been produced millions upon millions of times.
Why is everyone pissed off at me for saying the iPad 3 was cutting edge compared to everything else at the time (mostly being the first retina tablet) and the Air is an iterated iPad 3? There are no MASSIVE differences for an end-user when using the two aside from speed and weight. And those are compelling reasons to upgrade.
The whole point of my post is that volume production has helped bring down costs. iPad Mini likely has a similar bill of goods (cost) but is $100 less. So I reasoned that the iPad Air's higher margin (historically) might help offset the lower margin of an iPad Mini Retina and even out the margin across the product mix. Does anyone really think that statement is insane? Mind you, I was probably the first one (back in late August or early September?) on the forums to say that the new Mini would be $399 and the old one $299. So I can't be that dumb. Hardly anyone else believed the price would go up. They somehow thought an A7 and other same specs (per the rumor at the time) would result in the same $329 price. Now that was dumb thinking.
If I told you, I'd have to...
I'm not sure I completely follow you though, aside from what appears to me that you are saying that cost is ~$580 for a 16gb 5s for a small reseller.
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Huh? My family has owned supermarkets for over 30 years, and the margins are certainly not 1-2%. No business would be sustainable at that rate of margin.
Apple has fantastic margin for an electronics firm. The rest of this post is pretty far off topic and comes across as paranoid. Every other modern country in the world has cheaper health care costs through universal health care, so "socialism" isn't the cause of higher prices. It's a combination of a lot of things, but insurance companies are definitely part of the problem, and they are given even more power with the ACA. But what industry is America taking over and shutting down? And "giving things away" ?? This just sounds like paranoia to me. Let's just stick to the facts that Apple is again improving on its already impressive margin, and it sucks that they charge so much for cellular/GPS and memory upgrades, but it's a way they sell units at an even higher margin to rich people.
If I told you, I'd have to...
I'm not sure I completely follow you though, aside from what appears to me that you are saying that cost is ~$580 for a 16gb 5s for a small reseller.
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yes. and we are not counting the profit margin for the carrier that he got his 5s from. So Apple has to pay 10-15% of msrp for the distributor to sell the 5s. Every time Apple release a device, everyone jump up and down about how big a profit margin Apple make from the tear down cost. Apple make a lot of money but no where near what the tear down number show. Iphone has the highest gross margin in the 50-60% range. Ipad gross margin is between 25-32%. This are the number from Samsung trial last year. And from the gross margin, one has to subtract the corporate SG&A (overhead, marketing etc.), R&D (all the engineer salary + equipment for building prototype etc., all the computer system), then tax (26-27%).
I'd normally agree wholeheartedly, but with Amazon and Google selling "loss leaders" that match the iPad on quality and features, I think those prices are getting harder to justify. This is especially true for the iPad mini.
Understandable but you have to keep in mind that not everyone (especially me) will buy a non-Apple product just because it's cheaper than Apple's. "Cheaper" doesn't generally equal the same experience.
I don't think ipads were ever locked and I am almost positive the new ones are unlocked. Hell, we are paying $130 for a cellular radio, we're already being ripped off. I'd be very pissed if it also came locked to a specific carrier!
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/ipad/ipad-faq/ipad-design-info-font-where-to-buy-unlocked.html
Of course. Some people forget consumers and companies are on opposite sides. A company can do a good job and make products you like, but the main porpouse is to make you buy their things. They are NOT your friend (or, your enemy, by the way
). If a company wants to be your friend, beware! It's somehow like if your parents want to be your friend. Parents can be many things (supportive, counsellors, tender...) but they cannot be your friends, it's not a role they can/should have
It was all explained here by "rui no onna", and in short earlier iPads where hardware specific, but now it is free to use any! (w000t!)
Fair enough, I've heard that Google pretty much sells their devices at cost. They're more or less a developer-centric product that's designed to showcase Google services.
I wouldn't quite say "hammered" - their profit margins went from 42% to 39% or something like that, right? Anyways they're swimming in money. $100 for 16 GB of flash is an outrage. Flash and cellular radios are the same prices set in January 2010.
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In other words, "cuz they can"
I agree that Apple products are high quality. But $100 for 16 GB is crazy, regardless of the great product it's soldered onto.----------
Nah, I'll blame Apple. "We have the best products, so we'll screw the customer out of every last penny we can"
I know Apple's always had expensive upgrades. But I wonder if it's due to media/investor pressure. Don't drop the prices to widen appeal? People complain. Lower your margins? Investors complain.
The primary reason why I refuse to get it. Was considering it, but I literally laughed out loud when I saw Apple was still at 16GB at $500. Only Apple could offer inferior specs and still keep the price above the rest. That's what happens when you put the
on something. Coca-Cola is just sugar, flavoring and water.
It costs about 5 cents in materials to make a 2-liter. They sell it for between $1 and $2.
That's a 1,000-2,000% markup. Where are the articles on this?
CokeRumors.com
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lol what's wrong with that? Value is the eye of the beholder. If you wanna go ahead and get ripped off by willing buy a product that has specs from at least two years ago (storage/RAM/iOS) then be my guest. The only thing that makes iToys "valuable" are their prices. If you wanna pay more for looks, again go for it. But in the end you could have double the storage and more and spend about the same. Look at the Nexus 10...and the Nexus 10 2 still has to come out. I'm sure the N10 will put the iPad Air to shame specs wise. If Google were to market their line up better, Nexus would truly give the iPhone and iPad a run for their money. They're great products running a great OS. If more knew about it and gave them a chance, Apple would be forced to make the iPad more competitive instead of relying on their user base going "oh it's 1mm thinner and 10 grams lighter!!!!!! MUST HAVE IT
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