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NeroAZ

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iOS turns off the hotspot when no device is connected.

This becomes irritating when I'm using my iPad as a hotspot in a foreign country with a prepaid SIM card: when I put away my iPhone, the iPhone disconnects from the hotspot and the iPad stops broadcasting. I'd then have to turn on my iPad and navigate to the Personal Hotspot setting to be able to tether again.

I can understand it's to save power, but with 25 hours of battery life, there's really no reason I have to fiddle with my iPad each time I need to connect to the hotspot after a period of non-usage.

Exactly, its rather annoying, that is why I chose to buy a cellular iPad air so I can just share my monthly data allotment for $10/mo and have my iPad always connected whether I'm in wifi range or not. it goes everywhere with me.
 

mabhatter

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My Air is coming today. But is it me or is Battery Life worse on the iPad 2 since iOS7? I'm noting a lot of issues cropping up. Apps crashing all the time (when they didn't before) and my battery drains faster and takes HOURS to recharge now. I don't know why Apple is keeping the iPad 2 around instead of say the iPad 3. Seems like iOS7 really isn't designed to work with the iPad 2.

Close all your apps and do the reset-reboot... (I believe thats restart while holding the home + power) It resets all the program space. You probably have a bad app that doesn't like iOS 7.

The main reason to keep the iPad 2 is that iPad 3 and 4 use all their extra battery and CPU just to drive the Retnia display. The benchmarks show they aren't actually that much faster than the iPad 2... And the new Air is a giant leap over all of them. Just selling iPad 4 instead would provide Apple no cost savings, and users not much worse off than iPad 2. And it keeps a dock connector on the books for those schools that bought into that scheme with classrooms full.
 

mabhatter

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People who have lives and leave the reach of wifi.

I'd go so far as to say RELIABLE always on Internet IS the "killer app" of iPad versus Laptops and Netbooks. For mere mortals, it makes all those tech toys EASY. Versus how they used to be. In my company it was IT that bought them up first... Because we all got tired of "it support" for our own gadgets.
 

Terrin

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Where do you get it for "a couple extra bucks". AT&T wants to charge me $10 extra per device. With 4 people on our plan we have 4 iPads and 2 iPad Mini's that can be used outside of WiFi. That would be $60 per month to allow any of them to be used without tethering. I am now waiting to order the new iPad Mini's. I am planning to get the Cell Version because I want the GPS but still plan to use tethering to get around the extra $10 per device. If it was really only $2 (couple of dollars) per month per device I would do that instead. But I really think there should be no per device charge since you are paying for the amount of data. Also, iOS should really pass the GPS Signal to the tethered device. I think there is a Android App that does that.

That is why I like T-Mobile. Most of its smartphone plans allow you to use its unlimited data as a personal hotspot for no extra cost. In a way it eliminates the need for a cellular iPad as long as you have a smartphone. I often use my iPhone's data connection to give my laptop cellular data.
 

skier777

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Question: I have an ipad mini with an unlimited data plan from AT&T. Can I use it as a hotspot? And if I buy an iphone off contract, with no phone or data service plan...can I tether it to my ipad?

What can a iPhone do that an iPad cannot? You cant place calls and cant receive texts so it seems rather pointless to carry two devices...
 

citi

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What can a iPhone do that an iPad cannot? You cant place calls and cant receive texts so it seems rather pointless to carry two devices...

In my business I can call my clients via Ringcentral app and I can receive emails and imessages - from most people I know) directly to my iPad. So not so pointless.
 

nothing2seehere

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Great battery life, really poor data speeds.

????
Not sure what you mean.
Perhaps you thought that the 100kb/s transfer rate was a max... or even averaged speed? It was NOT. Anand CHOSE that as a fixed speed for the duration of the test. He specifically states that he would expect real world data transfer to be "burstier"... ie: sometimes much faster, sometimes not at all.
 

skier777

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In my business I can call my clients via Ringcentral app and I can receive emails and imessages - from most people I know) directly to my iPad. So not so pointless.

Read the quote that i was responding to, the guy is saying hes going to run a cellphone with no plan off of a iPad hotspot. My point is that the phone is redundant.

Just wondering, how do you receive calls?
 

nothing2seehere

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Nov 1, 2013
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Apple's got these idiots by the balls. Seriously wrong.

This one also confused me. Including the ability to use the iPad as a hotspot makes Apple precisely ZERO dollars... & people have a multitude of options for tethering, mifi, hotspotting, etc.
How do you think Apple has users "by the balls" as you say?? If anything, the cell companies overcharge & THAT is a tragedy. I wouldn't stoop to calling everybody that needs/desires the service enough that they are willing to pay for it idiots though.
Also, as mentioned- those that have a share plan get the hot spot feature free. Are they idiots as well? Does Apple have them "by the balls"? Please explain.
 

mrxak

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Since most iPad users have a smart phone and already paying for data, I don't see why to get a cellular enabled iPad as well. You can setup the phone as a hotspot just as easily and access the internet thought it, without paying extra for the cellular hardware. But that's just me.

Those of us lucky enough to still have grandfathered unlimited data on their cell phones don't get tethering. What with T-Mobile offering 200 MB free cell data every month, which is plenty for checking email and surfing the web in those times when there's no WiFi.

And the cellular hardware isn't just about data either. You get GPS with that.
 

citi

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Read the quote that i was responding to, the guy is saying hes going to run a cellphone with no plan off of a iPad hotspot. My point is that the phone is redundant.

Just wondering, how do you receive calls?

Got it Re: the quote. Most people think Ringcentral is just a phone forwarder but it is also a full fledged VOIP app. If you are familiar with the app, you just have to enable the VOIP calling in the mobile app settings. Very cool.
 

mrsir2009

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Wow, that's impressive. Under real world use it will probably last longer than 24 hours too, because unless you're torrenting or something the data isn't going to be transferring constantly.
 

iamkarlp

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I think you meant planet...
Thanks.
In any case, this isn't true - by a long shot.

1) there's plenty of fallow spectrum - huge swathes go unused. Allocations for military use, for one example, are huge.

2) re-use of spectrum, either by use of geographic dispersement or simply by using low power is easy to achieve these days.

Have a look at white spaces - that's the right idea and real products should be showing up fairly soon.

You completely miss the point.

Neither Apple nor Us get to live in the world of our choosing. We must live within the parameters set before us.

While it is true that there is a large amount of available radio spectrum, (although not as much as you are leading others to believe) Unfortunately the spectrum for wifi and cellular is quite constrained, and my comments are very valid within the current reality.

Hopefully that can change in the future, and everything from frequency re-allocation to coordinated whitespace use, advanced spread spectrum hopping and even emerging Advanced Single Antenna FDX operation will help that.

But that's the future. For today, my point stands.

Karl P
 
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ISanych

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Other than geeks, who pays for connecting an iPad to the cellular network?

People who live in countries with reasonable prices on mobile inet (world is bigger than USA).

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It will be interesting to see how battery technology evolves 5-10 years from now.

Batteries are not improving much actually. If they were improving like processors for example it would be years of work from single charge :)
 

Acorn

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Other than geeks, who pays for connecting an iPad to the cellular network?

this might be out of your realm of reality but free wifi is not available all over the country. Especially places like las vegas where they dont want so many people leeching their wifi. its all closed networks even in coffee houses which you have to pay to access.

its better to pay once and have access everywhere then to have to continually pay for access every time you change locations like back to the hotel. also a closed network that you have to pay for.

where I live at home free wifi is everywhere, but its not like that in every state.
 
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nzalog

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Apple's got these idiots by the balls. Seriously wrong.

What is wrong with 200MB free data on an iPad? I'd never pay for internet just for a tablet, but paying a little more for an iPad that comes with free lifetime data even only 200mb is not a bad deal. Most people will continue to use it on wifi but will have the option to use it without occasionally. Nothing wrong with that, what got up your ass?
 

gotluck

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What is wrong with 200MB free data on an iPad? I'd never pay for internet just for a tablet, but paying a little more for an iPad that comes with free lifetime data even only 200mb is not a bad deal. Most people will continue to use it on wifi but will have the option to use it without occasionally. Nothing wrong with that, what got up your ass?

I dont get his problem either..
Dont forget about the GPS either. No GPS in Wi-Fi model. Worth $130 to me for GPS + 200mb/mo
 
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