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GummiBjorn

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So basically what I want to know if people have light bleeding/leakage on theirs or not to see how widespread this "issue" is and whether it's worth exchanging mine or returning it. Post proof, please. See too many "no mine is perfect" comments but with no proof. I have yet to see one iPad screen without light leakage. This is based on pictures on the internet and on the ones I've seen in store.

Picture of mine (sorry for the crappy quality, cellphone camera..):
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/2671/y5m6.jpg

For the record, I think the screen looks amazing when showing bright colors (home screen for an example). I don't notice any dark area on mine on the sides like many do or any pinkish, greenish whatever color tint of any kind on the screen. It's just the light bleeding visible when the corners are dark, like when watching movies for an example.. which I plan to do a lot.
 

mcdj

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Like I said the last time you asked people to prove they don't have light leaks, it ain't happenin.

I basically asked the same thing when the ipad 3 came out and was laughed out of town.
 

The.Dude

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Plenty of people posting in the 2-3 other extremely active threads on the first page here.
 

GummiBjorn

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Like I said the last time you asked people to prove they don't have light leaks, it ain't happenin.

I basically asked the same thing when the ipad 3 came out and was laughed out of town.

That sounds really immature. Was it here on this forum? :eek:

Plenty of people posting in the 2-3 other extremely active threads on the first page here.

Which threads? About light bleeding? Thanks. :)
 

karmamule

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To my eyes my iPad has no noticeable light bleed unless I peer really REALLY closely. I took a pic with my LG G2 (which has pretty good low light performance) and it made what light bleed there is a touch more visible, but it's still minimal, and for normal viewing purposes I don't even see it.

 

GummiBjorn

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That looks promising! What lighting condition is that in? Completely dark room with maximum brightness?
 

Zcott

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Steps to check for a defective iPad:

1. Use your iPad in a way that you'll never actually use it in the real world.
2. Post on forums complaining about it.
3. Repeat with new device next year.
 

GummiBjorn

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Steps to check for a defective iPad:

1. Use your iPad in a way that you'll never actually use it in the real world.
2. Post on forums complaining about it.
3. Repeat with new device next year.

Thanks for that useful contribution. :rolleyes:
 

MrXiro

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Thanks for that useful contribution. :rolleyes:

It's a totally apt point. Stop looking for reasons to dislike your iPad and just enjoy it... if there is a real issue it would bother you during real world usage...

The first Mini I had last year the glass screen became unglued or something... but when Pushed down on the middle of the screen I could hear the thing grind along the chamferred edge (volume button side closer to the middle). Showed it to Apple and they gave me a new one.
 

GummiBjorn

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It's a totally apt point. Stop looking for reasons to dislike your iPad and just enjoy it... if there is a real issue it would bother you during real world usage...

The first Mini I had last year the glass screen became unglued or something... but when Pushed down on the middle of the screen I could hear the thing grind along the chamferred edge (volume button side closer to the middle). Showed it to Apple and they gave me a new one.

Who the hell are you to say it doesn't bother me in "real world usage" or that I'm looking for reasons to not enjoy my iPad? I swear these apologetic comments are ridiculous. Do you really think I would take my time and post this if it didn't bother me during "real world usage"? Read the OP again. I'm not interested in hearing excuses.
 

karmamule

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That looks promising! What lighting condition is that in? Completely dark room with maximum brightness?

I normally watch in a room with low ambient light (low light bedside lamp) and the brightness around 30%.

For the test I pushed it a bit past that, the room is completely dark (only light from the hallway), and put brightness at 50%. My goal was to see if there's any light bleed at the outer limits of what I'd possibly watch it at and was happy to see that under those conditions I could really only see it via camera and NOT the naked eye.
 

mcdj

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Waste of a thread.

waste of a reply.

OP, having owned every single iPad and iPhone model made, I can tell you from experience, the truth of the matter is that there is no truth of the matter.

There are flawed screens. There are perfect ones. There are yellow ones. Green ones. Blue ones. Crisp white evenly lit ones with backlight bleeding. Crisp white evenly lit ones with no backlight bleeding but a crooked home button. Etc.

Which one will you get? Unfortunately, it's the luck of the draw, period. No amount of analysis, anecdotes, screenshots, factory codes, production dates, etc. can guarantee you a perfect screen. The ONLY metrics that matter are how much time, energy, and money you are willing to spend looking for the iPad that looks good to you.

You will not necessarily find it in the same store the next guy found his. You won't necessarily find it in the same STACK of iPads from the same truck, made in the same factory, on the same day. It's a lottery of the highest order.

So, if your iPad has bleed and bothers you, exchange it. But be aware the next iPad might have its own set of issues. If it's perfect, you're done. If it has the same or another issue, you can exchange it again, probably. But the amount of times you can do that are limited. You can return it and buy another one in another store. And exchange that if there's a problem.

You can do this ad nauseum until you either run of money/gas, run out of stores to play the game in, or run out of patience. You may find your perfect iPad; you may not. But the only way you even have a chance of finding it is by hitting the pavement. You will not find it by taking polls, asking for photos, checking serial numbers, etc. It's a losing proposition.
 
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Lindsford

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To my eyes my iPad has no noticeable light bleed unless I peer really REALLY closely. I took a pic with my LG G2 (which has pretty good low light performance) and it made what light bleed there is a touch more visible, but it's still minimal, and for normal viewing purposes I don't even see it.

[url=http://i.imgur.com/ESyFX4f.jpg]Image[/URL]


I can see a little bit of light bleed in the bottom right corner of the picture, but I think that display looks fantastic, and i've seen WAY WAY worse. I'd keep that panel. Some people are so OCD. But I can understand to a certain degree if it's bad it needs to go back 128gb LTE model is nearly 1K after taxes I'd want a perfect screen too.
 

karmamule

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I can see a little bit of light bleed in the bottom right corner of the picture, but I think that display looks fantastic, and i've seen WAY WAY worse. I'd keep that panel. Some people are so OCD. But I can understand to a certain degree if it's bad it needs to go back 128gb LTE model is nearly 1K after taxes I'd want a perfect screen too.

Yup, and the camera exaggerates it....it's much fainter to my own eyes, so yeah it's a keeper. :-D

On a side note, the LG G2, like lumia and some other recent cell phone cameras, has optical image stabilization and it's not uncommon that my photos in low light look significantly brighter than reality does to me!
 

AdonisSMU

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Markyyy

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I have three VERY MINOR bleeds at the bottom of my display (the edge where the home button is) and they're uniformly spread out. So, I'm VERY SATISFIED with my display. I'm just bothered by the, admitedly, tiny black speck I have between the LCD and glass. When something is so near to perfect, it's such a shame to have a little black speck there :(
 

MrXiro

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Who the hell are you to say it doesn't bother me in "real world usage" or that I'm looking for reasons to not enjoy my iPad? I swear these apologetic comments are ridiculous. Do you really think I would take my time and post this if it didn't bother me during "real world usage"? Read the OP again. I'm not interested in hearing excuses.

If you need to turn off all your lights, turn the brightness level to a level you would never use in the dark and squint really really hard, to find an issue, then you might be nit picking... Just a little. I'm only saying.

You ever watch the movie Clerks? There's a dude going through all the eggs looking for "the perfect dozen"... That could be you.
 

AdonisSMU

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I have three VERY MINOR bleeds at the bottom of my display (the edge where the home button is) and they're uniformly spread out. So, I'm VERY SATISFIED with my display. I'm just bothered by the, admitedly, tiny black speck I have between the LCD and glass. When something is so near to perfect, it's such a shame to have a little black speck there :(

Exchange it for a non defective iPad.
 

C. Robert

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Steps to check for a defective iPad:

1. Use your iPad in a way that you'll never actually use it in the real world.
2. Post on forums complaining about it.
3. Repeat with new device next year.

Tell me about it. Some of these people would complain about the box if apple changed it.
 

GummiBjorn

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Nov 3, 2013
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Thanks to everyone who contributed to the purpose of the thread. I'm gonna exchange mine and hope for one with less light bleed. And so you know, the camera won't pick up the light bleed at 50% brightness but it's still visible to the naked eye. I don't even have to be in a dark room. It's just that in those condition these poor cellphone cameras can pick up the light to show where the light bleedings are and how large that's why it's best to post proof under those circumstances.
 

PeterKai

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Nov 4, 2013
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First - display bleeding is a regular deffect of LCD panel, even if someone say that is normal, I asked quality manager in company who is assembling Sony TVs - they sending displays with that defect back to manufacturer.

Second - some barely noticeable "bleeding" you will see even on normal working LCD panel, when you are in dark and you set brightness to maximum. That I do not consider as defect, because you are in dark and brightness is on maximum. You will never use it in that conmbination, unfortunatelly when you booting iPad for first half of boot process brightness is on maximum.

But again, only barely noticeable bleeding I do not consider as defect, and that kind of bleeding you will not see if you are out of total dark.

Third - I asked my friend in Wistron (the company who is assembling Sony TVs, is similar to Foxconn etc) about defect panels.

Answer why they put defect LCD in production was: it will cost much much more if someone or something will check LCD panel on every product (TVs, iPads - doesn't matter). It will cost really much, if you producing milions of goods like Apple, it will cost extra millions of USD.

So simply - it's much cheaper do not make checks on LCD panels and if customer will return it, give him new product, than checking this in production.


Remember Apple sold how much iPads this weekend? How many millions? And here is few hundret people with defective LCD...
 
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