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I hope that doesn't affect their decisions to replace all 40lb books with the iPad. Very bad PR indeed.

Why do you mention the weight?
That's not an issue, should be speed and ease of use, plus reliability that are the issues.
 
If it's a reliant on a server or network, then that's a problem. Way too much reliance on technology. Everything should be stored locally.

I love Tech as much as the next guy, but for an entire fleet of multi-million dollar jet-aircraft carrying thousands of people to be crippled and delayed over an iPad App is quite frankly, ridiculous.

It probably is synced with a centralized server before the flight over wifi, then runs completely offline. Skip that step and you're left without maps. It's the equivalent of opening a duffel of books no finding you're missing the book you really need. Solution is don't skip that step.
 
Not only 40lbs of manuals and performance charts to lug, but also a PITA to keep the paper copies updated. The iPad has been a revolution in the cockpit. The efficiency gains have far outweighed the occasional technological glitches.

iPad 1 still works well for its original intended purpose, especially if just displaying PDFs and doing calculations. No need for iCloud, Handoff, iMessage, or the latest version of Safari.

As an Android developer, I wouldn't be willing to bet a nice steak dinner that a similar mission on an Android tablet could be made any more reliable.

Sounds like some bad PDF updates got pushed out to the fleet while connected via WiFi on the ground.
 
An App issue, surely...

Why is this necessarily an iPad problem? Probably wouldn't even be news if it was a Windows tablet. Would have been an inevitable probability! Sniping aside, time moves on, folks...
 
The best part about these articles is reading the mental gymnastics and outright conspiracy theories that some people come up with to shift any possible blame from an Apple product.
 
Looks like the security profile probably expired that they use to keep them authenticated.
 
"his co-pilot's iPad had went blank".

Excellent English, that.

I was about to post the same thing but decided to check if it was already picked up on. While I know the site disapproves of these comments on OP posts it is inexcusable on a Front Page story that was hopefully edited.
 
The best part about these articles is reading the mental gymnastics and outright conspiracy theories that some people come up with to shift any possible blame from an Apple product.

So what blame does Apple deserve based on what we know so far?
 
So is this a bug with their own internally-developed app, or is a 3rd party app to blame?
 
So what happens when they lose the ability to use their iPads in the air?:eek:

The pigs are safe from those angry birds for a brief spell.

In all seriousness, the times that I have been, or seen the flight deck, they're not thumbing through the 40 lbs of manuals looking for a way to fly the airplane. This is for emergencies or cases where there are questions, and used to double check the procedures that the pilots are doing.

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I was about to post the same thing but decided to check if it was already picked up on. While I know the site disapproves of these comments on OP posts it is inexcusable on a Front Page story that was hopefully edited.

I got one of those "Don't criticize the verbiage!" e-mails on one where the meaning of the sentence went totally left field from the intended meaning. ("censor" being used instead of "sensor").
 
Now I know it's just the low light and a pedal of some sort, but doesn't it look like the dude is just wearing his socks?

As for the complaints about it being an iPad 1 - it probably took 4 years for the airline to decide the shift to digital manuals, then design, fabricate and install the slot that the iPad goes in. If they were really smart the'd allow it to just plug into the planes electrical system instead of fitting a mega battery to it. But that'll come in the next 4 years ...

Also I guess this was an error with the software the airline wrote for the iPad, not the machine itself?
 
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Wait, you are telling me that these pilots don't have a plan B to use their backup manuals? Hellooo!

Yes, they do.

Plan A:
Use the iPad.

Plan B:
If you're on the ground, and Plan A doesn't work, come back to the gate to get it fixed. Don't just take the jet off and hope for the best.

Plan C:
If you're in the air, navigate to the nearest airport and land, if it is safe to do so.

(I don't know if Plan C is valid, or if they continue on...)
 
Wait, what?! That's a three hour drive. Factoring in arriving and exiting an airport, waiting at the gate to board, and the flight itself, there's no time saved. Maybe even time lost.

Maybe the guy doesn't drive or can't drive or even hates driving (traffic). There are probably other reasons why he didn't bother driving the 3 hours.
 
It will be interesting to see what the reason for the outage is. It looks like the primary is the co-pilots ipad, which makes sense. The backup was the pilots ipad. but the chances that they both go dead at the same time as well as other flights is interesting. if they are checking into a server, that would be a bad implementation IMO. These are flight manuals, they are updated real-time so there should be no need for a server connection, yet that seems like a possible reason for the outage.
 
First the removal from schools and now this. Apple needs to renew their commitment to corporate customers.

The school system decided that it didn't want to spend the money on iPads.
The flight problem was the application running on the iPad.

What does this have to do with Apple's commitment ?
 
i still don't understand why iPads are needed why don't planes have navigation computers by now instead they retrofit with iPads i don't get it. for goodness sake they land them selves whats so hard about displaying a map
 
So what blame does Apple deserve based on what we know so far?


All of it. Anytime anything goes wrong, if an Apple product is involved, the entire situation is Apple's fault. Refusal to blame Apple for any and all direct and indirect consequences means you are a robotic fanboy that can't accept reality.

Life is much easier when you don't have to think critically!
 
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