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Tysknaden

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Will Apple repeat the trick? Will they start to put last_years iPad into a plastic shell and offer it as something new?
I do not like the iPhone-C. It feels like they're trying to sell less for improving margin of profit. But still selling the oldtimer iPad 2, which does have an already dropped connector... is a much bigger shame.
Will they offer the iPad 4 after introduction of the iPad 5 in plastic or metal? (The replacement of incarnation 2 with 4 is unavoidable for Apple.)
What do you think?
 

b3ats

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Aug 27, 2012
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Personally I can't see it happening this time due to a lack of leaks.

I reckon Apple will gauge the reception of the 5C and then decide based on that demand and what their customers are telling them.

If they do it I would suspect that the it'd only be on the Mini, as the bigger iPad is pushed more towards the Corporate market and customers looking for a premium product.

This time around I suspect we'll lose the iPad 2 and 4th Gen and they'll be replaced with an A7 or A7X iPad with TouchID and a retina iPad Mini.
 

kristalsoldier

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Aug 10, 2013
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Personally I can't see it happening this time due to a lack of leaks.

I reckon Apple will gauge the reception of the 5C and then decide based on that demand and what their customers are telling them.

If they do it I would suspect that the it'd only be on the Mini, as the bigger iPad is pushed more towards the Corporate market and customers looking for a premium product.

This time around I suspect we'll lose the iPad 2 and 4th Gen and they'll be replaced with an A7 or A7X iPad with TouchID and a retina iPad Mini.

What do you mean when you say "we'll lose the iPad 2 and 4th Gen and they'll be replaced with an A7 or A7X iPad..."?
 

b3ats

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Aug 27, 2012
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What do you mean when you say "we'll lose the iPad 2 and 4th Gen and they'll be replaced with an A7 or A7X iPad..."?

I mean that it makes no sense having two big Retina iPads now there's a Mini on the block too. Do away with the 4th Gen, do away with the 2, and leave one premium big iPad. They may even decide to have two Minis.

As I say, it's only my personal opinion and I know no more than the average regular guy.

I guess we'll find out next month.
 

Dambuster43

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May 20, 2013
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I don't think it will ever happen. Nobody wants a plastic iPad!

Why not? My Retina iPad sits inside Apples full case with smart cover. Its fully protected...but I don't see the metal back at any time. Do we really care if its metal or plastic? The complaint a bout the 5c is not do much its being plastic, its about being over priced after Apple were thought to be bringing in a cheaper range of iPhone. Tim has had months to come out and say...we don't deal in cheap ...but he didn't.
If Apple lower the price and use plastic..I would have one!
 

b3ats

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Aug 27, 2012
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I don't think it will ever happen. Nobody wants a plastic iPad!

Not sure anyone wanted a plastic iPhone either after the 4 and 5 came out - but they're selling loads of them.

Judging by what usually happens when Apple releases a product, we don't actually know what we want until they've made it.
 

kristalsoldier

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Aug 10, 2013
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I mean that it makes no sense having two big Retina iPads now there's a Mini on the block too. Do away with the 4th Gen, do away with the 2, and leave one premium big iPad. They may even decide to have two Minis.

As I say, it's only my personal opinion and I know no more than the average regular guy.

I guess we'll find out next month.

Thanks. Personally, I think Apple will certainly get rid of iPad2 and phase out iPad3. But they will keep iPad4 around till the next iPad release (by next I mean version 6). By then the transition to the slim version will be complete. I think it is only then that Apple's iPad line will consist of 1 full-sized iPad and 2 minis (of which one may be a lower-cost version).

Caveat: Like you mentioned, this is just speculation on my part.
 

Lindsford

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Mar 14, 2012
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I think it's possible. iPad Mini C, to hit the sub $300 market. However I don't think they would have 4 different models ipad/mini ipad c/ mini c on top of 16,32,64,128gb wifi and LTE models
 

herdnerfer

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Feb 12, 2011
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I think the Ipad will be the S version & the Mini will be the C version on the iPad front.

The bigger iPad will always have more power & better specs & most likely get TouchID

While the Mini will use last gen CPUs & remain retina-less & get the colorful cases to keep it the cheaper alternative.
 

TJ61

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Nov 16, 2011
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Not sure about plastic, but I'm started to think Apple could bifurcate the mini line; offering a "C" version to maintain a lower price point, and an upscale version to please the folks that like the form factor but want more horsepower.

The "C" would be non-retina and lesser CPU/GPU, and maybe only come in 16GB to keep the number of SKUs down.
 

McPc

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Sep 30, 2012
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I'm curious as to what the weight difference would be with a plastic iPad? I suspect it could possibly be lighter which a lot of people would like.
 

Chrysaor

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May 16, 2006
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No plastic iPad, same goes for Touch ID also. There would have been leaked cases by now.
 

mrcarter2

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May 26, 2013
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I'm curious as to what the weight difference would be with a plastic iPad? I suspect it could possibly be lighter which a lot of people would like.

Actually it would probably be heavier. Apple would have to do what they did with the 5C and add an internal metal plate for rigidity in addition to using thick pieces of plastic so it doesn't feel like a flimsy piece of crap. It would probably have more or less the same thickness and weight of the current iPad, while the iPad 5 gets the huge benefits in weight and girth reduction.
 

Curun

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Sep 10, 2013
314
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I don't think it will happen, but I could see it. The iPad 2 has likely been a great seller for education and corporate purposes. They need to maintain a less expensive, less cutting edge, but still premium device, tied into their ecosystem.

Could be perfect for education market.

$329 plastic non retina 9.7" for entry/education, A6

$399 Al mini retina, A6 or A7

$499 Al regular retina, A7X

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Not sure anyone wanted a plastic iPhone either after the 4 and 5 came out - but they're selling loads of them.

Judging by what usually happens when Apple releases a product, we don't actually know what we want until they've made it.
You can't begin to apply logic to consumers.

My girlfriend called me, she was away visiting her parents. Was getting a free upgrade from her 4S. 5 or 5C she asked.

I told her both are good, 5 is better. 5C is same electronics, just a heavier, thicker, fatter of the 5. Get the metal one.

She came home with a green plastic because it's prettier.

LOL *shrug*
 

Zellio

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Feb 7, 2012
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It would weigh more then the ipad 1. All the people here crying because their girly hands can't hold ipads for long would be SOL. :confused:
 

Zellio

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Feb 7, 2012
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Not sure anyone wanted a plastic iPhone either after the 4 and 5 came out - but they're selling loads of them.

Judging by what usually happens when Apple releases a product, we don't actually know what we want until they've made it.

No they aren't, the 5s's are sold out while the 5c sits on shelves!
 

TJ61

macrumors 6502a
Nov 16, 2011
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I'm curious as to what the weight difference would be with a plastic iPad? I suspect it could possibly be lighter which a lot of people would like.

I think the plastic one would weigh more. Although Al is over twice as dense as polycarbonate, it's Young's Modulus is 35x higher, so it takes much less mass to provide the required stiffness.

Look at the iPhones as a guide:
5C - 132 g
5S - 112 g
 

jozero

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Sep 14, 2009
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After getting a 5c I'd happily get a iPad-C. The insanely high quality plastic just feels amazing. It also has a warmth from the device running. I never did like the cold metal feel of iPhones. Only downside with an iPad-C is it wouldn't have retina, and mini really needs a retina screen.
 

576316

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May 19, 2011
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Personally I can't see it happening this time due to a lack of leaks.

I reckon Apple will gauge the reception of the 5C and then decide based on that demand and what their customers are telling them.

If they do it I would suspect that the it'd only be on the Mini, as the bigger iPad is pushed more towards the Corporate market and customers looking for a premium product.

This time around I suspect we'll lose the iPad 2 and 4th Gen and they'll be replaced with an A7 or A7X iPad with TouchID and a retina iPad Mini.

I can see TouchID being more practical on an iPad mini than an iPad. Even if it costs a little bit more, I think they should bring TouchID to the iPad mini. Or neither of them. But I don't think one should be left out over the other. People need to stop seeing the iPad mini as a lesser device, it's just a SMALLER device. Not necessarily in a different league to the iPad.
 
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