iPad Design

Discussion in 'iPad' started by jazz1, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. jazz1 macrumors 65816

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    http://www.slideshare.net/edog1203/stanford-cs193p-designing-for-ipad

    I don't know if this has already been discussed but I thought it was a great perspective on why the iPad is going to be so great. After watching this I'm getting the same great feeling I had when I bought the first 128K Mac after using a //+. Sort of like the "Wow" thing I felt playing with MacPaint the first time or icons on a computer.

    No, I'm not saying the iPad is going to replace my desktop and laptop. But after seeing this slide show I think I'm really starting to get the iPad.
     
  2. admanimal macrumors 68040

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    This slide show should be required viewing before someone is allowed to post in the iPad forum.
     
  3. MacDawg macrumors P6

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    I am sorry, but I couldn't even make it through the first 10 of the 87 slides

    :(
     
  4. admanimal macrumors 68040

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    Sitting through the slides is a little dull, but he does a great job explaining why the iPad is what it is, and why that makes it great.
     
  5. anthonymoody macrumors 68020

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    +1. Thanks for posting this.
     
  6. 4DThinker macrumors 68020

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    I watched the whole slideshow.
    I now know why he doesn't work for Apple anymore.
    The iPad is about simplifying. His slide show was not.
     
  7. admanimal macrumors 68040

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    How could it have been any simpler? He had a lot of slides, but everything he was saying was totally clear. Don't forget that this was also part of a course lecture.

    Here is the iTunes link to the Stanford iPhone course page that has his full lecture on it:

    http://deimos3.apple.com/WebObjects...124430053.03124430055.3394527866?i=1491211300
     
  8. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    Worth mentioning -

    CS106A with Meron - Learn Java and programming from scratch. For Free - Programming videos are on iTunes (but you can get better video from stanford website for CS106A)
    CS106B - After 106B - uses C++

    And by the time you've done these, you'll be more than ready for the FREE CS193 iPhone/iPad/Touch app programming lecture course.

    Videos, puzzles, answers - and all throwable onto a Mac, iPhone or iPad...
     
  9. skubish macrumors 68030

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    Pretty poor presentation. A whole bunch of opinions with no facts.
     
  10. admanimal macrumors 68040

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    You'll have to outdo him when Stanford invites you to give a lecture after you've worked at Apple for a bunch of years.
     
  11. Jaro65 macrumors 68040

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    This was likely a pretty helpful presentation for his target audience. High-level? Yes, but that was the intent.
     
  12. FrankieTDouglas macrumors 65816

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    Yeah, the ipad will be revolutionary!

    Wait... that promotional slideshow is in a format the ipad can't handle.
     
  13. PlayHard macrumors member

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    It's in Flash

    And the funny thing (at least to me) is that it's in Flash which won't play on the iPad. :D

    Don't get me wrong, I'm getting one but I just find it amusing that a lot of iPad videos demonstrating it is in Flash.
     
  14. admanimal macrumors 68040

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    The video I downloaded from the iTunes U link will play just fine on an iPad, and it actually has the guy speaking and not just the slides. :D

    You're right that it is very high-level, but at the same time he articulates several key points about why the iPad is what it is that many people don't get.
     
  15. jaykk macrumors 6502a

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    I downloaded the PDF version (if you register at slideshare, you can download them). Its easier to read that way. Flash is just wrapping this pdf.

    Anyways, it is simple, straight forward. It is encouraging us (Developers) to think towards a better app design. With greater power comes great responsibility. The iPad is a fun platform to develop than on an iPhone (you can present more stuff), or Mac OS X(you don't have to worry about about too complex windows, layouts and stuff)

    Thanks for sharing this, this gave me even more reason to work on my app..
     
  16. FrankieTDouglas macrumors 65816

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    Guess it's not quite the ultimate browsing experience that it's touted to be?

    Add the "website that is actively promoting the ipad yet would not be viewable on the ipad" to the list of flash content sites that another thread was asking for.
     
  17. Eso macrumors 68000

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    Agreed.

    How the iPad changes everything

    Sorry, but a screenshot of a desktop with 100 miscellaneous files doesn't convince me there is a problem with files and that the iPad does it better.

    A fake photo of a mouse with 20 buttons doesn't convince me the mouse is a "bug, not a feature".
     
  18. shakenmartini macrumors 6502

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    In order to get my minor in chemical engineering I had to take a class called "communications for engineers".

    Basically this class taught engineers how to talk and deal with non-engineers.

    This class is the same, teaching very bright CS students how to design *good* applications since this is not necessarily self evident.

    As to the flash part, this is just a wrapper for content that is already iPhone and iPad compatible. Mainly it is this way because of IE and its long domineering history on U computers and the fact that the only thing that is compatible with both IE and everything else is flash. However, as someone in academia, this will not be continuing as many have realized how bad the Adobe lock in is for flash content.
     
  19. admanimal macrumors 68040

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    The guy gave a 30 minute lecture for the Stanford iPhone development course, not a 2 hour keynote address. He needed to get his point across as succinctly as possible and he made it very clear why the iPad is designed the way it is in order to give the students an idea of how developing for the iPad is different than other platforms. He's not trying to convince anyone to buy one.
     
  20. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    Or an example of here are sites where there are alternatives to the content not requiring Flash...?

    http://deimos3.apple.com/WebObjects...124430053.03124430055.3394527866?i=1491211300

    iTunes preview hasn't yet covered iTunes U, but i'd imagine they could soon .

    As mentioned, you get a more full version through subscribing to the podcast of one of the excellent CS courses free from Stanford (they've been running for 20 odd years some of them).

    http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs193p/cgi-bin/drupal doesn't have Flash interfering with the course content.
     
  21. maflynn Moderator

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    Holy crap, 87 slides - my eyes starting glazing over.

    The argument to justify the iPad did not seem cohesive but rather scattered and illogical. Assumptions were made that were not entirely correct imo.
    "The mouse is a bug not a feature" for instance. The author is doing logical backbending to try to justify his point

    While the iPad may in fact be successful, it will not be at the expense of a computer or the iPhone. If the iPhone is anti-social, so won't using the iPad.
     
  22. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    True - but maybe it makes more sense in context of the talk he gave that the slides accompanied.

    The mouse is a bug is a bit weird out of context. But the mouse is not a finger is normal.
     
  23. greygray macrumors 68000

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    That was a terribly boring presentation. I went all the way to the 5th slide and stopped.
     
  24. anthonymoody macrumors 68020

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    Do you know how the iPad handles files? Have you played with the SDK?
     
  25. samcraig macrumors P6

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    Just flipped through the slides

    Pretty useless. Granted - I didn't listed to the speech - but the slides aren't worthy of anything and only states a) the obvious b) regurgitation of the keynote c) things that aren't at all unique to the iPad

    I'm sure the presentation (in person) was better. But there's no reason to send that slide deck on its own to anyone.

    Required viewing before posting on here? LOL riiiiiight

    re: the preson and "why the iPad is what it is that many people don't get"

    This is a fallacy of those that are VERY pro-iPad. Why, if anyone has a dissenting opinion or criticism are they tagged as someone who doesn't "get it"
     

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