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iPad displays unchanged?

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I finally updated my iPad Retina (I don't know if that's a 2.5 generation or 3rd) with a 9.7" iPad Pro yesterday.

I get why folk don't update their tablets often, only reason why I decided to get a new one is my old models battery life started to plummet. Otherwise I would have kept it. But I'm glad I did update, it's a really powerful little machine!

But I haven't noticed any change in display quality. When I went from an iPhone 4S to 6 8 noticed blues looked richer, there was more colour and contrast. But when viewed side by side with True Tone switched off and brightness set to max both displays look identical. Are they?
 
Although the 9.7" Pro's screen is supposed to be significantly "better", many - myself included - were disappointed that the 9.7" Pro's screen didn't feature higher resolution/PPI than the Air 2.
 
Peter K. said:
Although the 9.7" Pro's screen is supposed to be significantly "better", many - myself included - were disappointed that the 9.7" Pro's screen didn't feature higher resolution/PPI than the Air 2.
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Serious question: what do you need the higher resolution on an iPad screen for? Or do you belong to the 0.0001% that think they are able to see a single pixel on the current display?

When we talk about better displays on the most recent models we can talk about contrast, color accuracy, intensity scales etc. e.g. Nothing that an average user would immediately recognize especially without directly comparing models from different years. The differences can be marginal.
 
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Rok73 said:
Serious question: what do you need the higher resolution on an iPad screen for? Or do you belong to the 0.0001% that think they are able to see a single pixel on the current display?

When we talk about better displays on the most recent models we can talk about contrast, color accuracy, intensity scales etc. e.g. Nothing that an average user would immediately recognize especially without directly comparing models from different years. The differences can be marginal.
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There really isn't a need for a higher resolution but please don't think that there aren't people that can see individual pixels on the current display. I can literally spot a single dead pixel on an iPad from 2-3 feet away.
 
thelead said:
There really isn't a need for a higher resolution but please don't think that there aren't people that can see individual pixels on the current display. I can literally spot a single dead pixel on an iPad from 2-3 feet away.
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Quoted for truth: "Or do you belong to the 0.0001%...".
 
Peter K. said:
Although the 9.7" Pro's screen is supposed to be significantly "better", many - myself included - were disappointed that the 9.7" Pro's screen didn't feature higher resolution/PPI than the Air 2.
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Higher resolution requires more processing power which means shorter battery life. It's a fine balance, and unless you work with photos and video (a lot), most people don't require higher resolutions on a 9.7" screen.
 
Dagless said:
I finally updated my iPad Retina (I don't know if that's a 2.5 generation or 3rd) with a 9.7" iPad Pro yesterday.

I get why folk don't update their tablets often, only reason why I decided to get a new one is my old models battery life started to plummet. Otherwise I would have kept it. But I'm glad I did update, it's a really powerful little machine!

But I haven't noticed any change in display quality. When I went from an iPhone 4S to 6 8 noticed blues looked richer, there was more colour and contrast. But when viewed side by side with True Tone switched off and brightness set to max both displays look identical. Are they?
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I don't dispute that the display is technically superior. But as you observed, it seems to be a paper advantage as personally I cannot distinguish the screen advantage from my Air 2 and 12.9 Pro.

Like this house I'm in, which has gained 40% of its value in the last 13 years with the property taxes to go with it, but it's still the same house.

Screen-wise I believe the real big jumps for the iPad were when they went Retina on the 3, and when they AR-coated the screens on the Air 2.
 
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Cvx5832 said:
Screen-wise I believe the real big jumps for the iPad were when they went Retina on the 3, and when they AR-coated the screens on the Air 2.
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I didn't consider an AR coating! I'm sure that's a huge boost to the display. I was comparing mine in a dark room, whilst viewing the same photos. I've tried again and I still can't see a difference. Even the viewing angle is great on both. Next step is to compare them on DisplayMate.

I mean they're still incredible displays. Even if virtually nothing has changed since the first iPad retina display, it looked outstanding then and the current one looks outstanding now.
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Rok73 said:
Serious question: what do you need the higher resolution on an iPad screen for? Or do you belong to the 0.0001% that think they are able to see a single pixel on the current display?

When we talk about better displays on the most recent models we can talk about contrast, color accuracy, intensity scales etc. e.g. Nothing that an average user would immediately recognize especially without directly comparing models from different years. The differences can be marginal.
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A long long time ago when HDTVs were just starting out, I read an article or study talking about how even indistinguishable pixels do enhance how the image looks. That ultra high resolutions can look "3D". I need to find it again because I found it interesting a time before we had retina displays, and now I only want to read it more.
 
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Dagless said:
I didn't consider an AR coating! I'm sure that's a huge boost to the display. I was comparing mine in a dark room, whilst viewing the same photos. I've tried again and I still can't see a difference. Even the viewing angle is great on both. Next step is to compare them on DisplayMate.

I mean they're still incredible displays. Even if virtually nothing has changed since the first iPad retina display, it looked outstanding then and the current one looks outstanding now.
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A long long time ago when HDTVs were just starting out, I read an article or study talking about how even indistinguishable pixels do enhance how the image looks. That ultra high resolutions can look "3D". I need to find it again because I found it interesting a time before we had retina displays, and now I only want to read it more.
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I believe the original retina iPad covered 99% of sRGB where the new 9.7 iPP is rated for DCI-P3. Here is a picture of the added colors to the display:

fapo_3M01_may2013-LoRes.png


Most colors should be more accurate with greens benefiting the most.
 
thelead said:
I believe the original retina iPad covered 99% of sRGB where the new 9.7 iPP is rated for DCI-P3. Here is a picture of the added colors to the display:

fapo_3M01_may2013-LoRes.png


Most colors should be more accurate with greens benefiting the most.
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Yes I tested my 9.7 Pro next to my LG OLED 4K TV and my Samsung Note 5 both of which feature OLED displays and the Air 2 looks weak and washed out color wise but the 9.7 Pro Holds its own with Rich strong colors and a very bright Display OLED still wins but the 9.7 Pro is No disappointment. Plus the Smart connector and Apple Pencil the 9.7 Pro is "the" iPad to have ever bought.
 
It's probably looks unchanged because apple has kept the same 264 ppi and resolution like all of the other 9.7 in retina ipads....if they increase the ppi you would be able to tell the difference. ...
 
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Peter K. said:
I agree, but shhh...don't say it too loud. The "anything more than Retina is wrong" crowd will attack.
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Hmm, I was only asking a question about displays. I didn't know there was a whole strange argument backstage about the displays, that you seem to be a part of?
 
Dagless said:
Hmm, I was only asking a question about displays. I didn't know there was a whole strange argument backstage about the displays, that you seem to be a part of?
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I started a thread about the lack of a resolution/PPI bump when the 9.7" Pro was announced. Some agreed, but others very "vocally" disagreed. I said my peace and moved on.

I only meant to contribute, in a general sense, to your thread and was, again, told how unnecessary higher resolution is.
 
RedOrchestra said:
You sound totally disappointed ... return it immediately, and get your life back.
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Pardon? I said I liked the display. Please read my post again.

Ah, after reading your other posts you seem to just enjoy trolling others. Guess I'll lose nothing by blocking.
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Peter K. said:
I started a thread about the lack of a resolution/PPI bump when the 9.7" Pro was announced. Some agreed, but others very "vocally" disagreed. I said my peace and moved on.

I only meant to contribute, in a general sense, to your thread and was, again, told how unnecessary higher resolution is.
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Fair enough, I didn't know it was such a big thing. Personally I'm happy with the resolution and battery life combo of the iPad Pro. If they could magic up a better or higher capacity battery without increasing the size or weight to support a higher res I'd be all for that, but this is good enough!
 
Dagless said:
Pardon? I said I liked the display. Please read my post again.
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Actually you didn't say that at all - you said there was NO difference between the iPP and your old 3 display and THE only reason you're keeping it is because the 3's battery has died otherwise you wouldn't.
 
The term retina needs to be defined for every device. iPhones at 325 ppi =10.5" away. iPhone 6/6s Plus 400 ppi = 8.6" away. iPads at 264 ppi = 13.5". I love displays that stay "retina" at all viewing distances. The 6/6s Plus comes pretty close, but you need about 500 ppi to have pixels non distinguishable at all viewing distances. I borrowed an S7 Edge for a week and it most certainly stays retina as close as you can focus your eyes on the display. That's truly a crystal clear pin sharp display in my eyes. I like holding my devices closer though.
 
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fabio.lordelo said:
One good example of how better color reproduction is on the iPad Pro is this image below. Look at it using any iPad model other than the 9.7 Pro or any iPhone and you will only see an organize box. On an iPad Pro 9.7 you can clearly see a logo that's only noticeable on a screen that supports the DCI-P3 Wide Color Gamut as the 9.7 Pro does.

https://webkit.org/blog-files/color-gamut/Webkit-logo-P3.png
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That's interesting, just tried it with my iPP and 6S Plus and, indeed, no logo on the 6S Plus!
 
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