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If you had put a hundred+ hours into coding an application, creating all the artwork, the UI, every aspect of the application, and then put it up on the app store for a meager amount, only to find that some asshat decided to steal it and then crack the application - literally taking money from your pocket - how would it make you feel?

It's not like taking music or videos - where the only one getting hurt is some major corporation (Not justifying that, btw). When someone steals an app from the appstore, they literally take money directly from the developer.

heck, I feel ripped off when I see the insanely high salaries and bonuses of high ranking officials of companies that sell products I buy. I KNOW the product I just bought was overpriced simply so a bunch of "asshats" (to use YOUR phrase) can be fat cats. There are plenty of ways in which we get ripped off. How about the fact I have to pay taxes to support public schools? My kid is long grown up, and besides, he went to private school for several years. the government didn't give us SQUAT for sending him to private school. ie, DEAL WITH IT! :)
 
Jailbreaking won't change hardware limitations.


Even the iphone 3G is hardware capable of multitasking. The only limit is the RAM available, which was fixed with the iphone 3GS which is more than capable of running safari, ipod, beejive and a game at the same time.

What makes you think the iPad isn't capable of this and much more?
 
Developers should really ask apple why they put so much effort in stopping jailbreakers while do put ZERO effort in releasing a new fairplay version for iphone apps.

This is quite an interesting read: http://www.complicatedstuff.com/2009/05/apple-needs-to-play-cat-and-mouse-with.html

I jailbreak for many reasons, none of which is to steal software.
In fact I've already spent 30 bucks in ipad apps before I can even get the ipad (i'm in Europe).

thank you for the post. jailbreak has nothing to do with piracy. also the people who get free apps where never going to buy them in the first place any way.
 
There's a great piece on Gizmodo on App Piracy that states about 10% of iPhones are Jailbroken, meaning 1 and 10 iPhone users has the ability to run pirated Apps. That number usually falls to 5% after an OS update, and slowly creeps back to 10% once a Jailbreak is available for the updated OS.

Further more, they make a great point about those that do pirate Apps:



Article: The Myth of iPhone App Piracy


I jailbreak basically for two things

- SBSettings
- BiteSMS

Apple would probably in the future release some sort of sbsettings functionality, but no way in hell they would allow an external app to replace the messages.app.

I don't pirate apps.
 
If you had put a hundred+ hours into coding an application, creating all the artwork, the UI, every aspect of the application, and then put it up on the app store for a meager amount, only to find that some asshat decided to steal it and then crack the application - literally taking money from your pocket - how would it make you feel?

It's not like taking music or videos - where the only one getting hurt is some major corporation (Not justifying that, btw). When someone steals an app from the appstore, they literally take money directly from the developer.

Agree, I suspect that most struggling developers don't like jailbreaking at all.
I understand people use jailbreaking to do other things, like multi tasking et cetera, but bottom line - it supports piracy.

I suspect if the dev team didn't want to support piracy there would be a way to enable the features they want without borking the copy protection.
 
Agree, I suspect that most struggling developers don't like jailbreaking at all.
I understand people use jailbreaking to do other things, like multi tasking et cetera, but bottom line - it supports piracy.

I suspect if the dev team didn't want to support piracy there would be a way to enable the features they want without borking the copy protection.

jailbreaks by default do not enable piracy.
you have to install a patch app store file in order to install pirated apps.

the point is that this file hasn't changed at all since iphones first introduced the app store. the drm hasn't changed and the file is as easy to patch as it was in day one.

Apple could stop piracy by modifying this mobileinstallation file, by modifying the DRM routines, disabling the debugger so that crackers cannot get the auth keys of each app in the store.

Yet Apple prefers to play cat and mouse and make everyone believe that jailbreaks equals app piracy =)
 
If you had put a hundred+ hours into coding an application, creating all the artwork, the UI, every aspect of the application, and then put it up on the app store for a meager amount, only to find that some asshat decided to steal it and then crack the application - literally taking money from your pocket - how would it make you feel?

It's not like taking music or videos - where the only one getting hurt is some major corporation (Not justifying that, btw). When someone steals an app from the appstore, they literally take money directly from the developer.

So every person that Jailbreaks does it to pirate apps genious?
 
Even the iphone 3G is hardware capable of multitasking. The only limit is the RAM available, which was fixed with the iphone 3GS which is more than capable of running safari, ipod, beejive and a game at the same time.

What makes you think the iPad isn't capable of this and much more?

The iPad is capable of it—everyone with a jailbroken phone knows it, sure. Apple is concerned with the user experience. Simply put: it has to "feel" right.

…but we users just like to jump the gun! It wasn't surprising when we found out that the same widgets used for Copy & Paste were used for the iPad SDK. I salute Apple for taking more time, even if it is frustrating. I will continue to jailbreak everything I own, but I refuse to pirate—Backgrounder and Winterboard are well worth the effort, AFAIC.

For the record: I'm 90% sure that some kind of multitasking is coming to the iPad / iPhone 3g(s) in the next year, and we'll be happy with it. :)
 
Great. Now the pirates can steal the iPad apps I've developed as well. :rolleyes:

Cool, which ones? If they are worth pirating i'll get at them straight away ;-) Joking man. Honestly though, not everyone who Jailbreaks intends to pirate apps. Jailbreaking is most often done for the ability to theme the device with custom fonts, images, icons, sounds etc.
 
You guys are al living in unreality land. I don't jailbreak but everyone I know that does steals apps.
 
I think the pirating of apps was a much bigger problem before they started putting "Lite" versions of apps in the App Store, thereby giving people a chance to try a game or function out before actually purchasing the full version if they liked it.

I have never and doubt very much that I will ever use my iPhone's jailbroken state to use pirated apps. I did it moreso to theme it and have it look how I want it to, rather than like everyone else's.
 
You guys are al living in unreality land. I don't jailbreak but everyone I know that does steals apps.

your living in "unreality land" every person I know that jailbreaks does it for multitasking, themes, bitesms, iblacklist just to name a few. I rarely even hear about pirated apps other then when I read a news story about jailbreaking. Apple should allow apps like the ones I listed in the app store and I would no longer jailbreak.
 
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