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iPad Grabs 89% of Worldwide, 97% of U.S. Tablet Web Traffic

Bytor65 said:
This is the delusion thinking I see from conspiracy theorists and internet fanboys everywhere. Any source that states something they don't like, is somehow flawed. :rolleyes:
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As I said I question the source of how they collected the data. If you collected the data off lets say a sight like MacRumors.com lets be honest here it is going to be way off base in terms of market share since more Apple devices will hit this sit up that what is out there. Or you can go to AndroidCentral.com and it would be way off base in terms of Android devices.

Using Ad data is going to weight the data heavy on iOS devices. Reason for it is that it is fairly easy to install ad blocking on rooted android devices so all those devices are no longer counted.

Just easy metric has its draw backs and will throw data off.

For them it is off the sites own by that company so they could be Apple heavier sites. The fact that they are not listing were they collected the data from and how makes me question how bias it is.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
Yeah I have read threw your stuff and one of 2 things are true.

1. You are lieing and not telling the truth.
2. Your phone is by far and I mean BY FAR an exception and clearly no were close to the norm.

Reason I know one of those two things are true is I do hang out an Android phone that is pretty hard on flaws and I have YET to see a single thing like what you are saying happening pop up which makes me lean even more so to the lieing part.
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This is the problem with Android fans like you! Apple does nothing right and Android does everything right. When someone says something good about Apple they are delusional. When someone says something bad about Android they are lying. You need to grow up. Not everything Android does if perfect.

Why do you come to an Apple forum? You should go bask in your infinite wisdom and Android glory in their forums.

Believe what you like. Everything I stated is the truth. You can google the time zone problem with HTC EVO's and see for yourself.

I just got back from the sprint store. They changed my screen. Said the back light went out. It seems crazy to me that it happened with the push down, but what the heck I can see it again. They also claim the new version 2.3 fixes the time zone issue, that was yesterdays push down. The jury is out on that one. Takes 30 days to show up.
 
RWinOR said:
This is the problem with Android fans like you! Apple does nothing right and Android does everything right. When someone says something good about Apple they are delusional. When someone says something bad about Android they are lying. You need to grow up. Not everything Android does if perfect.

Why do you come to an Apple forum? You should go bask in your infinite wisdom and Android glory in their forums.

Believe what you like. Everything I stated is the truth. You can google the time zone problem with HTC EVO's and see for yourself.

I just got back from the sprint store. They changed my screen. Said the back light went out. It seems crazy to me that it happened with the push down, but what the heck I can see it again. They also claim the new version 2.3 fixes the time zone issue, that was yesterdays push down. The jury is out on that one. Takes 30 days to show up.
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So because I do not use Apple for everything in my life I should not come to an Apple forum and people wonder why Apple fans are so stuck up. I am not the one who is throwing out insults. I do not let people throw out blanted BS about something no matter what OS. I have taken hit at blackberry forums for defending iOS and hitting blackberry (was a blackberry user at the time).

As for Android forums they are not as bad as they are here
For example
OP: Screen Yellow
Response: Happens to everyone wait it out, or it is a minor problem do not worry about it.

Android phones they will try to help solve your problem or join in. Fact that I have not seen your issues pop up tells me a lot.

As for the time Zone issue. Sorry that is a Sprint problem not an HTC or Android OS issue. Unless you changed a setting the default is get the time from the tower. Tower tells everything that you need to know. It pings the tower every so often for an update. Sounds like Sprint has something messed up on your account. Phone is not the problem. I have see AT&T mess up the time before on a phone and it would effect me no matter what phone I ran and it was related to only my account which was 3 different phones, 3 manufactures and and same issue. Pop in my GF sim at the time no issue at all just my sim. After a while it was fixed but still it was an AT&T/Cingular issue at the time.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
As I said I question the source of how they collected the data. If you collected the data off lets say a sight like MacRumors.com lets be honest here it is going to be way off base in terms of market share since more Apple devices will hit this sit up that what is out there.
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You didn't ask how it was collected, you just repeatedly insisted that it must be wrong, and that you already knew it was garbage:

Since the data collection is garbage the results are garbage.
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Comscore exists for precisely the purpose of gathering accurate web data, if you actually cared how it was collected, you could visit comscore and read about it:
http://www.comscore.com/About_comScore/Methodology/Unified_Digital_Measurement

It is pretty clear that they go to great lengths to gather accurate information, probably the greatest in the industry. For you to just blow them off as garbage, is just delusional biased thinking.
 
Now as far as the actual data content. Those numbers are interesting because they show all non-PC device traffic, not just tablets.

That iPad has the ~90% of tablet traffic is just about the least interesting piece of news in that table.

I am much more surprised that in most nations iPad is already 20-30% of all device traffic. Consider the short time on sale, this is much bigger surprise.

I am also surprised how high total iOS traffic is of all device traffic. So much so, that if you doing anything for mobile, you would have to be an idiot to use flash.

The final big one for me, is that I apparently live in iOS Nation: Canada.

Totaling the iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch traffic shows a mind boggling 83% of all device web traffic in Canada is on iOS!
 
Bytor65 said:
You didn't ask how it was collected, you just repeatedly insisted that it must be wrong, and that you already knew it was garbage:



Comscore exists for precisely the purpose of gathering accurate web data, if you actually cared how it was collected, you could visit comscore and read about it:
http://www.comscore.com/About_comScore/Methodology/Unified_Digital_Measurement

It is pretty clear that they go to great lengths to gather accurate information, probably the greatest in the industry. For you to just blow them off as garbage, is just delusional biased thinking.
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The garbage is the fact that they report it like it is a HUGE amount in infomatoin and from there I see Ads as a source. That is going to weight it much more heavily in favor of iOS than Android as you have the adblocking running on Android so they never get counted.

Mix that with alternative browsers running that also going to report false data. I know Dolphin for example reports itself as a desktop to get around mobile blocking.

I still question the results because they do not line up even close to marketshare.
Mix that with a number like 97% also makes the question value.

Rule 1. If something looks funny. 9 times out of 10 it is wrong. 97% is easily in that range of something is wrong.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
The garbage is the fact that they report it like it is a HUGE amount in infomatoin and from there I see Ads as a source. That is going to weight it much more heavily in favor of iOS than Android as you have the adblocking running on Android so they never get counted.
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Again, you are off on a delusional rant based on faulty assumptions rather than reading the details handed to you on a platter.

If you actually read their methodology, they tag both ads and content, which will allow them to gather information on ad uptake/blocking etc.

That will not reduce the hit rate for browsers using ad blocking, because content is also tagged.
 
Bytor65 said:
Again, you are off on a delusional rant based on faulty assumptions rather than reading the details handed to you on a platter.

If you actually read their methodology, they tag both ads and content, which will allow them to gather information on ad uptake/blocking etc.

That will not reduce the hit rate for browsers using ad blocking, because content is also tagged.
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and if the browser is reporting it is from a desktop? That reports back false data.

It comes from where they get it. I posted an example on browser marketshare a while ago. While the precetanages they collected were valid they also where heavily biases and the site knew that when it was posting them. It made a point of putting that information at the top. It listed most of our sites are targets are from the more technical area (geeks) so our results are going to be weighted in that direction. That means FF had much more penetrations in the results that it would from the general public.

I do question it because the results seem way to far out of line. Some number are way to high which leads me to believe that it a lot of that data could be collected from more apple heavy sites. Media picks up on it and goes hog wild to gets hits. They do not care that the information has bias results in it.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
I do question it because the results seem way to far out of line. Some number are way to high which leads me to believe that it a lot of that data could be collected from more apple heavy sites.
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IOW you just assume the numbers must be lower, so you assume their methodology must be wrong because they don't coincide with your assumptions.

So a house of cards based on your assumptions at every step. IOW delusion.

FWIW, comscore also relies a panel of 2 million+ participants that are constantly monitored, and surveys to make sure their web analytics are actually tracking real user behavior. It is cross correlated in many ways.

But hey sure, the most respected web analytics firms out there analyzing multiple correlated inputs, must be making all kinds of rookie mistakes because it doesn't agree with your biased assumptions. :rolleyes:
 
DeathChill said:
Here's another interesting data point for you Rodimus:
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-wifi-use-2011-6

iOS devices connect to wireless networks at restaurants much more then Android devices.
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Honestly those results do not have much more impossible results compared to iPad one.
Also after using both multiple os. iOS is the most annoying about jumping up and down when it sees an open network with a pop up compare that to android most you get is a notication in the bar. iOS hit join andriod easy to join yes but one more step to go threw. Blackberry it well sucks.
If pulling from AT&T it going to be heavier iPhone because of the autolog in for AT&T phone. I know on my phone I tend to not mess with wifi like at boarders because of the extra hoops to jump threw to log into there networks and hitting the stupid agree crap. Starbuck autolog in.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
As for the time Zone issue. Sorry that is a Sprint problem not an HTC or Android OS issue. \.
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Lets see if I understand..... Apple is the evil empire. Google is the savor of mankind. You come into a Apple forum and expect people to bow down to your superior intelligence because you use Android and we use iOS. You believe any issues with Android are not Android but the phone carriers fault. If I google the problem but did not go on an Android forum it is not a real issue.

I bet you are the type who drives a Chevy and goes to the Ford forums and tells everyone how stupid they are for driving Fords.

You talk about hurling insults, it was you who first called me liar. I simply was stating my experience with Android. You can chose to believe it or not, that is your choice. I never called you anything but what you are, an Android fan. That is not an insult but a truth. If you take being an Android fan as an insult then that is your own baggage.

We all use what works best for each of us. For me it is iOS. For you it is Android. I like iOS, you like Android. Grow up.
 
RWinOR said:
To me the web surfing is part of the user experience. My phone just got an update late yesterday afternoon.

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Other issues with Android is all the extra "clicks". For instance I keep GPS off, my phone burns through battery like kids through candy. I have to keep it plugged in.
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How about ringer volume, I keep my phone on vibrate. I hate cell phone ring in the office and since my phone is always with me vibrate works well. The problem is at random intervals, my phone changes ring volume from vibrate to loud, or silent. I do not change this Android does it on its own.
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The update I got last night was the first update I have received since owning the phone. Apple updates much more frequently.
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RWinOR said:
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I just got back from the sprint store. They changed my screen. Said the back light went out. It seems crazy to me that it happened with the push down, but what the heck I can see it again. They also claim the new version 2.3 fixes the time zone issue, that was yesterdays push down. The jury is out on that one. Takes 30 days to show up.
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Though you seem to have a nasty behaving phone, and I am really sorry for your bad experience, it seems like either HTC screw up badly or Samsung made a decent job.

Your user case about GPS and WiFi use - you can switch them on and off via the top drawer. Maybe this is what sometimes happens to your phone vibration, as you can also set this in the top drawer.

If that is too much hassle for you, maybe you should just use the Energy Saving widget. This one is preinstalled on my phone - maybe you just haven't discovered it. This widget triggers WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, Google Sync and has 3 different brightness settings all with the touch of one finger. I don't know, if HTC uses it - but on Samsung it works like a charm.

And did you really just post that you are not on 2.3? Well - then this is clearly a provider problem. 2.3 on the Evo has been ITW for half a year - at least a quick search on Google reveals that.
 
swagi said:
And did you really just post that you are not on 2.3? Well - then this is clearly a provider problem. 2.3 on the Evo has been ITW for half a year - at least a quick search on Google reveals that.
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Thank you for the good advice. I use Juice defender to try to extend my battery life. It seems to help some.

When I went to the Sprint store this morning, the tech told me they started rolling out the 2.3 upgrade on June 8th, based on phone type. Mine was last night. I could tell an immediate difference. I am hoping that my phone will live up to all the claims I have heard about Android phones. I have noticed significant differences already. Not sure if it is better or not, time will be the judge of that one.

The Tech I got today was actually a joy, as you can tell from my post I am not a happy camper about Android, I did tell her right off the bat, sorry for my attitude but my phone has been nothing but a POS from the start. She listened to the issues, fixed them and was pleasant. She was actually a credit to Sprint and the Android community. She worked on my phone and assured me the problems I have been having are now resolved. She did acknowledge that the issues were real, and apologized for my trouble. Had she been my first Android tech I am sure my experience would be totally different.

As with anything, the user experience has to do as much with the support personal and user community as it does with the actual hardware.
 
Anecdote: I'm seeing more iPhones in use in public than I do Android phones, a turnaround since a few months ago. Ignore this if you wish, as it is just my own observation of a few data points that could be coincidental. But that is what I've seen with my own eyes, a rise in iOS share.
 
NebulaClash said:
Anecdote: I'm seeing more iPhones in use in public than I do Android phones, a turnaround since a few months ago. Ignore this if you wish, as it is just my own observation of a few data points that could be coincidental. But that is what I've seen with my own eyes, a rise in iOS share.
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I believe you are correct I have made the same observation here in the Pacific North West. Go to any free wifi location and all you will notice is iPhones, and iPads. One of them is me. :D
 
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