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iPad Illustration App Procreate Condemns Generative AI
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Today in the news - at least in Germany - I will keep it short:
Some Microsoft AI accused a German reporter and writer of child abuse and other horrible things and created texts around him. Reason: He was an investigative journalist in court hearings about child abuse and things like that and signed the texts with his name. So - AI thinking - he was the culprit.
AI is a fascinating opportunity, but this was some key moment, I started to understand Steven Hawkings warning about AI...
Some Microsoft AI accused a German reporter and writer of child abuse and other horrible things and created texts around him. Reason: He was an investigative journalist in court hearings about child abuse and things like that and signed the texts with his name. So - AI thinking - he was the culprit.
AI is a fascinating opportunity, but this was some key moment, I started to understand Steven Hawkings warning about AI...
They can choose to ignore, but it's not going anywhere. The genie is out of the bottle, and it will be embraced. Those ignoring it will be left behind. This is like telephone books ignoring the internet.
I am probably going to get some thumbs down votes for saying this, but I disagree. Generative AI can be useful for enhancing one's work. Creators can choose when to use it, whether it be for removing unwanted objects and/or subjects, replacing the background entirely, generating entirely new work to get some inspirations/starting points, and so on.
That is not to say gen AI doesn't come with many baggages, but when used responsibly, it can be very useful.
That is not to say gen AI doesn't come with many baggages, but when used responsibly, it can be very useful.
I agree, Procreate will likely change its tune in a few years or become a niche tool for creators who want to promote 100% original art.
But even then, human-created art is often built upon previous art and styles—very little is actually 100% original.
Gen AI doesn't mean one would use it to create complete works of art - it can be use to augment or accelerate tasks too.
I've worked on plenty of team projects where one person does one particular part that then gets passed down to the next person in the pipeline to the next and so on until the final output is completed. How is using AI any different? Even if you are a solo designer, you can use AI as a tool in the process of creating your final design.
I can hardly draw a stick figure, but I'm purchasing a license tonight in support.
Nah, the boss is bossying the company, as always
If a graphics tech company wanted to go out of business as fast as possible, you couldn't find a better business model than Procreate's.
Whether or not the company believes AI has value in this space, publicly announcing that they're not going to incorporate it in future software is a sure-fire way to fail. Who's going to buy/upgrade it now? About 50 elderly malcontents still using Intel machines.
Whether or not the company believes AI has value in this space, publicly announcing that they're not going to incorporate it in future software is a sure-fire way to fail. Who's going to buy/upgrade it now? About 50 elderly malcontents still using Intel machines.
Bit dramatic, aren't they? I think once all the drama and commotion dies down, more digital artists will start incorporating AI into their work like they did with every other technology that people once complained "wasn't real art." I know some of them (maybe even a lot of them?) are doing it already, especially the ones in corporate environments.
Still, artists on social media love to gatekeep.
Which reminds me of an old tweet about howA good example of why AI is useful here is instruction. If you are a beginner and draw something, and ask AI to improve it, you can see what you need to do. Like having an expert there all the time to guide you. Just one example.
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Hmm.. drawing a face takes time and education. Now i have to watch youtube to learn. Why not AI to teach me..
Another reason why Adobe will remain king in the professional world for the foreseeable future. If the feature allows designers to work more efficiently they are going to use it.
I also wonder if Procreate simply does not have the resources/developers/lawyers/Adobe Stock Imagery to implement this properly at this time. Integrating AI generative content is tricky from the technical and legal side.
I also wonder if Procreate simply does not have the resources/developers/lawyers/Adobe Stock Imagery to implement this properly at this time. Integrating AI generative content is tricky from the technical and legal side.
I support this and get where he's coming from, but I think it's an uphill battle.
AI is so disruptive and prevalent that it's become part of every creative's tool box.
Knowing where and how to use it will be an important creative judgement call.
AI is so disruptive and prevalent that it's become part of every creative's tool box.
Knowing where and how to use it will be an important creative judgement call.
Can you honestly not see the difference? Your personal example has human beings doing all the work while using AI is all machine…… seems pretty obvious to me. I love that Procreate have said this. A pox on AI. It will destroy what is left of our messed up society.
I already own Procreate, is there some way I can buy it again to reinforce this behavior?
It is an amazing powerful tool for people who are not artists, but working with graphics for various industries like print and signage. Tool is the key word here, it is not being used to create art or in general images from scratch, but to edit and make changes and alterations easy. It has become an essential tool in photoshop when working with images that don't quite have enough image to be usable in the magazine or advertisement it is being used in. Now with some very simple steps with generative AI I can add to a photo that 9/10 looks real, believable and no one would even question if AI had done anything. I am against AI for creating art in any form, but as a commercial tool it is hard to ignore. At the end of the day one does not have to use AI if they don't want to. There is generative AI in Illustrator and I never use it there, or in Indesign. No one is forcing anyone to use it.
That Procreate doesn't have a subscription model is a plus - that they are not hopping immediately to the AI bandwagon is another plus.
Good for them - the only thing I could possibly see them even utilize is something to streamline Procreate Dreams for animation.
Good for them - the only thing I could possibly see them even utilize is something to streamline Procreate Dreams for animation.
I would love everyone to think about it twice and foresee where we are going. Yet people are too lazy to learn and are just happy to create something without any effort (and also any respect). It's the dumbing-down of the mass and everyone is foolishly jumping in.
Sure AI can do incredible things and be very useful, the issue is that humans are using it. It will eventually just go wrong. Unless we control its use and create some laws which seems impossible.
I love Procreate's statement, but I'm afraid this perspective won't last long.
And if AI could spare myself from rolling my eyes whenever I read statement like "you have to learn to use it you'll be left behind" (entering a prompt, so much to learn, above all if you're already a digital artist with some background) or "artists are always inspired by something" (this comparison is completely insane)...
Sure AI can do incredible things and be very useful, the issue is that humans are using it. It will eventually just go wrong. Unless we control its use and create some laws which seems impossible.
I love Procreate's statement, but I'm afraid this perspective won't last long.
And if AI could spare myself from rolling my eyes whenever I read statement like "you have to learn to use it you'll be left behind" (entering a prompt, so much to learn, above all if you're already a digital artist with some background) or "artists are always inspired by something" (this comparison is completely insane)...
So how long before she is forced out at company? Isn’t Procreate publicly owned?
One can wonder how long before someone attempts a hostile takeover to force the integration of generative AI into the app.
(IMO, I use generative AI solely for ideas and brainstorming and references. Everything else, art style and drawing is original. Never use AI and call it your own work because that’s stealing)
I absolutely love Procreate for making this stand. They are fairly uniquely situated to make this sort of announcement at this point, but I sincerely hope this bubble pops sooner rather than later. AI slop needs to die asap.