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the leaks are starting
 
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If this is a case for the upcoming mini...i guess they are keeping the headphone jack. The case edges still look curved, or do they? Trying to figure what the cutout on the right side is. It doesn’t correspond to anything on the current ipad mini. In fact, it looks like where the charging surface is on the new pros. Apple pencil 2 support? Hmmm. Interesting. Either that or the old style smart connector? But would Apple make a keyboard for the mini?? I know a lot of 3rd party cases for the current ipad pros jumped the gun, and couldnt charge the new apple pencil...so maybe this is them jumping the gun again?
 
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a SIM tray, maybe?


iPad mini 4

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Could be. But the sim tray on the current mini is on the other side, and not in the middle either. Plus most cases usually don’t leave a cut out for the sim tray since they are for both the wifi and cellular models. I dunno. Looking forward to more leaks as production of the new mini ramps up.
 
I have a Mini 4 and the only way I'm upgrading is if the Mini 5 has a DCI P3 display which has a 0.01% chance of happening. The Mini 4 is still extremely capable in its own right and can run new and demanding games like Grimvalor smoothly (for the most part).

My guess is the Mini 5 will have the following upgrades:
- A11 or A12 processor (most likely the A11)
- Better rear cameras (probably the same ones as on the iPhone X)
- Apple Pencil support
- Slightly smaller bezels vs Mini 4

To hit a lower price point, Mini 5 will quite likely retain the following features:
- TouchID (no FaceID)
- Same display as Mini 4
- Same battery life as Mini 4
- Same 2GB RAM as Mini 4
- 64GB basic storage config, up-sell to 256GB (no 128GB version)

All of the above are simply my guess based on what Apple's done in the past and their unwillingness to give the "mini" line best in class tech in order to hit a lower price point.
 
I have a Mini 4 and the only way I'm upgrading is if the Mini 5 has a DCI P3 display which has a 0.01% chance of happening. The Mini 4 is still extremely capable in its own right and can run new and demanding games like Grimvalor smoothly (for the most part).

My guess is the Mini 5 will have the following upgrades:
- A11 or A12 processor (most likely the A11)
- Better rear cameras (probably the same ones as on the iPhone X)
- Apple Pencil support
- Slightly smaller bezels vs Mini 4

To hit a lower price point, Mini 5 will quite likely retain the following features:
- TouchID (no FaceID)
- Same display as Mini 4
- Same battery life as Mini 4
- Same 2GB RAM as Mini 4
- 64GB basic storage config, up-sell to 256GB (no 128GB version)

All of the above are simply my guess based on what Apple's done in the past and their unwillingness to give the "mini" line best in class tech in order to hit a lower price point.

2GB is madness with RAM prices falling again! Apple should at least future proof it for a couple of years with 4GB! It only $20 more in price for DDR4! 2019 will be release of DDR5!
 
2GB is madness with RAM prices falling again! Apple should at least future proof it for a couple of years with 4GB! It only $20 more in price for DDR4! 2019 will be release of DDR5!
There's no such thing as "future proof". That phrase is always misused in the context of Apple products.

Regarding RAM capacity, people are simply looking at raw numbers and drawing simple conclusions. Does anyone know if iOS handles RAM in an identical manner in a 2GB system as a 4GB system?

Apple released a new iPad in 2018 with 2GB RAM. They did that with the expectation that it will be a sufficient amount of RAM for the next "n" years of typical use. 2GB RAM in and of itself is NOT an indicator of a devices longevity. The missing piece is Apple's product plans for the next 2-5 years. If Apple continues to clean up iOS, 2GB RAM can continue to be sufficient for quite some time. Yes, more is better, but not having more doesn't mean it will not be good.

Some may point to Safari tabs reloading on 2GB iOS devices. From day-1 of my 4GB equipped 12.9 Pro, I experienced regular tab reloads with only a single tab open. I've never experienced that no-tab-reload utopia that others have.

The "only" things that Apple would need to do for a mini 5, IMO, are...
update the processor, add support for the Apple Pencil 1 / Logitech Crayon. Keep everything else the same and it'll be fine.
 
I have a Mini 4 and the only way I'm upgrading is if the Mini 5 has a DCI P3 display which has a 0.01% chance of happening. The Mini 4 is still extremely capable in its own right and can run new and demanding games like Grimvalor smoothly (for the most part).

My guess is the Mini 5 will have the following upgrades:
- A11 or A12 processor (most likely the A11)
- Better rear cameras (probably the same ones as on the iPhone X)
- Apple Pencil support
- Slightly smaller bezels vs Mini 4

To hit a lower price point, Mini 5 will quite likely retain the following features:
- TouchID (no FaceID)
- Same display as Mini 4
- Same battery life as Mini 4
- Same 2GB RAM as Mini 4
- 64GB basic storage config, up-sell to 256GB (no 128GB version)

All of the above are simply my guess based on what Apple's done in the past and their unwillingness to give the "mini" line best in class tech in order to hit a lower price point.

I'd take those upgrades in a second, especially if they hit the purported $299 price point. Proc upgrade, pencil support, thinner bezels and I'm ALL IN even if it keeps the same exact screen.
 
I have a Mini 4 and the only way I'm upgrading is if the Mini 5 has a DCI P3 display which has a 0.01% chance of happening. The Mini 4 is still extremely capable in its own right and can run new and demanding games like Grimvalor smoothly (for the most part).

My guess is the Mini 5 will have the following upgrades:
- A11 or A12 processor (most likely the A11)
- Better rear cameras (probably the same ones as on the iPhone X)
- Apple Pencil support
- Slightly smaller bezels vs Mini 4

To hit a lower price point, Mini 5 will quite likely retain the following features:
- TouchID (no FaceID)
- Same display as Mini 4
- Same battery life as Mini 4
- Same 2GB RAM as Mini 4
- 64GB basic storage config, up-sell to 256GB (no 128GB version)

All of the above are simply my guess based on what Apple's done in the past and their unwillingness to give the "mini" line best in class tech in order to hit a lower price point.
I actually believe that they will put an inferior display like they did with the “normal” iPad. By inferior I mean, whitout laminated display.
 
There's no such thing as "future proof". That phrase is always misused in the context of Apple products.

Regarding RAM capacity, people are simply looking at raw numbers and drawing simple conclusions. Does anyone know if iOS handles RAM in an identical manner in a 2GB system as a 4GB system?

Apple released a new iPad in 2018 with 2GB RAM. They did that with the expectation that it will be a sufficient amount of RAM for the next "n" years of typical use. 2GB RAM in and of itself is NOT an indicator of a devices longevity. The missing piece is Apple's product plans for the next 2-5 years. If Apple continues to clean up iOS, 2GB RAM can continue to be sufficient for quite some time. Yes, more is better, but not having more doesn't mean it will not be good.

Some may point to Safari tabs reloading on 2GB iOS devices. From day-1 of my 4GB equipped 12.9 Pro, I experienced regular tab reloads with only a single tab open. I've never experienced that no-tab-reload utopia that others have.

The "only" things that Apple would need to do for a mini 5, IMO, are...
update the processor, add support for the Apple Pencil 1 / Logitech Crayon. Keep everything else the same and it'll be fine.

Apple cleaned up their iOS because pressure from various counties. Apple did not due it for “the user.”.

Having more RAM is always the best option to future proofing ones device. It even better then a CPU upgrade since more RAM makes future apps continue to run on your device and updated browser will too.
 
2GB is madness with RAM prices falling again! Apple should at least future proof it for a couple of years with 4GB! It only $20 more in price for DDR4! 2019 will be release of DDR5!

I'm with you. But knowing Tim Cook and his penny-pinching ways he would never do it for a "cheap" iPad like the Mini.
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I actually believe that they will put an inferior display like they did with the “normal” iPad. By inferior I mean, whitout laminated display.

I think you'll be proven right. The Mini 5 actually has the potential to have a worse screen than the Mini 4 since the display makes up a significant chunk of the price, so it's the easiest place to cut costs to hit a target.
 
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My guess:

iPad mini 5 will have iPad Pro design, with a 9.7 display with mini size.

I bet we’ll see the mini prices around $499-$549 range.

Either way, I’m excited for the mini to launch. I just hope apple does hold back on specks and features (especially on the display)...
 
Any explanation on why Face Id would not come on the Mini 5 ?
Cost is the main reason that a Face ID is left out if Apple going to have a rumor $400 starting price. Kind of a shame making the new Mini a “budget type” version if rumors are correct. Apple should just skip their “budget” model trend and make it a Mini Pro for $800 starting price! I certainly will not buy a “budget” model Mini! Cutting corners on cost and making look nice but the inside are near worthless components is not my ideal of Apple products but it looks like that is Apple’s new business model. Remember, Apple going make it 50+% margin either way, so why not give the buyer a quality product? Remember, iPad already has a budget iPad, no do not make another one in a “budget” Mini size!
 
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Definitely looking forward to the new ipad mini. It will replace my dying ipad mini 2 & compliment my 11” ipad pro which is my workhorse that i use for drawing and editing photos/videos. I will transfer my grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan from my old mini to the new ipad mini. It will become my mobile device since i don’t have a phone. I ditched my phone a few years ago as an experiment and don’t miss it. I can make calls on my ipad if i want, but mostly use imessage and face time these days. And the mini fits right in my cargo pants pocket. Works great.

Personally i would love if the new ipad mini got the pro design with flat edges, apple pencil 2 support, usb-c, slimmer bezels and face ID...lol..but will be happy with any update at this point to replace my ipad mini 2 which is over 5 yrs old now. Even the mini 4 is over 3 yrs old which is why i didnt get one of those.

Another cool thing is if Apple would give the new mini a dual lens camera. Highly unlikely i know, but the ipad mini is the least ridiculous looking ipad to take pictures with. Slightly bigger than an iphone xs max, but super portable, with a bigger screen. The ipad mini could be a great photography tool while traveling. Of course this won’t happen. Lol. Just dreamin.
 
Still hope it is years away now since my purchase of the Mini 4s! Maybe in 2022 timeframe!
 
Any explanation on why Face Id would not come on the Mini 5 ?

No one can confirm either way if face ID would be on the iPad or not. But being that Apple is graduating to face ID across their products and leaving behind touch ID, it depends how much they actually update the Mini (If at all) that it would include Face ID. If treat the Mini as they did with the iPhone SE, which was more budget conscious with the hardware, then it may include touch ID. It’s all variable.
 
My fingers are crossed for:

- A12 processor (A11 more likely though)
- same form factor as the Mini 4 but with slimmer bezel so that the screen can grow by at least 1"
- USB-C

The rest can be the same as my Mini 4. I don't need all this fancy tech, instead I want a really portable device. I had the 11" Pro for a couple of days and returned it since it was too uncomfortable to hold with one hand and impossible to type on with my thumbs since Apple thought it would be smart to remove the split keyboard that was still possible with the 10.5" Pro.

I'm using my Mini 4 for more than three years now and I really like it. I'd upgrade for the mentioned points though and probably be happy with a Mini 5 for the next 3-5 years.
 
I would absolutely buy an iPad Mini 5 pro with cellular. Since that is not going to happen....at least not this year, what is the likelihood 256gb or 512gb unit? It will never happen, but I'd pay for a 1tb version as well. I want to use the mini for off grid navigation while driving through the South West using maps downloaded into Gaia.
 
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It looks like Apple has become gun shy at bringing out luxurious high price items now! So if Apple does which is a big "if"; it will more then likely be a "budget" version of the iPad Mini. That means rock bottom components that are 2-3 years old and the least amount of RAM inside too. So if I were Apple, I just give them an A12 and 2GB LPDDR3, not the LPDDR4 and in middle of 2019 LPDDR5 will be the standard. You can find LPDDR5 on some high end gaming laptops. The buyers will think they are getting a good deal because of the SoC but it is the RAM that drives the iPad in terms of usability. It is a suckers marketing promotion because people will say what is the latest SoC and it the A12 chip so the conclusion it is the latest(best) Mini 5!
 
I think some of you will be disappointed.
A10
Non laminated display
2 gigs RAM
Maybe pencil support.
It’s going to be a smaller version of last year’s iPad
$299
 
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