iPad mini iPad mini, pleasantly surprised

[Dstopsie]

Try and hold your ipad with one hand while reading a book in bed for over an hour... Your arm hurts right?

Now... Do this same with an iPad mini. Better huh?

This is exactly why that I went out and bought the iPad mini because my iPad 4 which i hold it in bed does exactly that it hurts my arm and my hand falls asleep and I'm a side sleeper so I like to lay in bed on my side holding my iPad. While the ipad 4 is an awesome iPad it hurts my hand to use it in bed so I just got my iPad Mini today and I will be trying it tonight for the first time. The Wi-Fi on the iPad mini is just the same as it is on my iPad 4 and also my iPhone 5 so since I use it mostly in a Wi-Fi network I'm very pleased so far with the speed

It may not be for everybody but you know you never know until you give it a try that was my philosophy

 

[LostSoul80]

I would never buy an "acceptable" product.

 

[Yr Blues]

How'd you like the form factor, btw?

I quite liked the form factor, but I like the bigger iPhone button more. The fit and finish is what you expect from Ive. If I were to get one, I'd be 51% for the white and 49% for the black version.

 

[syd430]

Just FYI, portrait mode on the Mini

I thought that its pretty obvious that when I said "potrait mode" I meant "as-is" and not zooming in half the page.

Also, am I missing something or did you seriously just upload screenshots instead of photos? Yes your 1024x768 screenshot renders excellent on my retina display.

The fact that people are actually thumbing up your post is the more amazing part.

 

[ZBoater]

I would never buy an "acceptable" product.

Then wouldn't it be by definition "unacceptable"?

 

[nishishei]

I would never buy an "acceptable" product.

Sometimes I hate Apple users.

 

[Yr Blues]

I thought that its pretty obvious when I said "potrait mode" I meant "as-is" and not zooming in half the page.

Also, am I missing something or did you seriously just upload screenshots instead of photos? Yes your 1024x768 screenshot renders excellent on my retina display.

mini fans treat anyone that disagrees with them like we're android or windows users

 

[ZBoater]

mini fans treat anyone that disagrees with them like we're android or windows users

OMG! A new Apple fan subspecies has been born!

 

[d123]

I thought that its pretty obvious that when I said "potrait mode" I meant "as-is" and not zooming in half the page.

Also, am I missing something or did you seriously just upload screenshots instead of photos? Yes your 1024x768 screenshot renders excellent on my retina display.

First, it isn't zoomed in "half the page", and with regard to screenshots, seriously?

You are showing a little ignorance there, a screenshot is EXACTLY what I see on the Mini screen, 100% accurate with no way of mistake or manipulation.

A photo could be sharpened, it could deliberately be defocused, or even shot slightly out of focus. A photograph would be a completely inaccurate representation.

It doesn't matter what you view the image on, my screenshot will only show the accuracy and sharpness of my screen (the clue is in the name - screenshot). You could have a 10000x10000 pixel resolution to look at it on, but it's the 1024x768 pixels of the screenshot screen that matter with regard to sharpness and accuracy.

Seriously, you are showing yourself up as either ignorant or totally biased against the product without rational thought.

 

[haruhiko]

Go back to the apple store and try and view this site - in portrait mode.

Then, try and read a couple of threads, write a few posts, edit a few of your posts with fiddly errors in the middle of paragraphs. Good luck with navigating through that blurry mess.

Then, try and view a site like theverge (portrait mode, don't forget), nytimes, bloomberg or smh.com.au . Oh yeah you can't actually read anything on their homepages.

While you're at it.. Try and write a few documents and edit a few spreadsheets. Nope not happening.

Now....

Go grab an ipad 4, again hold it portrait mode (with no cases or covers attached) open up a split keyboard and move it 1/3 up the page to use as a thumb keyboard. Then,try and do all the above things... It does them all effortlessly.

I get almost better workflow on my ipad than I do on my laptop. That's including text input, with no accessories.

IMHO all these people that are praising the mini do nothing but watch a few movies and send a few iMessages. Nothing wrong with that if that's all you need it for, but lets be clear - the larger iPads blow it out of the water for getting any real work done on it

People usually praise what they have.

 

[applefan022]

Picked mine up this morning, Can't say enough good things about it, no it's not retina but it's not as bad as everyone says it is. Hope everybody is enjoying their's as well.

 

[syd430]

First, it isn't zoomed in "half the page"

That is not the native zoom in portrait mode. You've zoomed in. I don't need to get worked up over it, because it's there for everyone to see.

It doesn't matter what you view the image on, my screenshot will only show the accuracy and sharpness of my screen (the clue is in the name - screenshot). You could have a 10000x10000 pixel resolution to look at it on, but it's the 1024x768 pixels of the screenshot screen that matter with regard to sharpness and accuracy.

This paragraph is entirely incorrect.

You are completely failing to account for pixel density per square unit of measurement and the normal viewing distance at 20/20 vision.

If I have a very high resolution display, and the pixels that make that resolution are also compacted into a very high density (pixels per inch, PPI), then I am unable to distinguish the individual pixels on my screen of your screenshot if the PPI exceeds what my eyes can distinguish at the normal viewing distance at 20/20 vision. Simply put, your same 1024x768 screenshot covers a smaller area over my monitor as the pixels are compacted closer together, and therefore my eyes are unable to distinguish the individual pixels, making it appear sharp.

Conversely, although you are looking at the same number of pixels on your mini display, they are blown up over a larger physical surface area, and thus less pixels per inch (density), leading you to see the individual pixels (fuzziness) of the same screenshot as the closer normal viewing distance is still not enough to offset the relatively larger loss in PPI

 

[d123]

This paragraph is entirely incorrect.

You are completely failing to account for pixel density per square unit of measurement and the normal viewing distance at 20/20 vision.

If I have a very high resolution display, and the pixels that make that resolution are also compacted into a very high density (pixels per inch, PPI), then I am unable to distinguish the individual pixels on my screen of your screenshot at 20/20 vision. Simply put, your same 1024x768 screenshot covers a smaller area over my monitor as the pixels are compacted closer together, and therefore my eyes are unable to distinguish the individual pixels, making it appear sharp.

Conversely, although you are looking at the same number of pixels on your mini display, they are blown up over a larger physical surface area, and thus less pixels per inch (density) leading you to see the individual pixels (fuzziness) of the same screenshot.

Absolute rubbish, if I take a screenshot of a "blurry mess" or if I take a screenshot of a web page like smh.com.au where "yeah you can't actually read anything on their homepages", no matter how many pixels you have or how much magnification you might apply it would still be a "blurry mess" and if the screen print on a web page was so small and indistinct that it was "unreadable" on my screen, it would still be unreadable on a higher resolution screen.

Irrespective of your resolution, you can only see what was on my screen at the time of the screenshot being taken.

Extra detail cannot miraculously appear on your higher resolution screen.

The rules of MacRumours say I cannot tell an idiot that he is an idiot, nor a troll that he is a troll, so I will say no more.

 

[syd430]

The rules of MacRumours say I cannot tell an idiot that he is an idiot, nor a troll that he is a troll, so I will say no more.

Ok, just keep uploading screenshots from your iPad mini to show how sharp your screen is to everyone. lol

 

[sartios]

Apple should of at least put a 1280x720 display in it, not 1024x768, that is a complete joke to be honest.

 

[rowspaxe]

If you want to get "real" work done, use a laptop.

For every true believer here doing "serious work" on the ipad, the is likely another doing "serious work" on the iphone. The fact that a few are able or willing to make such compromises does not make the ipad a productivity device. However, i respect your right to evangelize for your idiosyncratic point of view.

 

[Dyno-Mike]

Apple should of at least put a 1280x720 display in it, not 1024x768, that is a complete joke to be honest.

Then apps would need to be re-optimised for the new resolution if they did that otherwise there would be black borders around them.

This way at least all apps work same as they did on ipad 2.

 

[syd430]

Absolute rubbish, if I take a screenshot of a "blurry mess" or if I take a screenshot of a web page like smh.com.au where "yeah you can't actually read anything on their homepages", no matter how many pixels you have or how much magnification you might apply it would still be a "blurry mess"

I wasn't going to reply to this, but I can't resistant not correcting you.

Read what you wrote again, especially the part that I highlighted in bold. You zoomed in, what part of that don't understand? You just admitted that you zoomed in to make the text readable.

Of coarse if you pinch-to-zoom, or make the fonts larger in the settings of you 3rd-party browser app it would become more readable. The software is scaling the pixels through multiplication.

Your setting up a strawman argument here. I never said that zooming in or making fonts larger wont fix the situation, I thought that that is super obvious and implied. My original post was highlighting that looking at a website such as smh.com.au (and many others) in the default native view in portrait mode is completely unreadable (the homepage, not the articles), whereas the text is readable on the larger ipads without having to zoom in and out all over the place.

 

[zephyrnoid]

A very reasonable real-world challenge, were it only that it were a challenge between COMPARABLE.
1) I do not advocate this first gen iPad Min. PLEASE wait for the Micra with Retina display.
2) The Mini is a different beast for as you put it, real run-n-gun browsing in tight quarters with one hand on the ipad and another holding a pole in the subway train. Now if they DO u the rez in April, that will be a game changer.
But Oh! Gosh Darn! Nexus7 with 32GB and 3G will be out before then

Go back to the apple store and try and view this site - in portrait mode.

Then, try and read a couple of threads, write a few posts, edit a few of your posts with fiddly errors in the middle of paragraphs. Good luck with navigating through that blurry mess.

Then, try and view a site like theverge (portrait mode, don't forget), nytimes, bloomberg or smh.com.au . Oh yeah you can't actually read anything on their homepages.

While you're at it.. Try and write a few documents and edit a few spreadsheets. Nope not happening.

Now....

Go grab an ipad 4, again hold it portrait mode (with no cases or covers attached) open up a split keyboard and move it 1/3 up the page to use as a thumb keyboard. Then,try and do all the above things... It does them all effortlessly.

I get almost better workflow on my ipad than I do on my laptop. That's including text input, with no accessories.

IMHO all these people that are praising the mini do nothing but watch a few movies and send a few iMessages. Nothing wrong with that if that's all you need it for, but lets be clear - the larger iPads blow it out of the water for getting any real work done on it

 

[mjpearce023]

Apple should of at least put a 1280x720 display in it, not 1024x768, that is a complete joke to be honest.

That is a widescreen format and the iPad is 4:3. Also 1280 x 720 is not that much of difference in resolution and would only make for a slight bump in PPI. They would have to double it to really make a big difference in clarity. It was already mentioned above that they would have to redo all the iPad apps which a lot of Apps have still not been updated for the widescreen iPhone so I really don’t think people would want to wait several months for apps to be redone to work on the iPad mini for a small bump in PPI. They either had to go with 1024 x 768 or 2048 x 1536 so that all the iPad apps would work with the iPad mini.

 

[Dstopsie]

Picked mine up this morning, Can't say enough good things about it, no it's not retina but it's not as bad as everyone says it is. Hope everybody is enjoying their's as well.

My sentiments exactly!!!

 

[Awakener]

It's the same 1024x768 resolution as the existing iPad 2 that Apple currently sells. Not entirely sure how it's supposed to be any more of a problem on the mini than on the 2.

Even so it looks much worse than iPad 2.

 

[cpc12]

It's so annoying to have people compare price with the ****** nexus or kindle.

Those devices cost less because they are less of a product.

You get what you pay for.

Apple will always be a premiere product, you don't like it don't buy it.

 

[Yr Blues]

YR Blues..... Stuff it !!!

fanatics are a rude bunch nowadays

macrumors used to be civil

too many immature people hiding behind anonymity

 

[raccoonboy]

Having read so much crap about the ipad Mini I was expecting it to be "unusable" "terrible" "awful" .....

Well I'm a bit late to the party but went and used one for the first time today....and its fine!...very very acceptable, looked at photos, watched a movie segment, checked some ibooks and surfed the web.

Yes its not quite as sharp as a retina full size model but its really not a big issue, are these people complaining getting paid by Samsung or something?

Stuff your poor color gamut where the sun doesn't shine, I'm buying one.

Are you getting paid by Apple or somthing?

People have their reasons for like or hate things.