HobeSoundDarryl
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So the smaller screens of the iPhone and iPod Touch are "just horrible" for browsing too?
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'iPad Mini' Rumors Revived with Claims of 7.85-Inch Screen
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So the smaller screens of the iPhone and iPod Touch are "just horrible" for browsing too?
It's not a problem with with a 4" smartphone screen and it won't be a problem with a 7" screen either, but Keep trying.
Wait for OS X 10.8 or 10.9, then buy an iMac. Lion makes it look like iMacs are future maxi-iPads in waiting.
LOL... by then the iMAC will support multi-touch.
(But no, it will still be to big and heavy. I want it as thin as the current iPad.)
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I'm not attacking the 30% per se. I merely pointed out that taking 30% of those iTunes transactions is not "very little" as THAT poster implied.
NO, NO, NO!
I do NOT want iPad to fit in pocket!
I do NOT want an iPad I can hold for hours on end like a Kindle!
I want a smaller iPad that is easier (then full size iPad) to carry and use while one the move, even walking.
I needs to be < 1Lb (current iPad 2 Weight: 1.35 pounds (613 g)
(Wi-Fi + 3G model)).
It can loose 1 of 3 batteries in iPad 2 if it provides 6~7 hours of use (over 10 for iPad 2).
I will pay the SAME price as iPad 2, PROVIDED it has extras like the iPhone 4S 8MP camera, tougher water resistant case (being a travel Pad), and 1GB of RAM.
Once you get used to the larger screen of the iPad, it may be hard for you to get used to a Phone's screen for browsing. It happened to me; typing becomes difficult, and having to zoom in and out a lot to read the page becomes a pain.
I may just need to get used to it, but as for now, I certainly prefer to browse on my iPad more than on my phone.
A 5.5" iOS device would certainly be less than a pound... You are delusional if you think you are getting the 4S camera.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
LOL... by then the iMAC will support multi-touch.
(But no, it will still be to big and heavy. I want it as thin as the current iPad.)
Exactly. See the future. There's already been rumors of OS X being developed to also run on ARM processors. If there is an iPad 3 with Retina display, it will be a screen that is currently much higher resolution than the laptop line. If you could run OS X on that hardware too, you could have a hybrid device: iOS for the content consumers, OS X for the content creators. Bluetooth keyboard & mouse and you have a super portable laptop when you need a laptop and tablet when you need a tablet. When talking about A6 Quad Core rumors, people are already asking why they need quad core power in iDevices.
Now, if all that comes together, iMacs of the future could further thin down and what do you have? Lion already appears to be pointing toward multi-touch Macs. If you can run widgets in a dedicated screen, how long until you could run iOS apps in a dedicated screen? Macs get options to run iOS apps and iDevices get options to run Mac apps. Imagine that!
I know my roommate is just waiting for an iPad that small (he wants one for use in his plane and the current one is just too big. He really wants something like 7").
Even I if I had the money might actually consider that a useful size (right now the iPad is so big I feel I'd rather just deal with the extra size/weight and take my 13" MBP for anything I'd bring the iPad too).
Personally, I disagree with Jobs about 10" being the perfect size. I think 7" is much more nice.
Even I if I had the money might actually consider that a useful size (right now the iPad is so big I feel I'd rather just deal with the extra size/weight and take my 13" MBP for anything I'd bring the iPad too).
Personally, I disagree with Jobs about 10" being the perfect size. I think 7" is much more nice.
Well, the fact that my second display becomes useless when running an App in full-screen under Lion, leaves a lot of room for speculation on what would happen next. In the future, my second display may actually be a second computer linked to the primary computer (sort of a mini-farm for the desktop, with no limit to how many you may link together) to behave as one in the sense of file and application sharing.
And thinking about how Thunderbold works, I think that's the main reason why Apple implemented it.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
No argument from me on this: just pointing out how this particular argument against the Fire would seem to also apply to some even smaller-screen Apple products. As is often the case, we're so quick to attack everything non-Apple to the point of offering rationale that then would have to also apply to some other Apple products. At which point, the argument usually goes silent or starts twisting into something else.
Of course, a bigger screen has benefits for web browsing. If this rumor is true though, every pixel a web browsing user can see on a current iPad would ALSO appear on this smaller form factor. The smaller iPad rumor is not getting smaller by cutting away at pixels. It would be just moving toward a "retina" concept: exact same pixels packed closer together. If a user's eyes are good enough, they would see the exact same amount of every web page on this rumored model.
I'd snap one of these up in a heartbeat. 9.7>7.85 is not such a massive change that they could get away with using the same resolution. It shouldn't make anything unreadable. This would be the perfect size for me, iPad just feels a bit bulky for my uses.
And for those of you screaming 'no way Apple would do this' , 'this will never happen'.. have some damn humility, instead of pretending you know what Apple will and wont do. Especially when posters on this board have been so wrong, so many times, about so many things. Yes, SJ did knock smaller tablets. But he also knocked alot of things before Apple came out with competing products (ie. video ipod, etc). For many people, the current iPad might be the optimal size, but for others maybe not. Coming out with a smaller one WILL expand their potential market. Apple adjusts and responds to changing market conditions. They have strong convictions, but won't shoot themselves in the foot because of irrational stubborness, or something SJ said once. And if they do release this next year, it's guaranteed that SJ greenlit it, and is obviously not something they went and did against his wishes when he went out of the picture.
And for those of you screaming 'no way Apple would do this' , 'this will never happen'.. have some damn humility, instead of pretending you know what Apple will and wont do. Especially when posters on this board have been so wrong, so many times, about so many things. Yes, SJ did knock smaller tablets. But he also knocked alot of things before Apple came out with competing products (ie. video ipod, etc). For many people, the current iPad might be the optimal size, but for others maybe not. Coming out with a smaller one WILL expand their potential market. Apple adjusts and responds to changing market conditions. They have strong convictions, but won't shoot themselves in the foot because of irrational stubborness, or something SJ said once. And if they do release this next year, it's guaranteed that SJ greenlit it, and is obviously not something they went and did against his wishes when he went out of the picture.
They should make everything from 3'' iPhone mini, to 13'' iPad MaxHardcorePro
And have models spaced 1'', or even less, apart. Their 5-6'' devices should be called iPhad, as they could be both a phone and a tablet. And also, make the one from six months ago not get the latest OS update. That's the way to get to 50% market share obviously.
And have models spaced 1'', or even less, apart. Their 5-6'' devices should be called iPhad, as they could be both a phone and a tablet. And also, make the one from six months ago not get the latest OS update. That's the way to get to 50% market share obviously.
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Too big??? The charts and logbooks and much larger and heavier. Why do you think American Airlines has been giving their pilots iPads to replace all that heavy paperwork?
The current iPad size is at par with most paper notebooks, books and magazines. Just that one to a bookstore and compare it's size.
It's substantially less than they make from hardware. So it seems unlikely that they will be interested in making a device -- like the Fire -- that is designed solely to sell content rather than to generate profit itself.
This may upset some me saying this:
But who cares what Steve said. Steve was the past, Now Apple are moving onto the Post Steve future & things will obviously naturally change.
Be honest. How many years or decades would you want Apple the company to worry about what someone who used to run the company would think, and not try new things?
All companies need fresh blood and have to change over time.
You can't say, well I'm not doing that as my great great grand pappy would not like it.
But who cares what Steve said. Steve was the past, Now Apple are moving onto the Post Steve future & things will obviously naturally change.
Be honest. How many years or decades would you want Apple the company to worry about what someone who used to run the company would think, and not try new things?
All companies need fresh blood and have to change over time.
You can't say, well I'm not doing that as my great great grand pappy would not like it.
I think you have just gave us all a wake up call. We are here complaining about something we have no power to control. Whether Apple wants to make a smaller or larger iPad, we could discuss here all day, but in the end it's not our decision. We are just speculating based on our own experiences, which for the sake of argument and entertainment are good to share, but beyond that, we have no real influence on what's to come.
Having said that, I'm now really getting back to work!
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I didn't say that AT ALL. You're adding new information to twist it into a different argument. I completely agree that Apple has NO INTEREST in making anything on which they will try to solely make money on their 30% cut of iTunes transactions. First, they don't have to do that. Second, if they wanted to do that, current iDevices would be sold at cost instead of current pricing.
This rumored smaller iPad/bigger iPod Touch is NOT about that at all either. I'm sure that if Apple chose to build this iPad, they would do it with their usual margins in mind. I'm confident that if others can create and sell the hardware at prices below $499 and make a profit (on the hardware itself), Apple can figure out a way to do that too.
The person to which I originally responded was not making such a suggestion either. He simply implied that the 30% cut has "very little profit" in it for Apple and I suggested that a 30% cut on over 3 Billion in revenues is not "very little".
True, most people don't like to follow the same successful path as their predecessors...
Look at what happened to George W. Bush...
Let's all be honest.
Apple could keep the exact same screen res and offer a 7" and a 12" model to complement the current 10" model and all three sizes would sell well.
It would be nice if the consumer had the ability to select the model they wanted for the function they wanted.
Smaller for reading books perhaps
Larger for watching movies & playing games perhaps.
It would not kill Apple to offer a simple choice.
Naturally when the screen res is increased a larger model would be even more viable due to the detail on the screen benefiting from a slightly larger screen.
Apple could keep the exact same screen res and offer a 7" and a 12" model to complement the current 10" model and all three sizes would sell well.
It would be nice if the consumer had the ability to select the model they wanted for the function they wanted.
Smaller for reading books perhaps
Larger for watching movies & playing games perhaps.
It would not kill Apple to offer a simple choice.
Naturally when the screen res is increased a larger model would be even more viable due to the detail on the screen benefiting from a slightly larger screen.
You funny!!
I said I will pay the same as full size iPad, but then you said don't expect to pay less.
Smaller sizes with better features then iPad 2, same price.
It is true more choices = bad, but Apple is very smart in not having meaningless names with 4 digit numbers (look at DeLL!!)
Apples selection is actually very well thought out and easy to navigate, and most important of all, easy to understand!
I a way everyone saw it coming!
Table computers existed since the early 90's, and in imagination longer, but what Apple did was make it USEABLE.
Apple/Jobs, I am sure after a lot of experimentation and thought, found the right combination.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Com'on. Steve Jobs did this himself often. He was notorious for putting down something until Apple's version of that something came out. Then it was "great", "magical", etc. Do a little research. Try searching for "Apple flip flop" for starters and read some of those lists of times when Steve and/or Apple wailed against something until they rolled out an Apple version of it... and then it was the best thing ever (until the next best thing ever was ready). It's not being disrespectful. It's just doing more of the same.