iPad or cellphone?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by rei87, Sep 8, 2010.

  1. rei87 macrumors newbie

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    I'm a college student and i usually have a lot PDF docs to read for school. I have saved up money to either buy an ipad or a cellphone. I own a 32gb ipod touch 3g and a macbook and a dumbphone which really needs to be replaced but I want an ipad as well mainly for its ebook capabilities. I don't want to burn $300 for a kindle or a Nook. I am in dilemma and can't decide what to buy: an unlocked Motorola Milestone or a 32/64gb ipad.

    So, what should I buy first?
     
  2. ngenerator macrumors 68000

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    Two completely different things with two completely different purposes. Which is more important to you, reading pdfs or making phone calls? Not that difficult to figure out...
     
  3. steviem macrumors 68020

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    For me, making calls was always a nasty side effect of the iPhone. So for me it is iPad. iPad+iPod Touch is a pretty nice combination.
     
  4. Q-Dog macrumors 6502

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    I use my ipad all the time, but if I had a touch and a laptop I probably would not have gotten the iPad. There is not much the iPad does that those 2 devices cant do, except maybe iBooks.

    No smartphone for me either. I just want to make calls and would probably destroy an expensive phone in short order while my free phones seem to just keep going and going.

    Of course, this is what works for me. YMMV.
     
  5. mrboult macrumors 6502

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    Well for me the ipad is great but in no way as necessary as my iPhone.

    My iPhone is ALWAYS ON ME and that is the difference. To always have Internet email music and camera in my pocket is so good that two years on I still can't quite believe how amazing it is.

    Love my iPad but I consider my iPhone essential!
     
  6. barkomatic macrumors 68040

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    If I had to choose between the two I'd go with the iPhone 4. The screen is gorgeous, has facetime, excellent cameras. It's a solid product.

    The iPad is great too, but you already have a macbook to read the PDF's on. Also, you might as well wait for the next revision to the iPad anyway at this point--the screen resolution is a bit lacking.
     
  7. torakun macrumors newbie

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    TC, I was just in the same dilemma until about 2 hours ago. Been in this dilemma for over 3 weeks prior that.

    I ended up getting an ipad. Why? because phone serve as a phone. The main purpose it SHOULD do, is to make a call. Frankly, phones are evolving so fast, even as I am typing. There will bound to be a cheap model that you can find that will work to serve its purpose. As for an ipad, for your usage, I'd even recommend it more. You can use it for almost anything reading related materials, and not to mention that the screen is gorgeous too.

    Overall, you STILL have a phone (yes, its old and crappy, but still work :) ), and ipad is actually will add something new to your lifestyle.

    My vote is for ipad.

    Cheers :)
     
  8. Dr McKay macrumors 68040

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    Buy iPhone. Makes phone calls AND reads .PDF's.. This this I recommend GoodReader. ;)
     
  9. gatearray macrumors 65816

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    I keep reading posts suggesting the screen resolution will be "improved" in the next rev. If you feel the iPad screen is "lacking" than so is every other display Apple uses in all of their other products bigger than 3.5"...

    At 132 PPI, the iPad beats all Macs with the exception of the top of the line 17" MBP which has an identical 132 PPI at 1920x1200 and costs around $2500. More to the price than screen size and density, of course, but I think you may see my point.

    There is a reason that the screen resolution on the iPhone was doubled, it was not an arbitrary choice. That reason is, existing apps scale to it perfectly, and they look just like they do on a 3G or 3GS, which is a tad blurry compared to apps designed specifically for the "retina display" on the iP4.

    So as not to screw over all the developers and make yet another screen size for apps to conform to, Apple would need to exactly double the resolution on the iPad, as well. That would be 2056x1536 in a 9.7" panel so don't hold your breath.

    Take a look at all of these "inferior" displays Apple uses in their products. :)

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density?wasRedirected=true
     
  10. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    I am really very confused by this. You say that an ebook reader is what you're looking for, and yet you shun two products which are superior to the iPad when it comes to reading.

    At $139, the Kindle (or $150 for the Nook), you could easily have a very nice ebook reader AND buy a new phone.

    Take it from a very satisfied customer, the new Kindle really is quite impressive for its price point. It offers a great reading experience, and Amazon will convert non-PDFs (and even incorrectly formatted PDFs) for free so resizing, highlighting, the dictionary, and Wikipedia will work flawlessly.

    I just don't think the iPad offers the same value (especially at $600/$700) for a college student.
     
  11. 3lionsbecks Suspended

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    If you have the $500+ to buy an iPad you can really just get the Kindle wifi ($139 not $300 like you think) and buy an iPhone 4 on contract for less than an iPad.

    You can even get other smart phones, such as the Blackberry Curve, for free or $50 on a contract.

    You don't sound like you need an iPad. but you may WANT one!! :D
     
  12. thedoctor9 macrumors member

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    Go for the iPad. Better with the 3G. It can make calls and text too. ALL FOR FREE!!! All you need to pay is $30 per month for the 3G. :D
     
  13. JoJoCal19 macrumors 65816

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    I just sold my Droid X to pay for most of the iPad I'm getting. I've got way too many toys and not enough time. I figured the iPad would make me forget about going back to a Storm :eek:
     
  14. Ciclismo macrumors 6502a

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    AFAIK you can't highlight or add notes or scribble diagrams onto a PDF with a Kindle et al. Or record audio from a lecture which is attached to said PDF or .PPS. Also, can one access online journal services such as JSTOR?
     
  15. EssentialParado macrumors 65816

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    Well said.

    I cant believe he thinks the iPad screen resolution is "lacking". :eek: It's got the highest pixel density of any tablet, and easily of most laptops and netbooks.
     
  16. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    My Kindle (the latest version) can add highlights and annotations to PDFs; I have no idea if the Nook has similar abilities but I would assume so.

    Lectures can't be recorded, true, but for the most part if you are relying on recording lectures, you aren't a proficient notetaker. Besides, the OP has a notebook and I assume he has Word (or another program with a note taking setting that allows for recording).

    As for journals, the OP didn't list that as a requirement, but once again he does have his notebook, and the Kindle has a decent browser (although I will admit Safari on the iPad is far superior in this regard).

    I think that for virtually any academic task, the iPad will be inferior compared to another tool or device. For reading, it loses to e-ink devices, and for browsing databases, taking notes, creating sophisticated documents, etc, a notebook will be vastly superior.
     
  17. Ciclismo macrumors 6502a

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    So because I'm an inefficient notetaker I shouldn't use a tool to supplement my weakspot? Maybe I should quit my degree now, even if I am in my last semester, for I am obviously inferior and incompetent.

    To be honest, I forsee the use of laptops being restricted in the near future, at least in my university's lecture theatres; the sound of a hundred or so students feverously typing away often drowns out the lecturer, and it is only getting worse as more and more use laptops for notetaking.

    True, but as an inbetween device it is great, and you can add to its usefulness through apps such as scientific calculators, graphing apps, medical resources etc. etc., which is something that you may be able to do with a laptop, but I doubt that an e-ink reader would be able to do for quite some time yet.

    In my case my university tries hard to make everything available digitally, from course notes to required and recommended readings, past exams, research articles, such as journals, but many of my lecturers also scan and post a lot of their sources (with permission of course). Which is great, because I have considerably reduced my need for paper and always have everything at hand.

    Additionally, my contemporary politics papers often require ingestion of short films and videos (especially from TED), something I can do whilst waiting for the morning bus.

    I also appreciate that I can use a foreign language keyboard with their specific keys at the touch of the screen as I need to often need to type in German and Italian, instead of having to interrupt my "creative flow" whilst inserting special symbols such as è, ç, ü or ß. I also like that the auto-correcting dictionary changes to the respective language when I change keyboard layouts.

    It's also a nice way to surf the internet, not just for uni. It's nice for general surfing and is coming in handy as we plan our trip for when we move to the opposite side of the globe in December. And before someone mentions Flash 1) I don't miss it and 2) Flash isn't available on eReaders either.

    I appreciate your opinions but as I have shown, the usefulness of the iPad has in my case been validated, and I am sure I am not alone.
     
  18. CalBoy macrumors 604

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    You've inferred too much. I'm only saying that if one has become reliant upon recordings of lectures, then one isn't proficient at note taking because by virtue note taking involves abridging information into relevant and easy to digest segments for review later on.

    Taking an hour to review an hour long lecture isn't efficient, and it isn't going to be beneficial for anyone because when they enter the workforce, efficiency, succinctness, and accuracy matter more than a verbatim record.

    Moreover, this is a tangent that the OP did not bring up. Recording lectures was not on his wish list, and it isn't fair to project your needs into this thread unless they are the same as the OP's.

    Again, unless this is really off topic. Unless the OP says otherwise, I think it's fair to assume laptops are permissible in his classes. With that in mind, there seems to be less justification for spending between $600-$700 on a device that really isn't going to do anything extra for him (differently perhaps, but not additionally).
    For the most part, if the OP takes a notebook to lectures, all of these tools will already be at his disposal. He specifically asked for a reading device, and didn't really single out any other functions he needed (especially because he already has an iPod touch). It seems like buying an iPad in this case would simply duplicate functionality where it is by and large unnecessary.

    All of which is perfectly compatible with an ebook reader other than the iPad.

    This is a key advantage of the iPad, but it also comes with a price tag. Assuming the bus stop isn't within range of an accessible wifi network, you'd be forced to pay for 3G service. At that point, it becomes a cost-benefit question. Is the occasional video at the bus stop worth $15 or $25/month AND the $130 for the 3G iPad over its wifi counterpart?

    This again falls under the cost-benefit question. Conceivably you could also avoid breaking your "flow" by taking notes by hand, or by typing your notes and correcting accent marks after the lecture. I won't pass judgement on whether any particular style is superior, as that depends on the individual, but the point is that there is more than one way to skin a cat (so to speak).

    With the price difference between a $600 iPad and a base Kindle, the OP could buy an iPhone and pay for over 2/3rds of its contract (assuming $25/month on ATT). I think the iPhone offers a lot more in the way of internet accessibility because it has been helpful more than once to me. When I'm at a bar or out to dinner, I will not usually want to take an iPad with me, but the phone is on me 24/7.

    The OP needs a new phone anyways, and I think that combination offers a lot more in terms of utility and cost-benefit.
    Then you've missed the point; the point isn't to validate your (or mine) use of the ipad or other device, it's to analyze the needs of the OP and provide advice that weighs the benefits of various options to help other make a decision.
     
  19. japanime macrumors 68000

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    Seriously?

    I find the screen to be absolutely gorgeous.
     

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