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ebay do paypal, apple don't. acn anyone think of a reason why I might to pay over the odds on ebay rather than buy from apple (or other vendors who don't accept paypal)?
 
I had thought Apple products were covered by Apple for their one year limited warranty no matter where they were purchased.. but then RKpro's comment confused me and I thought I had better check and make sure.

I also thought one could purchase an extended AppleCare plan, no matter where their Apple product was purchased.

When you say 'as long as from an authorized reseller', what happens when someone buys from a private seller? Or do you mean the 'original buyer' must have purchased from an authorized reseller?

What happens in a case where say someone stole a truckload (or even just one or two) of Apple products and sold them to various sources.. and those sources ended up trying to sell them on eBay or Craigslist?

I'm assuming Apple would deny any warranty coverage or opportunity to purchase extended AppleCare on those stolen items, if reported?

So if a person like me buys from a seller on eBay or Craigslist, how would one know if their product can be covered under Apple's warranty, even if it's 'NIB'?

Sellers want to protect themselves as well, and not give out the S/N before they get the money... and buyers don't want to risk shelling out the money before they know the S/N is not on a 'stolen list' somewhere. Sellers start getting paranoid when a potential buyer asks for a receipt and a S/N, and buyers get suspicious if the seller doesn't want to give out the S/N.

It just seems there are SO many scammers out there on both sides now, and when an item is commanding several hundred dollars, I'm thinking it's not worth the risk. It's too bad the scammers ruin it for people who just want to do normal transactions.

The one-year warranty applies to Apple products purchased from an authorized reseller such as Best Buy. If you purchase from a private seller, as long it's not stolen, you should get whatever is remaining on the one-year warranty.

You can buy AppleCare when you purchase from an authorized reseller. As long as you don't try to purchase AppleCare MORE than one year AFTER a private seller originally purchased the product himself, then you should be able to purchase extended AppleCare (again, as long as the item's SN doesn't come up stolen.)
 
When we bought my wife an iPad, we were able to talk the guy from Best Buy into giving us 5% off at least because we had 10% off Reward Zone coupons that had a bunch of exclusions on them, including most Apple products, they were all very specific like iPods, Ipod Accessories, iPhones, Apple Computers etc. The Coupon would not work when he tried to scan it but when I asked him if he could honestly explain how any of the categories applied to an iPad, which is not an iPod or a computer or an accessory, he offer to give us 5% with really no argument at all.

So, if you just can;t stand to pay full retail you might try that.
 
Do eBay give sellers the option of picking countries they will sell to? Like can you list an item as "will sell to U.S, Canada, U.K and EU only?"

Yes they do and it is quite detailed.

My problem in dealing with other countries is customs, even if they dont charge the buyer tax they can delay your package for a couple weeks. No seller wants to deal with that when it will sell inside the us for the same money. Any seller that has dealt with some international situations quickly realizes it isn't worth it.

I just sold a $15 Bluetooth USB stick On eBay to Brazil that took five weeks, even with customs properly declared etc. Seller was hassling me on where it was etc, who would want to deal with a $750 iPad in the same circumstances?
 
ebay do paypal, apple don't. acn anyone think of a reason why I might to pay over the odds on ebay rather than buy from apple (or other vendors who don't accept paypal)?

"At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul." (Billy Madison)
 
Do eBay give sellers the option of picking countries they will sell to? Like can you list an item as "will sell to U.S, Canada, U.K and EU only?"

Yes, you can pick and choose. And as long as it is clearly stated in your settings and/or in the wording within your ad, you have the right to refuse to sell to someone if they bid anyway when it was clearly stated not to bid.
I tried to bid on something recently and the settings automatically refused to accept my bid and message came up saying 'seller doesn't sell to Canada'. I saw another one recently where the seller had the setting set to 'ships to worldwide', and then had a different set of settings listing every country other than the US as 'won't ship to'. It's the seller's prerogative as to where they are willing to ship to. (But it P*SSES me off that there are SO MANY Americans who refuse Canada, as if we're Peru or Islamabad or something!).
A seller can also refuse to ship to those with negative feedback, or less than a certain number of feedback, etc., as long as it's all stated up front.
 
Yes they do and it is quite detailed.

My problem in dealing with other countries is customs, even if they dont charge the buyer tax they can delay your package for a couple weeks. No seller wants to deal with that when it will sell inside the us for the same money. Any seller that has dealt with some international situations quickly realizes it isn't worth it.

I just sold a $15 Bluetooth USB stick On eBay to Brazil that took five weeks, even with customs properly declared etc. Seller was hassling me on where it was etc, who would want to deal with a $750 iPad in the same circumstances?

That is why many sellers won't sell to buyers who have less than a certain number of positive feedbacks. After an international buyer has a few transactions from the US, they will already know about the waiting and that it's out of anyone's control once it's on its way. And they'll already know that they might get charged 'duties' when it arrives. eBay also tells its powersellers to always use the shipping method which gives a delivery confirmation or signature, in order to protect the seller.
 
You get the one year regardless of where you buy it. However, they may ask for the receipt to prove first purchase. Buying from authorized reseller usually gets you the full year even if it's been sitting in their showroom for a year. As long as apple is ok with the receipt you're given all is well.

You can buy AppleCare before the 12 month warranty ends. Again apple may ask for the receipt.

Cheers,

I had thought Apple products were covered by Apple for their one year limited warranty no matter where they were purchased.. but then RKpro's comment confused me and I thought I had better check and make sure.

I also thought one could purchase an extended AppleCare plan, no matter where their Apple product was purchased.

When you say 'as long as from an authorized reseller', what happens when someone buys from a private seller? Or do you mean the 'original buyer' must have purchased from an authorized reseller?

What happens in a case where say someone stole a truckload (or even just one or two) of Apple products and sold them to various sources.. and those sources ended up trying to sell them on eBay or Craigslist?

I'm assuming Apple would deny any warranty coverage or opportunity to purchase extended AppleCare on those stolen items, if reported?

So if a person like me buys from a seller on eBay or Craigslist, how would one know if their product can be covered under Apple's warranty, even if it's 'NIB'?

Sellers want to protect themselves as well, and not give out the S/N before they get the money... and buyers don't want to risk shelling out the money before they know the S/N is not on a 'stolen list' somewhere. Sellers start getting paranoid when a potential buyer asks for a receipt and a S/N, and buyers get suspicious if the seller doesn't want to give out the S/N.

It just seems there are SO many scammers out there on both sides now, and when an item is commanding several hundred dollars, I'm thinking it's not worth the risk. It's too bad the scammers ruin it for people who just want to do normal transactions.
 
ebay do paypal, apple don't. acn anyone think of a reason why I might to pay over the odds on ebay rather than buy from apple (or other vendors who don't accept paypal)?

Having the ability to pay via PayPal could definitely be a factor in why people without credit cards might be willing to pay a little more for that option. eBay intervenes and PayPal intervenes if there is a problem. That 'Square Trade' warranty can be purchased for some things if purchased on eBay too, where it isn't available otherwise. And if a buyer is also going to get whatever is left of the original Apple warranty, plus have the opportunity to purchase extended Applecare, then eBay is a decent risk (IMHO)... just not at Christmastime when a kid's Christmas morning is involved and it's too close to Christmas to deal with an issue if did arise.
 
"At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul." (Billy Madison)
My comment was made after a 6 hour drive home so maybe it was a little grammatically fragmented. However, I reckon that even the occasional bonobo who looks in on MR would have found my comment easy to interpret and enlightening. (BTW, hi bonobos, good to see you here again).
 
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