iPad Pro iPad Pro 11” 2020 - Eye Strain?

[Tagbert]

I thought PWM only happens on OLED displays?

They may be referring to the LED backlight on the 12.9” iPad’s miniLED using PWM. The LCD in front doesn’t use PWM and the 11” doesn’t use the miniLED so the situation is more complex.

 

[Tagbert]

Anyone have any experience with the 11" 2021 Pro? I asked the notebookcheck staff if there was any flickering at all on the 11", and got this reply:

"Short answer: No, no flickering!"

The 12.9" Pro hurt my eyes, so I'm hoping the 11" would be usable.

The 11” iPad Pro does not use the miniLED backlight that does use PWM dimming. The 11” is a regular LCD with a 120hz refresh rate so no flickering.

 

[jimmy_uk]

The 11” iPad Pro does not use the miniLED backlight that does use PWM dimming. The 11” is a regular LCD with a 120hz refresh rate so no flickering.

2021 11" doesn't have PWM but the 2020 11" does 🤷‍♂️

 

[snfrd84]

I noticed when using the 2020 12.9 that my eyes were hurting. Two days in a row during separate times.

Come to find out, I had turned off the True Tone. Turned it back on, no more hurting eyes for me.

 

[jimmy_uk]

Frustratingly the UK refurb store has not had 2018 11" models for months and now Amazon are selling the 2020 models cheap. Even though the PWM is high on this model, I don't think I can risk it. 😞

 

[Momof9]

I have not used my new 12.9" (2021) for a lot of close work - today it is really bothering me. I have wondered if I was having issues before, but did not have a lot of time to play with it..... my 2018 I have no problem with....

 

[jimmy_uk]

So, any verdict on eye strain with the 2021 ipad pro 11" from those who have had issues with other displays?

 

[Mr.Simple]

I use the the new iPad Pro 11 and it makes me also zero problems like on the 2018 version. But i have not use the 2020 version so I can not tell the difference.

 

[mi7chy]

So, any verdict on eye strain with the 2021 ipad pro 11" from those who have had issues with other displays?

No PWM.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple...pple-tablet-sparks-the-M1-Turbo.545894.0.html

Anyway, you have to judge for yourself since everyone's sensitivity is different.

 

[jimmy_uk]

No PWM.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple...pple-tablet-sparks-the-M1-Turbo.545894.0.html

True. Just wondering if the liquid retina/dithering is causing any issue or discomfort from those who have had issues?

 

[TDDM]

So, any verdict on eye strain with the 2021 ipad pro 11" from those who have had issues with other displays?

True. Just wondering if the liquid retina/dithering is causing any issue or discomfort from those who have had issues?

I've tried the 11" Pro 2021 and had the same symptoms as usual. It doesn't have PWM, but seems to have a similar flicker compared to the iPhone XR/11/iPad Pro 2018.

 

[jimmy_uk]

I've tried the 11" Pro 2021 and had the same symptoms as usual. It doesn't have PWM, but seems to have a similar flicker compared to the iPhone XR/11/iPad Pro 2018.

That's not good news. Have you tried the current ipad air? I've had a short play instore and didn't feel any discomfort.

I'm still waiting for a 11" 2018 refurbished restock but may cave and go for the 2021. All signs point to this being a bad idea now so the IPA maybe a better gamble.

 

[calvol]

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread (not sorry), but I just returned my 2021 iPad Pro 11. I was using a 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 previously for years with no issue. With the new pro, even for just a few minutes, I felt pretty bad vertigo, focusing issues, and fatigue.

Side by side, I played the same video on each. Something about the new pro made it hard to focus on the screen. It felt like my brain was being fed too much information.

this happened to me last year when I bought an LG OLED. I returned it for the same reason. I’m fearful I can’t buy any new tech due to these displays or tech driving the displays.

I just bought a 2021 11” iPad Pro, and notice the screen is more grayish than my 2017 10.5”, which has a softer yellow tint, and seems easier to read on. Also the 2017 has rounded edges and feels nicer to hold. Going to do a few more days of testing, but right now, leanin towards returning the 2021 and stay with the 2017 iPad Pro.

 

[wasabah]

2021 11" doesn't have PWM but the 2020 11" does 🤷‍♂️

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My understanding was that the 2020 and 2021 IPad Pro 11 have the exact same display.

 

[jimmy_uk]

My understanding was that the 2020 and 2021 IPad Pro 11 have the exact same display.

There are a few reports of PWM from notebookcheck that don't seem to add up but there are not enough details to scrutinise. They have recorded PWM with the 2020 iPad 11" but not the 2021 11". 🤷‍♂️ Also the contrast ratio for 2018 models is much higher. Not sure about 2020 to 2021, but this shows Apple makes display tweaks year on year.