iPad Pro 12.9 - a failed experiment?

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  1. David58117 macrumors 65816

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    So...anyone else disillusioned by their 12.9 and moving back to something smaller?

    After using the 9.7 for a few days, the 12.9 just seems huge, and I can't think of a use that justifies it. All I wanted was a music writing app on the level of StaffPad (which I loved on my old surface book), and I assumed by now we would have something similar- but all we have feel like toys in comparison.

    I don't use split screen often, but I take a lot of notes, and I'm surprised to find both of those are very capable on the 9.7, at least for my use.

    The gain in portability has been a nice experience too, it strangely feels like I'm using an iPad for the first time.

    Anyone else experiencing something similar?
     
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  3. hanser macrumors regular

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    I am sure there are a lot of uses that justify the larger size, from reading comics to productivity.
     
  4. David58117 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I thought that too, until I actually spent time with the 9.7 doing the same thing.
     
  5. Precursor macrumors 6502a

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    After spending time with the 12.9, I can say that the 9.7 is a long and failed experiment
     
  6. dingclancy23 macrumors regular

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    I think many people will experience something similar as you have with the 12.9 but by no means it is a failed experiment overall. You are just one data point.

    For my data point, the iPad Pro 12.9 has worked extremely well for me. I have a MacBook Air connected to a 27' external display as my desktop setup. When I need a screen bigger than a 13 inch, I go to the Mac, otherwise it is all iPad.
     
  7. sjleworthy macrumors 65816

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    it's absolutely horses for courses.

    For some, including yourself, the 12.9 isnt up to your specific likes and needs. for others it is and surpasses them. mine included.

    This doesnt make it a failed experiment, just means it isnt for you. for me personally, it makes the 9.7 look like a toy.
     
  8. m-a macrumors newbie

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    I have both: an iPad Pro 12.9 and a 12" MacBook. I think that an iPad Pro 12.9 with MacOs would be great. As of now I prefer a 12" MacBook which is more versatile for my use case ...
     
  9. ApfelKuchen macrumors 68030

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    If you mean it's a personally failed experiment... whatever works for you (or doesn't). If you mean to draw a conclusion for the 12.9" as a product? Not so sure. There are times when my iPhone or Watch are the right size, others when my 12.9" iPad is just what I need. Yes, it sometimes seems large compared to my first generation iPad, but there are other times when my 27" iMac fits the bill.

    It's gotten to the point where our various computing devices have become like a set of screwdrivers - when you have all of them at your disposal you choose the one that best fits the screw head, other times you'll make do with whichever one you have at hand.
     
  10. mlemonds macrumors 6502a

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    It is a tough decision. I went from the 9.7 to the 12.9 due to wanting more room for writing notes. I have a 11" air which can be more versatile, but obviously doesn't have touch support and is a bit more of a hassle to connect to the internet when I am out and about. If I really get camped out somewhere and have both, you can find me using duet display with the MBA and the 12.9 Pro which is really nice.
    --- Post Merged, Feb 13, 2017 ---
    amazing analogy
     
  11. ericwn macrumors 65816

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    The forum just recently had a discussion about the device being a success or not. This thread seems alike.
    Personally I'm probably going to buy the next 12.9 inch iPad as I find them more suitable to my needs.
     
  12. DJLAXL macrumors 6502

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    For me, the only negative thing was the lack of file system access. Say I needed to download a song from mymp3pool.com or whatever on the fly (being a DJ) and transfer it my Mac...I couldn't access the mp3 file. Besides that though, I enjoyed the screen size, enjoyed the Pencil and keyboard, but ended up selling it, as it became solely a larger device to do the things I did on my phone (games, browsing, etc).
     
  13. vddobrev macrumors regular

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    I purchased a used iPad Pro 12.9" + smart keyboard a couple of days ago, and I fell in love with it.
     
  14. Jack Burton macrumors 6502

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    12.9 was significantly better for me when drawing, but I wish it was lighter. The Air 2's wonderful weight and balance spoiled me.
     
  15. JeffyTheQuik macrumors 68020

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    I think it's a partially failed product in that not everyone loves it.

    But then, with over 7 billion people in the world, that seems like a tall order.
     
  16. dingclancy23 macrumors regular

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    I agree. There is no such thing as one primary computer for all. Unless you want to use your Mac to call an Uber on the go, unless you really need to, the argument that there is one computer for your life sails out the window.
     
  17. ericwn macrumors 65816

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    I'm not sure I understand. Most people don't feel love for material stuff in the first place. By that logic most products are partial fails, right?

    When you just regard customer satisfaction the iPad forum at least gives no indication that people like their iPad Pro less than other iPads. That's at least the impression I got over the months.
     
  18. joeblow7777 macrumors 601

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    Really? You must live in a better world than I do, because in my experience most people love material possessions way too much. It's the driving force of consumerism. People love their houses, their cars, their cell phones, their shoes, etc.
     
  19. alfonsog macrumors 6502

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    I love mine. I don't have a laptop so it's my traveling computer. Also I put it on my stand for sheet music with pedal bluetooth page turning. The regular iPad was way too small for that.
     
  20. Jack Burton macrumors 6502

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    I had no idea that even existed! That is awesome!
     
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    SOMEWHAT similar... though I would not characterize the 12.9 iPad Pro as a failed experiment.

    I use split screen often. To have 2 full apps side by side is terrific. Most people don't know that on smaller iPads (like the 9.7 Pro) split window does NOT display the full app but a "mobile UI" version of it. ("mobile UI" is my term for it, I don't know what Apple calls it)

    Writing and drawing on the 12.9 Pro is great. So is reading comics and magazines. That works well on the 9.7 too but because many of the magazines that I read are scans of vintage magazines and catalogs, clarity isn't always the greatest on the smaller screen.

    Where I'm disappointed (not disillusioned) in the user experience for the 12.9 iPad Pro:

    1. Selecting and switching apps in split window is quite primitive and a growing impediment to productivity the more that I reply on split window.

    2. Inconsistencies between macOS iWork and iOS iWork. File compatibility is stellar (after installing AnyFont on my iPP and installing the custom fonts that I use) but even with the reduced function set of the new iWork, there are still things that are impossible to do within the iOS version. eg. apply character styles.

      The same holds true for other "Office-like" applications that offer a Windows/macOS version and iOS.

    3. Lack of 12.9 iPad Pro-exclusive features in iOS. The larger screen and resolution offer so much potential that remains untapped.

    4. Lack of additions that would help close the gap in using the 12.9 iPP as a notebook/netbook replacement (without compromising the unique character of the iOS user experience). A system-wide accessible filesystem (no DOCUMENTS is not an alternative), and optional support for Bluetooth pointing devices would've been very helpful. I use my Citrix X1 mouse with Jump Desktop on my iPad Pro and it works great... would love that option to be available system wide.
    With a little over a year since the 12.9 Pro was released, I've come to the conclusion that Apple "rushed" (relatively speaking) it to market... probably in an attempt to slow down or halt the momentum that Microsoft was gaining with their Surface line.

    The 12.9 iPP should NOT have been called "Pro". It should've been called, "Plus". But doing so would not have stopped the speculation that Apple was working on a true alternative to the Surface. By calling it "Pro" they were putting those rumors to bed. They were saying, "This Pro is it. Don't expect anything else."

    Apple is notorious for offering a wide variety of accessories for their devices. With the 12.9 iPP, there is only 2 colors of smart cover, 2 colors of smart case, and 1 color Apple Smart Keyboard. This is quite uncharacteristic of Apple and quite puzzling.

    So where I am right now with the 12.9 iPP is relegating it to be my secondary mobile solution. I've switch to my 11" MBA + iPad Mini 4 as my primary. For notetaking and other tablet-y things, the Mini 4 is adequate and the MBA can easily handle those notebook-y tasks. Together, they're still very portable... granted, not as compact as a 12.9 iPP+clear skin on the back+Apple Smart Keyboard, but the flexibility and function of the MBA+iPadMini combo are well worth the trade-off for me now.

    I still find the 12.9 iPP enjoyable and productive but without advancements in iOS and apps it is clear that what the experience is, is what it is, and isn't going to improve unless something changes.
     
  22. Swisspo macrumors regular

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    Quite the opposite for me. I have had my 12.9 along with the Pencil & ASK since release, & at this point I don't ever think I could go back to a smaller design. My wife has the 9.7'' Pro that she uses for her pharmaceutical studies and media consumption. Whenever I use that one instead of my 12.9, it just feels like I am on an iPad Mini with very little room to work on. I could imagine it being to big of a device for a lot of people, not to mention the underutilized hardware underneath. For me though and my uses, it's been nothing short of an enjoyable experience.
     
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    I bought both the 9.7 and 12.9 at the same time thinking I would use the 12.9 at the house and the 9.7 would be good for the field work. In a week, I returned the 12.9 for another 9.7. This is my preference but I also know many love their 12.9.

    It is great that Apple gives us all choice!
     
  24. ericwn macrumors 65816

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    Sorry might just be me not using the word love to describe when being attached to something.
     
  25. Relentless Power macrumors P6

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    It happens. It's superficial, but I "Love" my
    iPad, iPhone, Apple Watch. We live in a very materialistic society governed by technology for the most part that grants us freedoms and simplicity to access things not possible years ago.
     

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