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Intro
So I have had my iPad Pro for about 2 weeks and wanted to give my review of what I think about it and what I dislike. TLDR: The iPad Pro is simply second to none if you dont need a traditional laptop.
Design
The iPad itself is gorgeous from the polished chamfered edges to the gorgeous new display, every little detail comes together to make the iPad a joy to just gaze at. The weight has not been a large issue, the one time even noticed it was when I was holding it in portrait mode with one hand.
Display
The new display is simply lovely, I wont bother trying to convince you Promotion is awesome, you'll need to see it yourself to believe it. Truetone is a lovely feature and I feel like my eyes are more relaxed when using the iPad now compared to my iPhone and the screen just looks more natural.
Speakers
The four stereo speakers on the iPad Pro sound incredible. Never before has any other device I owned sounded that awesome, even at full volume there isn't even noticeable distortion and instruments and vocals sound crystal clear.
Smart Keyboard
The Smart Keyboard is a a very comfortable keyboard that works well and isn't thick and bulky like some other options but it also lacks backlighting, something that irks me for as much as it costs. If you plan on getting any work done you will need this accessory.
Pencil
The Pencil is interesting, I have not used it a lot since its main purpose will be for class notes, what I have written though is excellent, the Pencil is comfortable and I am able to write surprisingly small given the size of the tip. Drawbacks I have noticed is the Pencil is a little slippery when writing and I found myself having to readjust my hand quite often, although a simple Pencil grip can solve this. The second issue would be battery life, even in standby I noticed the Pencil lost a lot of battery even not in use, luckily it charges insanely fast I'd peg it at 6-8 minutes for a 0-100 charge.
Performance
The A10X in the new iPad Pro is mind boggling powerful. Apps open without delay, Safari opens websites without hesitation and scrolling is perfectly smooth all the time. iOS 10 is a joke on this iPad and iOS 11 will only scratch the surface of what this new chip is capable of. Honestly I am sitting here waiting for iOS 12, that will really bring out the potential of this new iPad.
Battery Life
Even with the Promotion display and A10X monster this iPad Pro is easily able to hit 10+ hour SOT. Sitting here writing this review the battery is 60% with 6 hour 37min SOT. I think in the past two weeks, the lowest its ended with was 30% battery, and that was with 9 hour SOT. Keep in mind though my summer workflow isn't very intense with most of the usage being Safari, Reddit, Twitch and Podcasts app. I also utilize auto brightness and in my room with the light on, the iPad only goes to about 45% brightness, so while the battery life is indeed awesome your mileage will obviously vary. As for charging, I have not bought the USB C fast charge because for me the iPad is easily getting me through a day and the 12 watt charger works fine overnight.
iOS
I love iOS and am not going to detail really explaining it in depth, other then to say it work for some and not for others, and you know who you are. iOS on this 12.9 Pro is really on another level though as far as web browsing and productivity is concerned, even with Splitview you don't feel cramped working in apps. I will say however that iOS still has random glitches and I wish Apple would put some effort into fixing these issues. For example you can be in a app and using it and randomly the entire display will become unresponsive until you sleep wake the iPad again. This issue may be minor but nonetheless irritating if it happens and your in the middle of scrolling though a article or typing a paper. So while iOS 11 may be bringing some great new features to iPad, I really hope Apple can put some effort into these random device "lockups" and "freezes". My iPad, iPhone, and Apple Watch have all had this issue one time or another.
Conclusion
The iPad Pro 12.9 is a amazing device but only if your workflow is possible in iOS, luckily mine is and this iPad has replaced my 2012 MacBook Pro with flying colors. The iPad Pro is significantly lighter and smaller, while providing a lot more performance and much improved battery life with a screen about the same size.
 
I do hope the app makers put some more effort into optimizing for the 12.9" screen size. There are a lot of apps that don't scale well to the screen size (Namely Facebook and Reddit (Narwhal is a great alternative) amongst others).
Facebook is a lost cause I just use the website works great. Reddit I'm holding out for since I really like their simple clean ui but they need to fix the Splitview stuff.
 
Great review

Loving mine with the Smart Keyboard and Smart Cover

I'm sending my MacBook Pro off today so this has replaced my laptop and pro 9.7 which I'm also selling today

Battery life is stunning

Got

17 hours usage
41 hours standby

Before charging it last night
 
Intro
So I have had my iPad Pro for about 2 weeks and wanted to give my review of what I think about it and what I dislike. TLDR: The iPad Pro is simply second to none if you dont need a traditional laptop.
Design
The iPad itself is gorgeous from the polished chamfered edges to the gorgeous new display, every little detail comes together to make the iPad a joy to just gaze at. The weight has not been a large issue, the one time even noticed it was when I was holding it in portrait mode with one hand.
Display
The new display is simply lovely, I wont bother trying to convince you Promotion is awesome, you'll need to see it yourself to believe it. Truetone is a lovely feature and I feel like my eyes are more relaxed when using the iPad now compared to my iPhone and the screen just looks more natural.
Speakers
The four stereo speakers on the iPad Pro sound incredible. Never before has any other device I owned sounded that awesome, even at full volume there isn't even noticeable distortion and instruments and vocals sound crystal clear.
Smart Keyboard
The Smart Keyboard is a a very comfortable keyboard that works well and isn't thick and bulky like some other options but it also lacks backlighting, something that irks me for as much as it costs. If you plan on getting any work done you will need this accessory.
Pencil
The Pencil is interesting, I have not used it a lot since its main purpose will be for class notes, what I have written though is excellent, the Pencil is comfortable and I am able to write surprisingly small given the size of the tip. Drawbacks I have noticed is the Pencil is a little slippery when writing and I found myself having to readjust my hand quite often, although a simple Pencil grip can solve this. The second issue would be battery life, even in standby I noticed the Pencil lost a lot of battery even not in use, luckily it charges insanely fast I'd peg it at 6-8 minutes for a 0-100 charge.
Performance
The A10X in the new iPad Pro is mind boggling powerful. Apps open without delay, Safari opens websites without hesitation and scrolling is perfectly smooth all the time. iOS 10 is a joke on this iPad and iOS 11 will only scratch the surface of what this new chip is capable of. Honestly I am sitting here waiting for iOS 12, that will really bring out the potential of this new iPad.
Battery Life
Even with the Promotion display and A10X monster this iPad Pro is easily able to hit 10+ hour SOT. Sitting here writing this review the battery is 60% with 6 hour 37min SOT. I think in the past two weeks, the lowest its ended with was 30% battery, and that was with 9 hour SOT. Keep in mind though my summer workflow isn't very intense with most of the usage being Safari, Reddit, Twitch and Podcasts app. I also utilize auto brightness and in my room with the light on, the iPad only goes to about 45% brightness, so while the battery life is indeed awesome your mileage will obviously vary. As for charging, I have not bought the USB C fast charge because for me the iPad is easily getting me through a day and the 12 watt charger works fine overnight.
iOS
I love iOS and am not going to detail really explaining it in depth, other then to say it work for some and not for others, and you know who you are. iOS on this 12.9 Pro is really on another level though as far as web browsing and productivity is concerned, even with Splitview you don't feel cramped working in apps. I will say however that iOS still has random glitches and I wish Apple would put some effort into fixing these issues. For example you can be in a app and using it and randomly the entire display will become unresponsive until you sleep wake the iPad again. This issue may be minor but nonetheless irritating if it happens and your in the middle of scrolling though a article or typing a paper. So while iOS 11 may be bringing some great new features to iPad, I really hope Apple can put some effort into these random device "lockups" and "freezes". My iPad, iPhone, and Apple Watch have all had this issue one time or another.
Conclusion
The iPad Pro 12.9 is a amazing device but only if your workflow is possible in iOS, luckily mine is and this iPad has replaced my 2012 MacBook Pro with flying colors. The iPad Pro is significantly lighter and smaller, while providing a lot more performance and much improved battery life with a screen about the same size.

I am not surprised about Apple Pencil battery life when it is not in use. For about 4 days or so battery go down to about 25% or so I had to recharge it but like you said it charged real quick. (I am using 1st gen Apple Pencil).
[doublepost=1498258864][/doublepost]By the way, OP, are you able to hold one hand with iPad Pro for more than 10 minutes?
 
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I am not surprised about Apple Pencil battery life when it is not in use. For about 4 days or so battery go down to about 25% or so I had to recharge it but like you said it charged real quick. (I am using 1st gen Apple Pencil).
[doublepost=1498258864][/doublepost]By the way, OP, are you able to hold one hand with iPad Pro for more than 10 minutes?
Hah yah, Apple Pencil is same btw, hardware itself hasn't changed, and no I dont think I can hold it longer then 10 minutes one handed
 
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Hmm I might have a career in journalism after all :);):D, nah I'm going into IT

So what is your work flow? Please don't say pr0n and macrumors. lol.

Only comment is about your A10X para, each year Apple comes out with a new CPU that blows away the previous generation. If anything, the A11X is what will really take advantage of iOS 12.

Interesting that what is fast today, is slow tomorrow.

Question, what is the weight like for reading eBooks and surfing the web? Comfortable to use while on the train/bus?

I'm ready to pull the trigger on the 12.9 inch, just waiting for funds to become available. :)
 
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Hmm I might have a career in journalism after all :);):D
So what is your work flow? Please don't say pr0n and macrumors. lol.

Only comment is about your A10X para, each year Apple comes out with a new CPU that blows away the previous generation. If anything, the A11X is what will really take advantage of iOS 12.

Interesting that what is fast today, is slow tomorrow.

Question, what is the weight like for reading eBooks and surfing the web? Comfortable to use while on the train/bus?

I'm ready to pull the trigger on the 12.9 inch, just waiting for funds to become available. :)
my normal workflow during school involves a lot of notability xD but this year I'm actually going to try the Notes app since the Pencil works the best and they are adding lined paper and PDF functionality and searchable handwriting. Teachers usually will share a document so I have all those in google docs. I use iBooks for all my textbooks and random PDF, well idk PDF get scattered to be honest some iBooks some notability and some in Google Docs. It's a mess and this year I want to try to keep things more organized. The weight hasn't been a issue for me it's usually sitting on my lap or on my desk so for reading it's fine, the only time I noticed fatigue was holding it one handed. I know we think the A11X is gonna be huge but idk I mean the A10X was such a massive jump from the A9X maybe the A11X is were the change slows to intel pace
 
Nice review.

I can add that because of ProMotion and the beefed up latency with the Pencil, I absolutely love this iPad Pro 12.9". I briefly had a 9.7" iPP back in April, but returned because drawing glass did not feel natural to me. Am I glad I did. Using the pencil now feels much more comfortable and fluid on these new displays. This iPad Pro is giving me confidence to draw regularly and work on improving it too.

Split screen is terrific in assisting with this aspect of my creativity. I love it. I can see using this iPad Pro for many more creative and productive uses going forward.

The speakers sound great. I can keep them on 3 and hear perfectly fine. Love watching movies on it.

Battery life 11.5 hours using Safari, Procreate while in split screen with YouTube, Affinity Photo, watching movies, notes, emails, blogging and posting at forums. I still had 18% left when I plugged it in to charge. Probably would have hit a little over 12 hours had I waited until it reached 10%.

The iPP itself is a bit lighter and carrying it all around the house is pretty great.

Very happy I bought it.

I am returning the unopened 29w charger and lightning cable, as the 12w charges fast enough for me and I am not taking the iPP out of the house.

One quibble, I wish the ASK was backlit. Otherwise, all smiles.
 
Nice review.

I can add that because of ProMotion and the beefed up latency with the Pencil, I absolutely love this iPad Pro 12.9". I briefly had a 9.7" iPP back in April, but returned because drawing glass did not feel natural to me. Am I glad I did. Using the pencil now feels much more comfortable and fluid on these new displays. This iPad Pro is giving me confidence to draw regularly and work on improving it too.

Split screen is terrific in assisting with this aspect of my creativity. I love it. I can see using this iPad Pro for many more creative and productive uses going forward.

The speakers sound great. I can keep them on 3 and hear perfectly fine. Love watching movies on it.

Battery life 11.5 hours using Safari, Procreate while in split screen with YouTube, Affinity Photo, watching movies, notes, emails, blogging and posting at forums. I still had 18% left when I plugged it in to charge. Probably would have hit a little over 12 hours had I waited until it reached 10%.

The iPP itself is a bit lighter and carrying it all around the house is pretty great.

Very happy I bought it.

I am returning the unopened 29w charger and lightning cable, as the 12w charges fast enough for me and I am not taking the iPP out of the house.

One quibble, I wish the ASK was backlit. Otherwise, all smiles.
Yah the drawing is scary how real it is, also yah typing rn in dark guessing and hoping autocorrect catches the mistakes, wish the one hundred seventy keyboard could somehow incorporate backlights.
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I am hoping you would become journalist and interview with Donald J. Trump's true opinion about Apple iPad Pro. :)
He wouldn't even know what it was, ugh don't get me started on him.
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try playing asphalt 8 and you won't get 6 hours
Hah of course I have a gaming pc for my gaming and the one game on my iPad is optimized to hell and doesn't kill the battery any more then a simple twitch stream does, its 2d thoug but still big levels
 
Great review, I'll share my thoughts later, but just wanted to add a quick tid bit regarding the ASK and lack of backlight.

Having only used it since I got my 2nd gen 12.9", I think I'm fine without it being backlit. My hands have adjusted enough to be able to type without needing to look and auto correct is good enough to pick up on most typos. In fact, I prefer typing in the dark myself. I write most of my journal entries before bed in complete darkness.

Even on my old MBP, I used to love the BL feature, but I rarely turned it on in the dark because I didn't like it.
 
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Great review, I'll share my thoughts later, but just wanted to add a quick tid bit regarding the ASK and lack of backlight.

Having only used it since I got my 2nd gen 12.9", I think I'm fine without it being backlit. My hands have adjusted enough to be able to type without needing to look and auto correct is good enough to pick up on most typos. In fact, I prefer typing in the dark myself. I write most of my journal entries before bed in complete darkness.

Even on my old MBP, I used to love the BL feature, but I rarely turned it on in the dark because I didn't like it.
I'm doing that rn and agree i somehow know were the keys are which is weird considering in the day time I have to look at the keys to type hmmm...
 
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Not having backlit keys is ridiculous. Dumb compromise that devalues the experience.
 
Not having backlit keys is ridiculous. Dumb compromise that devalues the experience.

Or give Apple the opportunity to expand on the smart keyboard that could possibly be backlighted in the future. That's Certainly not going to ultimately prohibit the smart keyboard from selling.

Secondly, as bright as the iPad display is, even at a lower setting, I'm actually able to see the attached keyboard just fine with no issues in low light.
 
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My issue with the ASK is how flimsy it feels, how the ?microfibre side gets dirty (matters more in a hospital setting), and the convenience....Taking out a macbook air and opening it is much smoother than the iPad Pro with ASK.

I don't know if there's a better solution and it's not a deal-breaker given I persist with it but it is the part of the experience that feels inelegant and unApple for me.
 
Or give Apple the opportunity to expand on the smart keyboard that could possibly be backlighted in the future. That's Certainly not going to ultimately prohibit the smart keyboard from selling.

Secondly, as bright as the iPad display is, even at a lower setting, I'm actually able to see the attached keyboard just fine with no issues in low light.

Yup. That's gonna come in version 3 then. Just like this time around they thought of users in other countries. In three or four generations it will be a complete product.
 
Or give Apple the opportunity to expand on the smart keyboard that could possibly be backlighted in the future.
Given the high price tag, I would have hoped that Apple would have included features that provided this. I think its really something that they should have included.


Hardly a deal breaker. Not really needed. Not often where you would be typing in the dark where it becomes an issue.
Not a deal breaker, but I find it to be a great feature. I don't type in the dark, but even in low light or dimly lit situations, a backlight is a useful feature.
 
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