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Honestly, the only thing that remains is the design and rear cameras/LiDAR. Otherwise, a new device inside and out. Whether or not those with 2018/2020 iPad Pro feel it’s worth it to upgrade depends on their usage.
I have a 2020 iPad pro 12.9 inch. It's fantastic. It's more than powerful enough for anything I want to do. In fact I was perfectly happy with the 1st generation iPad pro I had before but it died in December and I absolutely could not wait for a new model.
I can't really think of a reason for anybody with a 2020 iPad pro to upgrade except for a few niche cases. But for vast majority of people dumping the 2020 model for the 2021 one would be 100% vanity purchase.
 
I have a 2020 iPad pro 12.9 inch. It's fantastic. It's more than powerful enough for anything I want to do. In fact I was perfectly happy with the 1st generation iPad pro I had before but it died in December and I absolutely could not wait for a new model.
I can't really think of a reason for anybody with a 2020 iPad pro to upgrade except for a few niche cases. But for vast majority of people dumping the 2020 model for the 2021 one would be 100% vanity purchase.
If I'm not mistaken the 2020 models cannot output to a monitor like the new ones can, cannot access external drives like the new ones can, and will reload pages far more frequently, etc.

So I don't think they're a "vanity" purchase at all.
 
But we all know in reality, we are just gonna use this to browse the web and post on Macrumors and social media. We like the potential of what it can do. We might even download and launch LumaFusion just to feel good about ourselves. Our spirit knows deep down a basic iPad 9.7 is more than enough.
I love how you seem to know my exact use case...

Had a 10.5 Pro for a few years until I realized that the screen real estate was lacking when it came to hitting those tiny pitch nudge buttons in Djay. I also understood that I'd gain more writing room when taking client notes during my Zoom calls if I upgraded to a 12.9. Now those pitch nudges are sized in a way that I can continue to keep those two Marcus Intalex tracks in sync and I can actually scrawl more notes before scrolling down. That 12.9 almost recreated a Tesla experience on a recent road trip. While the 2020 is more than enough for my workflow, I'm still finding new ways to push it every day that don't limit it to browsing.
 
If I'm not mistaken the 2020 models cannot output to a monitor like the new ones can, cannot access external drives like the new ones can, and will reload pages far more frequently, etc.
All iPads can connect to external USB hard drives. Only the 2021 adds the ability to connect to Thunderbolt drives. Existing iPads can connect to external displays as well, and even the new ones still have limitations on how they work with these displays. Perhaps that will change when iPadOS 15 is released, but for now, Thunderbolt doesn't really add much to the iPad's functionality.
 
Honestly until they make an iPad that can at least run the full Adobe Suite let alone just running full MacOS I don't see needing to upgrade my 2020 model. And even then I only upgraded my gen 1 12.9 for the Ram increase. It still ran everything lightning fast, though the new pencil performance was a nice improvement.
I got you but at the same time I think a lot of people don't realize that with the iPad you can use Sidecar. With that feature you transform the device to another awesome level.

So for those who want the iPad runs a desktop experience its not created for that reason. It's a hybrid and I hope still remains int that way.
 
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on the apple website it says about the 12,9 iPad Pro 2021:

  • 600 nits max brightness
  • 1000 nits max full-screen brightness;
  • 1600 nits peak brightness (HDR)
So it's the same 600 nits brightness for everyday stuff just like the 11" 2021?
1000 nits for "approved" apps and peak brightness only for a short duration?
You can kinda see this now with the latest iPhones. The “normal” white level is what you see using the device day to day. When you go into Photos and look at pictures that have been taken with HDR, the whites in the photos pop like they’re enabling the additional brightness for the content it’s required for, but otherwise you get the “standard” white.
 
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I don't like their use of "2x Optical Zoom". It's two fixed lenses, and any zoom in between is not optical.
They don’t really say that all the zooms in between are optical, though. Even the Camera interface by default has buttons to snap you between lenses (even though it has that ‘zoom’ dial, too).
 
Yeah this surprised me. I'm far from a pro user but it feels like iPads don't need that kind of power right now. Apple must have some big software surprises in mind, right!?
Well, I can’t speak for the Luma Fusion users, but I know that, depending on the plugin, I can easily push my current iPad to the limit in GarageBand. In the future, I won’t have to flatten any tracks to continue working.
 
Yeah this surprised me. I'm far from a pro user but it feels like iPads don't need that kind of power right now. Apple must have some big software surprises in mind, right!?
Hopefully. Or it could be that they’re just cheap and want to use the same chips in every device for economies of scale.
 
Yeah this surprised me. I'm far from a pro user but it feels like iPads don't need that kind of power right now. Apple must have some big software surprises in mind, right!?

I don't think apples primary purpose was to increase power or connectivity of the iPad with M1, these were side benefits to the primary goal of reduced silicon development, I think the 2021 M1 iPad spells the end on the A-X/Z chip, these were only released every 2 years or so due to being in relatively low demand, now Apple can simply make more M1's for a wide variety of products, I predict the M chip will come to most iPad and the apple TV, just not necessarily the latest version, i.e. in 2 years we'll see an M3 iPad Pro, but maybe an M1 iPad and M1 Apple TV.

The A-- chip will remain but only for iPhone and maybe some entry level iPads.

Don't get me wrong, an iPad O/S update to make full use of the M1 would be great.
 
Managed to buy an open box, brand new, 2020 iPad Pro 12.9 128gb cellular for £640 delivered. I'm very happy.
2018/2020 iPad Pros are still way overpowered for iPadOS and I expect that to remain that way for a couple years still. Remember the A12X/A12Z are more powerful than 90% of most PCs on the market as of 2018-2020 according to Apple literature. Rmember the performance comparisons between the A12X/A12Z and Intel based MacBook Pros… pretty amazing. Now with the M1 and the extra RAM, the iPad Pros have left the chat entirely.
 
I don't think apples primary purpose was to increase power or connectivity of the iPad with M1, these were side benefits to the primary goal of reduced silicon development, I think the 2021 M1 iPad spells the end on the A-X/Z chip, these were only released every 2 years or so due to being in relatively low demand, now Apple can simply make more M1's for a wide variety of products, I predict the M chip will come to most iPad and the apple TV, just not necessarily the latest version, i.e. in 2 years we'll see an M3 iPad Pro, but maybe an M1 iPad and M1 Apple TV.

The A-- chip will remain but only for iPhone and maybe some entry level iPads.

Don't get me wrong, an iPad O/S update to make full use of the M1 would be great.
and while I'm making predictions, the new M1 mac mini will be tiny, basically the volume of the chin of the iMac, it will have external power brick, possible the same as the iMac, could come in multiple colours and will either look like the current apple tv or a USB hub to share the same internal layout as the iMac.
 
I was really considering getting the new one but saw an open box for a 2020 model for a really good price. I figured with me planning on buying an M2 MacBook Pro, I wouldn’t necessarily need an M1 enabled iPad as I just need the iPad to be my secondary device. My MacBook Pro is where I still need the power.
Same here actually, I saw “open box-excellent” from Best Buy at $807 (11” 256gb WiFi-cellular). I have grandfather prepaid AT&T unlimited data which I can’t upgrade to 5G. So I don’t think I can get advantage of it. I can’t wait to get it on Friday.
 
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Any new rumors on the Apple Pencil 3? It was thought to be announced during the last event, but it wasn't. I just bought myself the new iPad Pro (upgrading from the Air 2), and am thinking I would like a pencil to go with it. I'd hate to buy one now and have the 3rd gen pencil be released shortly after.
 
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and while I'm making predictions, the new M1 mac mini will be tiny, basically the volume of the chin of the iMac, it will have external power brick, possible the same as the iMac, could come in multiple colours and will either look like the current apple tv or a USB hub to share the same internal layout as the iMac.
Man, a smaller Mini would be a dream in my performance DJ rig setup. I currently run a headless 2011 Mini and while it is diminutive enough, an even smaller footprint would always be appreciated. Not to forget the massive power upgrade it would be to go from an i5 to an M2!
 
If I'm not mistaken the 2020 models cannot output to a monitor like the new ones can, cannot access external drives like the new ones can, and will reload pages far more frequently, etc.

So I don't think they're a "vanity" purchase at all.
How would the new ones access drives differently than 2020 models? Other than read/write speeds, is there something a 2021 would do that my 2020 can't? I haven't experienced any issues when using the USB-C dongle and a WD external to move files back and forth.
 
If I'm not mistaken the 2020 models cannot output to a monitor like the new ones can, cannot access external drives like the new ones can, and will reload pages far more frequently, etc.

So I don't think they're a "vanity" purchase at all.
reload pages more frequently? that is hardly an issue to justify upgrading. Personally, I've had exactly zero problems with that on my 2020 iPad pro.
Next, 2020 model can output to monitors. It can also use external drives.
 
How would the new ones access drives differently than 2020 models? Other than read/write speeds, is there something a 2021 would do that my 2020 can't? I haven't experienced any issues when using the USB-C dongle and a WD external to move files back and forth.
The only difference would be if you want to use a Thunderbolt drive. Those won't work on anything earlier than the 2021 Pro.
 
Managed to buy an open box, brand new, 2020 iPad Pro 12.9 128gb cellular for £640 delivered. I'm very happy.
Same, though I didn't get as much of a discount as you did, I'm very happy with my 2020 iPad Pro :) Looking forward to years of heavy usage again! Love these discounts. For my usage, I would have been fine with a mini 5.
 
I still have a 2017 iPad Pro and it does just about everything I need. Apple pumps people up when they show woke 20 somethings editing videos on an iPad with a 6k display connected. But we all know in reality, we are just gonna use this to browse the web and post on Macrumors and social media. We like the potential of what it can do. We might even download and launch LumaFusion just to feel good about ourselves. Our spirit knows deep down a basic iPad 9.7 is more than enough. But yes, we just like nice things.

For those still in impulse buy mode, wait a little bit more and you might think differently.
I agree with this. My iPad usage is fairly casual because some apps that I need are available in full only in MacOS, so my work computing gets done on a 2018 15.4" MBP. I don't upgrade devices often, and when I do I'm rarely overwhelmed with the improvements in the new device.

I'm upgrading from a 2017 10.5" iPP because I would like a larger screen, but my 10.5 still handles my computing needs (not to mention the white spot near the home button and the dead front camera, a result of my backing over my computer bag with my truck). I was all set on pre-ordering a 2021 12.9" iPP -- they really do look enticing -- but I keep wondering what I will do with it that I could not do with a 2020 12.9". Would I even notice any difference in display quality unless I'm doing video or photo editing?

And knowing that I can order 2020 12.9 256GB from Costco for $899.00 instead of the $1149 price that Costco will probably charge for the 2021 256GB is appealing.
 
reload pages more frequently? that is hardly an issue to justify upgrading. Personally, I've had exactly zero problems with that on my 2020 iPad pro.
That's just one example of the many benefits of having extra RAM. If you don't need more than 6GB of RAM then more power to you.
Next, 2020 model can output to monitors. It can also use external drives.
The Thunderbolt port now allows the iPad to be used with high speed external storage and even a dock, meaning peripheral use that is closer to a Mac than ever before.

If I understand correctly the 2020 can only mirror output to a screen (with bars on the side), not extend it.

I don't think the 2020 iPad Pros can do this:

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I'd been holding out for exactly these issues to be resolved before jumping in, and now I'm good.

To each their own, though.
 
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