iPad Pro HDR questions...

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  1. iF34R macrumors 6502a

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    So, I'm wondering which HDR movies we can watch on this thing. Only HDR videos we capture on the device, or streaming or imported movies? i.e. Vudu, Netflix, Youtube... etc.
     
  2. gui0312 macrumors 6502

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    I’m curious about this too. I went to the Apple store to check out the 10.5 v 12.9 and tried viewing HDR videos on YouTube but no luck. Does it need to be on the YouTube app? Through Safari it wouldn’t work.
     
  3. iF34R thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I tried, but haven't seen any luck so far. I'm still on iOS 10.3.2 too, so not sure if that has anything to do with it. More info from Apple would have been a plus for sure.

    Also tried some of my UHD titles on Vudu, no luck as far as I can tell.
     
  4. Stefan johansson macrumors 65816

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    UHD is not the same as HDR. HDR has nothing to do with resolution or sharpness,it only affects Color,shadows and highlighted areas in photos/videos,the word HDR stand for High Dynamic Range,which is something used to avoid flattened out colours,get more details and contrast in shadows and highlighted areas,and a larger Color span. The technology to produce videos and photos with HDR exist even in my old iPhone 6. Soo,do not mix up the terminology,as I said,HDR has nothing at all to do with resolution. I guess I know about this subject,been a semi-proffessional photographer/video maker for about 40 years by now.
     
  5. iF34R thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I know the difference. I used Vudu on the off chance...

    Again, Apple needs to be a little more clear on which HDR format can be played, etc. HDR10 or Dolby Vision, etc. Is there any content that the HDR doesn't rely on it also being UHD that can be played on the iPad Pro (2017)? Great, so we have a display that supports HDR. That's all the info I have so far.
     
  6. Stefan johansson macrumors 65816

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    Obviously,you still don't understand. Ever since the 1980s,most color screens had capability to show HDR,including first generations of iOS devices,what you're asking for is something called 4K, which is extra high resolution. HDR mostly affects color and contrast,definitely not resolution. So,what you're looking for is 4K,not HDR.
     
  7. mrklaw macrumors 68000

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    I would guess the youtube app might need to be updated -does youtube even support HDR on HDR TVs?

    Would be good to have a thread with links to demo videos for HDR and higher framerate (can it play back 120fps video?)
     
  8. SkySi macrumors newbie

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    I would say he does understand, it sound like you are talking about HDR in photography rather than the "new" tech found in modern TVs and the new iPad pro which he is talking about. Although HDR and UHD are separate things the 2 have become linked since you don't seem to get any HDR video on most streaming services that isn't also UHD.
     
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    Youtube only streams HDR in VP9, which is unsupported in Safari. I assume you can use Chrome or the Youtube app though.

    I *really* think you need to read up on what HDR is, and when it became available mainstream.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCve7_yAZHFNipzeAGBI5t9g

    The dude abides.
     
  11. iF34R thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I understand it just fine. You're getting out of touch with what I'm asking.

    Thanks for going in detail a little better than I did.

    I tried it on the app, but to no avail. :(
    Yeah, saw that channel, but it doesn't display the HDR side on the iPad Pro. If it does, I'm doing something wrong.
     
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    HDR is not possible with h.264 so we have to wait until iOS 11 for HEVC (h.265). I believe some iTunes content will be HDR by then, other than that I hope it will be possible to play HDR content with 3rd party media players such as MrMC or Infuse. Also I have a feeling that the new Apple TV due in the autumn will also have HDR support and finally 24hz playback.
     
  13. Stefan johansson macrumors 65816

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    The new tech in modern television and video is called 4K,just as I said before. Of course these devices also support HDR,but HDR technology is far from new as it was present in CRT television sets in early 1980s. It's not HDR that's new,it's 4 K.
     
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    You can get HDR in lower res too. The new tech is standard in HDR10 or Dolby Vision. 4K TVs wont do HDR unless 2015 or newer. Controlled with metadata.
     
  15. gui0312 macrumors 6502

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    Well, when I bought my first 4K TV, an 8 bit Sony it was not HDR. Couple of years down the line I got an LG OLED 10 bit which did support HDR.

    https://hdguru.com/whats-a-10-bit-tv-and-is-it-better/
     
  16. Stefan johansson macrumors 65816

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    Well ,no one said that all TV sets have HDR. And besides,I think people here still mix HDR with picture resolution. HDR only affect Color and contrast,and has nothing at all to do with sharpness or resolution.
    The TV manufacturers sales organisations,who are usually not technicians or photographers,has a bad habit of using the wrong terminology as marketing tool. So,what the marketing people say,is mostly plain ********.
     
  17. T-Bob macrumors 6502

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    Just re-read the thread, and it's definitely you that started on the wrong path with UHD. He does mean HDR and was trying UHD video to see if its HDR flags would do anything on the new device. I think we don't need to discuss 4k/UHD any more.
     
  18. SkySi macrumors newbie

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    That may be the case but the OP wasn't asking about 4K. The question is about the "HDR" that is being sold as new in modern TV's and the new iPad. Regardless of whether older screens technically support HDR, the new HDR standard that manufacturers, Netflix etc are selling under the new HDR logo, which only TVs of the last few years support, is what the question is about.
     
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    You don't understand his question, everyone else seems to. Netflix, Amazon, Youtube etc support HDR10, but it does not appear to work on the iPad Pro at the moment. He is NOT asking about 4K UHD content. He is asking, can videos with HDR10 be played in iOS, at a smaller resolution.
     
  20. SkySi macrumors newbie

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    Wow this post has gone really off topic! lol

    Based on another thread I found I get the impression we won't see much HDR content on the Pro until iOS11 comes around.
     
  21. iF34R thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    That's how it seems unfortunately. I'm posting on firecore (Infuse) forums about it, and they are working on it, waiting on iOS11.

    No, we aren't. This isn't about 4K anything. I simply brought it up hoping the meta flags would force the HDR on the iPad Pro (10.5) with iOS 10.3.2. Obviously it didn't work out as I hoped.

    This.

    This.

    and this.. lol.

    I guess this can stay open and hopefully something will come of it. I am tempted to put iOS 11 beta on here and see if there is any benefit with the HDR aspect.
     
  22. Stefan johansson macrumors 65816

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    Read my posts please,I clearly explained what HDR is. When I shoot my own HDR photos/ videos,I get full HDR Color depth on my iPad Air 2.
     
  23. iF34R thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Seriously, I completely understand what you're talking about. We are talking about HDR video streams. C'mon. Can you play Mad Max Fury Road in HDR on your iPad? No, you can't. That's what I'm trying to achieve here.
     
  24. steve dave macrumors 6502a

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    I've never seen any information that the new iPad are even HDR compatible. There is no mention of it on their website or in the technical specs. So, I don't believe they will ever display hdr videos
     
  25. iF34R thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    It was announced in the wwdc.. also:
    https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/5/15732350/new-apple-ipad-announced-price-release-date-wwdc-2017

     

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