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Fantastic review by The Verge. Simply unbelievable that after so many years in the making of iOS it's so limited in many aspects. As a photographer his description of how to deal with file imports to Lightroom CC made me cringe. Because he nailed it with pinpoint precision how awkward the workflow could be at times with the iPad.

And in the comments section, someone else pointed out that after getting past the awkward photo import process, editing them with lightroom on the iPad was actually a pretty seamless process. Better than on a PC in fact.
 
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This is wrong. If Apple can market the iPad as a pc/laptop/computer then it can be criticized or praised accordingly.
Not when the critics have no idea what they're talking about.
So called "Pro users" are the most confused bunch of people this side of the nut house. The iPad Pro, while being phenomenal at what it is designed for, isn't going to replace most true Pro user's laptops. If I can't run servers on it, I can't run code on it, so I can't code, and can't test. The list goes on. But, I don't pretend like this device is supposed to do that.
 
My first computer was the IBM 5150 PC purchased for $3200 back in 1983 (worth $8500 in today’s dollars). Since then I’ve been back-and-forth between windows and Mac platforms more times than I want to remember. I was an early adopter of the Tablet PCs and bought my first pen enabled Tablet PC in 2004. I’ve owned about 10-15 of them over the years including all of the current Surface Pros and Books. I’ve also been a big iPad fan and have owned each generation of iPad since inception including all the iPad Pro models (now writing this on a 10.5). I know I’m not the typical user (have been in business and tech my whole career). But I do understand the unique use case for each desktop OS and tablet OS and their devices. And I think I know when devices excel within their intended use cases and when they fall short. I enjoy using devices in their “sweet spot” of designed usage. I love iPads and Surfaces and have both (for slightly different purposes- with lots of overlap).

In light of all that, I've been eagerly awaiting the new iPad Pro! But I hate to say I was really disappointed to watch the Verge review- and I sadly agreed. I really want all that is great with the new iPad to increasingly live up to the promise to “replace” my at least some other devices (or at least keep getting better). But to plug in an SD card via USB-C and only get a crippled routine to copy to camera roll??!! OMG! I’ll stick with Surface for real work, and enjoy the 10.5 for browsing and light note taking.

I just canceled my order for the 12.9 1TB cellular model with all accessories. What a dud compared to what it could be.

I'm in the exact same boat. I am looking forward to see what improvements Apple can produce with iOS 13 for real productivity and content creation, but the cusp of workflow optimization and versatility (although very much expanded by the USB-C port) is crippling.

As much as I want to give Apple the benefit of the doubt, I tend to see the limitation on external storage connection as a means of driving up profit on up-sold, higher-capacity iPad Pros. I highly doubt Apple would sell many 512GB or 1TB models if the USB-C port out of the box connected to any and all external storage devices. I wish Apple would alleviate this perspective by enabling such features, but until then I feel like profit over function has taken hold at the Apple C-levels.
 
And in the comments section, someone else pointed out that after getting past the awkward photo import process, editing them with lightroom on the iPad was actually a pretty seamless process. Better than on a PC in fact.

Not in a disagreement here. I use Lightroom CC on my iPad Pro as well and in combination with the Apple pencil it's efficient and overall pleasant to use, especially Healing Brushes, etc work great. When on the move hauling my DSLR and lenses along, it would be great if I could leave my MBP at home and use the iPad instead.

But still: someone else mentioned Frankenstein worklflows with the iPad and that's exactly what it is at times.

Apple needs to fix this. And they are obviously aware of it, otherwise they would not offer workarounds like Siri Shortcuts. Unfortunately, as the Verge pointed out, they are half baked and awkward. It's absurd that only one app, the photo app is able to directly import pic files and every other app like Lightroom CC for example, has to make an annoying detour. For a company claiming to make products which seemlessly work, this is rather ridiculous.


So then maybe a laptop is best for him (and you).

Na, i think it's better to criticise the critic and make stupid comparisons like the usage of hammers and screwdrivers. That is how we address shortcomings and move forward [\s]
 
I'm buying a new iPad Pro because I miss having an iPad for reading comics and browsing in bed, but I'm really annoyed they haven't allowed Adobe to speak directly to external storage. When they finally do they'll make it seem like they invented toilet paper, but us photographers have been asking for this kinda thing for years.
 
You incorrectly assume my quote is binary. My quote implies nothing about being a being a replacement for all. You also incorrectly assume my quote is from a customer perspective.
The Jobs quote is dead because it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Almost nothing you wrote has anything to do with what I'm talking about. Perhaps you're confusing me with someone else. If not, you completely misunderstood what you read.
You seem to be the one with binary thinking. I’m not even sure you understand what you’re trying to say.

Here’s what I’m saying, feel free to respond.

1) The iPad replaces a notebook or desktop for some users. For those who need to do what only a notebook or desktop can do, they should buy a Mac. That takes nothing away from the fact that a tablet computer replaces a notebook/desktop computer for some users. Seems pretty straightforward.

2) Far from being dead, Jobs’s car/truck analogy is 100% alive. If you need a $1,000+ truck, buy a $1,000+ truck. If your requirements are satisfied by a $329 car, buy a $329 car. What could be simpler?

Apple understands many users still need Macs, so just within the last year we’ve gotten the fastest all-in-one in the iMac Pro, the fastest ever 13” and 15” MacBook Pros, and now the fastest MacBook Air and Mac mini. Next year iMac and Mac Pro will be upgraded, and likely Macbook as well. Most of the performance gains were very significant, with the exception of the Air, where Apple moved down in CPU class in order to continue to offer long battery life while upgrading to a Retina display.

Apple isn’t ignoring the Mac, and neither are they ignoring iOS devices. They think there’s a place for both, and they’re giving us their best versions of all these products. They’re more than happy to sell you MacOS machines, iOS devices, or both. Why some Mac users don’t understand this, and somehow feel threatened by the iPad, is rather strange.
 
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I am constantly amazed how Macrumors Forum members ignore mobility as a serious profesional feature that helps a lot of work done more efficiently.
Your getting more done on a 12.9" at starbucks than a destop with wacom at a studio?
Doubt it.
 
You can't DFU restore a soft bricked iOS device with another working iOS device so it's not a PC replacement. End of discussion.
 
You can't DFU restore a soft bricked iOS device with another working iOS device so it's not a PC replacement. End of discussion.

Does this actually happen to people on a regular basis? I've probably owned 30 iOS devices in the last 10 years, and can't recall needing this.
 
Does this actually happen to people on a regular basis? I've probably owned 30 iOS devices in the last 10 years, and can't recall needing this.

Seriously? One of the main articles is about iOS update bricking Apple Watch and have also happened to iPhones and iPads. Short of driving to the Apple store, DFU restore is the only self user way to recover after a bad update, to be able to update when low on storage space without having to delete documents/photos, recover from mail app white screening, etc. People who claim they've never used DFU restore probably don't know about it and/or drive to Apple store or ship it to Apple.
 
Seriously? One of the main articles is about iOS update bricking Apple Watch and have also happened to iPhones and iPads. Short of driving to the Apple store, DFU restore is the only self user way to recover after a bad update, to be able to update when low on storage space without having to delete documents/photos, recover from mail app white screening, etc. People who claim they've never used DFU restore probably don't know about it and/or drive to Apple store or ship it to Apple.

Seriously. But you didn't answer my question. I understand why someone would need DFU restore, I'm asking how often this happens to iPhones/iPads. As in percentages of users. More than 1% per year?

The amount of iOS users who have never (and will never) hook their device up to a traditional PC would probably blow your mind :)
 
Your getting more done on a 12.9" at starbucks than a destop with wacom at a studio?
Doubt it.

Doubt it all you like - but the fact that I can sketch concepts anywhere is something that really benefits productivity. By your logic, even laptops shouldn’t exist because “desktops in a studio” are better. Yes - if all you do is work in a studio. On an iPad - I can work anywhere, anytime.

Btw, iPad Pro blows Wacom out of the water when it comes to illustration.
 
Ok, but that doesn't address my point. They switched to USB-C this time, not to a proprietary connector. So you no longer have to buy a "full stock of Apple adapters." You can buy from Anker, from chinese no-name companies, Amazon Basics, Belkin, monoprice, RAVPower, etc.

That belies the argument that Apple did this to make more money on cables and dongles. If that was their goal, they certainly wouldn't switch to a connector that everyone can compete with them for.
There are dozens of brands that also offer Lightning cables. The point is that when you upgrade from a previous model iPad to the new one, you have to buy all the adapters once again because the ones you currently own are useless. Notice that they do not offer a USB C to lightning adapter.
 
No, I'm motivated by the fact that I think the Pencil is the best feeling stylus for illustration and sketching (tried everything from Wacom Pro Pens to Ntrigs) combined with the most optimized software for working naturally and on the go - Procreate, ArtStudio Pro, CSP, Affinity Designer - combined with great reference tools like Notability and Evernote that work best with touch and drag & drop, on an iPad. There really is no better tool out there for that. The mobility and natural workflows are the killer feature: you mention mouse/trackpad support - but that is exactly why I use the iPad instead of something like the Surface. In my work, I want to be able to record ideas and communicate my intentions wherever I am - going from different teams in the studio, working from an airplane or, heck, just leaning back in my couch when I'm physically tired but still need to work. iPad is the only platform that allows me to work in full professional software like Clip Studio or Affinity Designer without the need of a flat surface.

So, is it a laptop replacement? Of course not. But I can tell you this: for a lot of workflows - a laptop is also not an iPad replacement.

The new fully featured Photoshop is another example of this. Smart interface solutions will allow me to do everything I do on the desktop Photoshop - but without the desktop! You're looking at it wrong: would I be faster and more productive with a big desk, a large keyboard, a mouse and a trackpad alongside a Wacom Intuos Pro (and I use all of that on my desk - yup, I actually use a trackpad, a mouse and an Intuos tablet at once)? Most likely. But the point is I can be almost as fast and as productive everywhere else, without my desk.

For a bunch of experts on professionalism, I am constantly amazed how Macrumors Forum members ignore mobility as a serious profesional feature that helps a lot of work done more efficiently.

It's almost like saying that Switch is not a true gamer device, because I can be more precise with a mouse and keyboard on my gaming PC.

Macrumours is basically one giant echo chamber at this point, where Mac productivity is the only thing that matters and everything else is bunk.

Regardless, Apple will just continue to do what they need to do. It’s not as if Apple needs the permission or the blessings of the members here; their sales numbers pretty much speak for themselves with regards to the popularity and the demand for their products.

You can’t fight the future. And like it or not, the future is mobile and wearables.
 
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I’ve heard this argument since the first iPad came out. Like you said though it’s out of Apple’s hands. When I used to work at a big box retailer that sold wireless devices like iPads all day, it was part of my job to get students into iPads for their education, most of them I could because they were doing entry level education and it was no issue (this was even before the files app was released). It’s definitely not Apple’s fault that students in that high up spectrum can’t use an iPad for their daily driver. It’s all those software companies that have had the same software for years and refuse to put the money into R&D and rebuild their OS apps to work fluently and natively on iOS. It just isn’t worth the money to them when it “already works” as is. It’s the same reason the company I worked for refused to update their computers that we sold out, they still worked so why change it.
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The issue with what you’re wishing for here is that it goes back in technology as far as what Apple would ever want you to do. Wanting to backup your iPhone into your iPads memory would completely defeat the purpose of what iCloud was invented for. Apple wants you to use iCloud as a replacement for having to physically plug in your devices, so no, the chances of backing up your iPhone into an iPads memory is extremely slim to none.
I don’t blame Apple, especially since the Pencil is leading devs to develop more advanced apps. The demographic for the iPad is NOT student work. It’s a consumer consumption device. It can’t be recommended for students as their only device, as schools use applications primarily designed for Windows. This is true with my niece in 5th grade and my GF getting her Master’s. The iPad can replace a full computer in certain instances, and some people’s workload can accommodate this, but it’s not what the iPad is designed to do, regardless of what Apple or others try to convince.
 
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