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Discussion in 'iPad' started by mcmonkiez, May 8, 2010.
Video of steve responding or it didn't happen
I struggled to actually understand who was saying what there since it wasn't presented very well. From what I can tell, the message is that even Steve Jobs gets mad at how many people in the UK don't understand tax and our own system.
How come people in the US understand our system when so many in the UK don't?
Sorry dude. I'm with Steve on this one.
I'd imagine Steve's pissed because of the three stories in the press that make the pricing sound bad, and to top it off this guy then emails him directly and hasn't got a clue.
Realistically what was this guy expecting??
Did he really think Steve would turn around and say something like "Oh my God, I'm so sorry you feel that way, let me get this sorted as soon as possible. Tell you what we'll pay the VAT for you guys in the UK, and while we're doing that I'll send you a free signed iPad 64Gb Wifi & 3G to say thanks for letting us know."
Got to say, your post was quite hard to follow, what point was you making to Steve? That it costs too much? From what little info I could get from his reply, if indeed it was him, he told you exactly how it is.
Ok you edited the post, thanks, bit clearer now......but you're still wrong and Steve is right.
We ALL fall victim to VAT. We may not like it but that's our lot in the UK
If I made the monumentally embarrassing mistake of misunderstanding my own countries VAT, and then have someone in the US have to explain it to me, I wouldn't want others to see... but he's posted this here as a new topic. Why? Sucker for punishment?
sorry - but where is the UK pricing confirmed? - when did this come out?
The UK apple site still doesn't show a price - although we are apparently going to be able to pre-order them day-after-tomorrow!
OP, please please tell me you're making this up. It's bad enough that people from my own country are so ignorant of how VAT works that they bitch and whine on web boards even when a price is virtually bang on in terms of parity to US price (especially once you include the additional cost of doing business in the UK). The thought that someone would be stupid enough to e-mail Steve Jobs with this piece of utter crap (bad spelling, incredibly bad mathematics, massive hysterical over-reaction) is just flat out embarrassing.
Lol. Where have you been??
Apple had a press release in 9 countries confirming release date - 28th May and the pricing for all six models.
You can read the press release here:
or there is a story on the MacRumors homepage if you prefer.
But the bits you need are:
16Gb = £429
32Gb = £499
64Gb = £599
Wifi + 3G
16Gb = £529
32Gb = £599
64Gb = £699
Hope this helps
Typical uk'ers always crying that it's rip off britain.
You know what you really should have done... ?
Hang on though. If the wifi-only 16GB model is £429, then 429 - 17.5% is near enough to £422.
£422 in USD is $624, yet Apple sell the exact same model in the US store for $499 ($125 difference) so unless there's something major that I'm missing...
EDIT: Yeah, I did the VAT wrong.... one sec...
EDIT 2: comes to $540. My bad, it seems fair enough.
Is that available on iBooks?? lol
Looks like the OP has removed his post (as best he can at least)
Steve has forgotten to send a
If its to expensive to you do not buy it. I wont buy it eighter, its 1st Gen
we have for every product release and for every product update 5 threads of people complaining about the UK prices. it's getting old. apple charges what people pay. don't buy it if you think it's too expensive. if you think you can get it cheaper in the US due to tax and exchange rate buy it there. simple.
It's very easy - a VAT is designed to be "transparent," so that the purchaser doesn't realize he is paying any tax at all, or at least the exact amount. That is why VATs are evil. The goverment does not want you to understand the "system," because that gives it more power to increase the VAT rate while consumers blame companies rather than the government for price hikes.
OTOH U.S. consumers are quit aware of sales tax because it's tacked on to the price at time of purchase. American's understand that if something has a price sticker of, say $100 they'll need to add in the tax to get a final amount -- and they can separate the cost of the goods from the tax.
On major area in the U.S. where there is a VAT-like tax is gas. Most Americans pay $3 for a gallon of gas and have zero idea how much of that $3 is tax. They just blame the oil companies. The tax isn't even broken out on the receipt as it is with a normal sale of goods.
There's nothing worse than someone who removes their own posts from a forum, especially when they were the start of threads. In the forum I used to moderate, we would remove editing permissions for anyone who does this. If you are ashamed of what you post, don't post it.
Isn't everything in the UK expensive? I had sushi at London Heathrow once and it was like 3 pounds per piece.
I agree with the bridge comment... get over it!
You lost our european sympathy with that
Currently paying around $7 per gallon in Ireland for unleaded
But of course the majority of that is Tax...