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Also, to the original poster... I don't get the big deal in weight. In looking at the iPad 2 versus the same size competitor from Samsung in the 10.1 versus, the difference is 601 grams vs. 595 grams. I wouldn't quantify 6 grams as being a big advantage in being lighter. Completely unnoticeable really.

but the 8.9 inch samsung tablet is 470 grams :p i suppose its 'not fair' when the iPad is 9.7 inches, but still, a 10.1 inch vs 9.7 inch tablet that is roughly the same weight is still good imo.

a 1280 x 800 resolution on a 8.9 inch screen will probably look extremely sharp, and better than whats currently being offered at the moment.
 
Why? For the half baked, one-size-fits-all OS - or the barren app store?

Typical Apple fanatic response :rolleyes:

Android does a lot of things that iOS doesn't and that Apple won't allow. Regardless, it'd be a nice change. The iOS interface is stale.
 
Just too bad they leave the Galaxy Tab 7 owners in the dust
with no updates mentioned at all. At least they could put 2.3 on it.

The new 8.9 looks interesting ,
very thin and light, but Samsung needs to prove they will support a product.

Why worry about updating software when they can release anew iteration of their products every few months?

As much as people here complain about Apple they only give you buyer's remorse once a year; Samsung's perpetual "refresh" almost guarantees that a new model will be out in 3 months.
 
Another who Is a fan of 4:3. Yes, the widescreen is nice to watch movies on, but is that really all you do with your tablet? The 4:3 looks far better when reading a book, or magazine, as well as having a much nicer outlook on the web. In portrait mode on a widescreen device, it is too thin, and you have to zoom in a lot, which isn't great, and in landscape mode, it's nice on the width, but poor on the height. Pictures are often cut off, so you have to zoom out. I'm not a fan, and wouldn't be getting one. If the iPad was widescreen I wouldn't but it either.
 
Another who Is a fan of 4:3. Yes, the widescreen is nice to watch movies on, but is that really all you do with your tablet? The 4:3 looks far better when reading a book, or magazine, as well as having a much nicer outlook on the web. In portrait mode on a widescreen device, it is too thin, and you have to zoom in a lot, which isn't great, and in landscape mode, it's nice on the width, but poor on the height. Pictures are often cut off, so you have to zoom out. I'm not a fan, and wouldn't be getting one. If the iPad was widescreen I wouldn't but it either.

having used both the iPad1 and the Xoom extensively (current xoom owner, former iPad1 owner), i find the 16:10 form factor to be much more pleasant to use while web browsing than on a 4:3 iPad. Even in portrait mode, the 1280 x 800 16:10 form factor gives crisp text without having the need to zoom in to read. In essence, you dont have to finagle with tapping in and out to view said webpage.

Its whats keeping me from returning my xoom, the web browsing experience is phenomenal, coupled with flash support and tabbed browsing, one cannot go wrong.

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Typical Apple fanatic response :rolleyes:

Android does a lot of things that iOS doesn't and that Apple won't allow. Regardless, it'd be a nice change. The iOS interface is stale.

Try out the Galaxy Tab for a month, you'll be pining for the iPad.

At this point for me, whatever the benefits of Android, they are massively outweighed by the poor implementation and third rate hardware. I'm not willing to pay £600 + for a device that is more often than not a plasticky piece of garbage with an OS that's given to the manufacturers for free

The sole Android tablet I've seen that looks in any way impressive is the HTC flyer. It has to be said that they make some fantastic, solid gear.

Don't get me wrong - I have enjoyed the Android phones that I've used (HTC Desire HD), but the tablets for me, as yet, aren't anything to write home about.
 
Yes, I'm sure there will be long lines of consumers at each Samsung retailer waiting anxiously for this new, highly innovative tablet.
 
The truth is, you guys are so invested in Apple services and App Store, you'll never be able to switch to another phone or tablet than iPhone and iPad. Suck it up.

Sadly, this. But then again, unlike my iPhone I never really bothered with the whole Apple ecosystem with my iPad.

If this actually delivers on it's promises (i.e. a beautiful piece of hardware with a dual core processor and Android Honeycomb), then I might just trade in my iPad 2 later this summer.

iOS is starting to feel stale.
 
Impressive weight if these ones are metal and not some plasticky crap, will be interested to see real world battery life tests too. Tbh I'm getting sick of seeing all these vapourware tabs that get announced like forever before they are ready for release in a desperate attempt to stop people from buying iPad 2 by trying to dazzle the tech folk with the tech specs of the device.

I don't think I could legitimately even consider an Android tablet until they have a real selection of apps, and more important (to me) games. So that likely means 18 months maybe longer, maybe by then ios 5 or 6 may have sorted out some of the lousy stuff (****** notifications, lame ass multitasking, no widgets etc), but maybe not, we shall see.
 
Wow, Samsung nailed it with their tablets this time around. Link to a good write up of the new Samsung Tablets

Personally for me, the lighter the better, and the Super PLS display + higher resolution makes it even better.

  • Lighter than iPad 2
  • Competitively priced (cheapest is $469 price-point for 16gb wifi)
  • SD Card Support
  • 1280 x 800 resolution (compared to iPad 2's 1024 x 768)
  • Super PLS Display (its better than iPad's IPS Display)
  • Most likely will be tegra 2 (or will it be samsung's in-house SoC?)

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OMG ... I can't believe how wrong we have all been. Thanks to the original poster for providing this valuable information. Everyone .... save your money and buy the Tab!!! Let's all go to http:www.samsungrumors.com for more information!!

Please ....... why would you post this in a Mac forum?? Troll perhaps???!!!

DON"T FEED THE TROLLS!!!! LMAO!!
 
16:10 versus 4:3

First of all, I think these are great looking tablets compared to any other android tablet so far. The layout of features such as the volume, power and headphones seem a little odd, but part of that is the landscape layout.

Wide-screen is better for movies because the content is closer to the aspect ratio of the screen. That's just a given, but almost everything else is debatable.

In the world, there is not much other content displayed in a wide aspect ratio. Most printed paper for reading is 4:3 in portrait mode, as are magazines. Books are also not widescreen. Legal paper is an example of a 16:10 format normally read in portrait, but it's somehow awkward and relegated to legal documents.

So it depends what you use your tablet for. If you are always watching videos and playing games widescreen is an interesting option, but it could also prove awkward for reading text and documents.

On a desktop I normally read documents in different windows with enough vertical space to see a page at a time. Widescreen helps when viewing two documents at once (16:10 especially), but not so much for one document at a time.

Honeycomb is a task switching operating system like iOS, so unless mulitdocument viewing is available in the document app, what's the point of widescreen? On an average work day, I'm not usually viewing two documents, I'm viewing a document and using another program on one screen. These devices don't work that way, instead they switch between activities quickly.

The first generation honeycomb devices that I've seen are all widescreen, but I'm sure some company will develop a 4:3 version to differentiate their tablet eventually. I just hope the apps work well with something other than 16:10.
 
Try out the Galaxy Tab for a month, you'll be pining for the iPad.

Tried it at BestBuy for 5 minutes and couldn't stand it :p


OMG ... I can't believe how wrong we have all been. Thanks to the original poster for providing this valuable information. Everyone .... save your money and buy the Tab!!! Let's all go to http:www.samsungrumors.com for more information!!

Please ....... why would you post this in a Mac forum?? Troll perhaps???!!!

DON"T FEED THE TROLLS!!!! LMAO!!

... really?

Not everyone posting about something other than an iProduct is a troll. You know, there are other products out there that are good that aren't Apple.
 
Initially, I was dead set on buying an iPad 2, no question. But after the flood of reports about excessive light leak, I decided to wait and see if the backlight issue will be resolved.

Now these Samsung tablets have certainly peaked my interest--especially the 8.9 tab. Not only will it be more portable, but it will have the next best thing to a "retina" display.
 
Love the "they nailed it" comment on a product not even available yet. The only thing nailed is the continually ridiculous posts comparing non-existent tablets to the iPad.
 
Even though I just got my iPad 2 I'm happy samsung is stepping up and not sitting around and waiting!!! I love iOS. So I am biased but samsung makes a great product!
 
Disclaimer: I have a Touch and iPad and I like them very much. I also have an Android phone.

I think a lot of people that dismiss any specific Android device like Xoom or the Samsung tabs are missing something. Android tablets have the potential to accelerate both hardware and software more rapidly than iPads do. The companies coming out with Android tablets are accustomed to competing on hardware differentiation so I would expect a much faster progression of hardware than Apple is likely be able to match over the long term.

I also expect Android to focus on weaknesses in iOS. Wireless proximity synching would be great. HP is already doing some of this. Android will do it because it doesn't have the business requirement to cable up to the bloated iTunes as part of a business model. Android is already much better at notifications. Android is also going to be much better at supporting more video formats, etc., rather than making you convert everything to one format.

Meanwhile, Google and others will work on both apps. Yes, it will fragment the market and there will be messy edges, but you also don't have Google limiting or shutting down talented developers and making them create a Jailbreak community like Apple has done. The potential is there for Android developers.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/09/profit-shocker-android-brings-home-more-bacon-than-ios-for-pock/

I'm a software developer and I know people at eight companies making software for iOS. They are all also making Android software.

Apple has moved at a ***glacial*** pace when it comes to improving all of the iOS devices. Faster chips...what next gen device doesn't have them? Adding some cameras and some tweaks come to mind as the "major" things since the first iPhone came out. Multitasking was finally added, but only in a pretty limited way both in OS implementation and from a UI Perspective. Folders and Cut/Paste should have been there from day 1 instead of taking years. I don't care (but I understand that some may) if the next gen device is a fraction of a pound lighter and a tiny fraction of an inch thinner; that doesn't actually let me *do* more from one release to the next. The usual response is "But it does everything I want to do." That's great. If tablets are already fulfilling the majority of what they will be used for, then it's easy for others to catch up.

Apple deserves every bit of their success, but releasing what have been considered by many (including myself) to be very limited updates once a year isn't going to cut it forever. I feel like this platform is almost standing still. Android tablet manufacturers are going to be forced to move at a faster pace.

Before I get hammered by everyone... I repeat... I think my iPad is great. I'm not looking to replace it and I'm not saying any Android tablet matches it now. I do think Android has the potential for a much faster rate of improvement for both hardware and software though and I don't dismiss Android as easily as most here seem to.

Just my opinion, and it's worth what you paid for it. ;)
 
but the 8.9 inch samsung tablet is 470 grams :p i suppose its 'not fair' when the iPad is 9.7 inches, but still, a 10.1 inch vs 9.7 inch tablet that is roughly the same weight is still good imo.

a 1280 x 800 resolution on a 8.9 inch screen will probably look extremely sharp, and better than whats currently being offered at the moment.

I was comparing the two units that are closest in terms of size (9.7 vs 10.1), so the weight difference is nearly identical. Not like anyone can tell a 6 gram difference anyway.

1280x800 would look pretty nice I'm sure. For me, the quantity and quality of apps is a huge difference. A lot of people that I've seen on the forums with Xoom's are complaining about a lot of the Android apps force-closing a lot as well. I'm happy to have any competition at all though for the iPad, hopefully it will keep Apple on their toes.
 
What's the point of having a superior device without Apple's App Store? That's the whole selling point for millions of us, not the brand/design/specs.
 
What's the point of having a superior device without Apple's App Store? That's the whole selling point for millions of us, not the brand/design/specs.

believe it or not, theres quite a few out there that do not care for apps at all, or don't want to spend more $$ on applications.

honestly, a tablet with a great web browsing experience would be good enough for many folks, me included.

i'm not much of an app person, i'll download a couple apps here and there, but i don't need the 'extra' stuff.
 
Seriously people, drop the Apps argument. How many apps do you actually use. Both markets have way more apps than any of us will ever need or use. But if you seriously need to go down that path then I would have to tip my hat to the Android Market. It has more free apps, and is growing at a very scary rate. It will no doubt surpass the App Store. So It's not a question of if, but a question of when. What then? Seriously, drop that argument while you can save face.
As far as these new Tabs go and if these specs hold true (I can't see any reason why they wouldn't), then Apple just got a wake up call. This thing is gorgeous, and that screen and resolution is ridiculous. Honeycomb is a true tablet OS, and we know iOS is not. Most here were laughing at how news broke of Samsung calling their Tab 10.1 "inadequate" in some aspects. Big kudos to Samsung for doing something about it. Turning things around in such an extremely short time frame can be considered one of the big advantages of being true OEM, which Apple is not. Let's see how this plays out. I'm all for competition.
 
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