It also says "build real apps with SwiftUI" on the iPadOS 15 preview page (https://www.apple.com/ipados/ipados-preview/)... So I'm assuming UIKit is out of the question too?"features the ability to build iPhone and iPad apps directly on an iPad"
-> Great start, hope going up...
"in Swift Playgrounds"
-> Big, big, big disappointment...
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
iPadOS 15 Allows You to Build iPhone and iPad Apps on an iPad
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I was wondering when Apple will allow you to write apps on the iPad.
Too bad you're probably right. Probably will have way too many "race to the bottom" apps rather high quality, AAA apps.
A very very tiny bit more, if that.
I know it’s hard to believe, but the majority of folks producing on the iPad are producing audio, video and imagery today. Production of applications will always be dwarfed by those such that most developers, since they’re unable to produce the others, will STILL be using it as a consumption device. That’s not a bad thing, just how things are.To be fair, WWDC IS all week.
And, some of the features Apple went over likely tie to additional developmental capabilities and API’s that will be gone over in the breakout sessions.
If a poorly produced fart App gives a budding programmer the vision that this is something they could do, then bring on the fart apps! I mean, it wasn’t like FaceBook in it’s initial implementation was supremely difficult to develop
The state of the union address in 2 hours is where Apple will delve more into the nitty gritty aspects of today’s announcements.To be fair, WWDC IS all week.
To be clear: IMHO there is nothing wrong with a legion of “fart or do whatever noise on whatever condition”-apps because it increases the knowledge of the people who do them. 🥸🤪
Otherwise there is no reason for developers to not start developing. Yes, M1 iPPs are a minority at the moment, but the lamp post moved. Apple has done much of their homework. Maybe even more they publicly presented today - we’ll see during the next days… and when the public beta hits. 😎
How is Macs mouse/trackpad support and drag-and-drop a killer feature? I mean its cool but come on... Is this why people buy M1 iPads?
You were the one who claimed iPadOS would ONLY contain new Widget placement.
Again, you were wrong. There’s much more. Why will you not admit this?
You may not personally find the new features useful, but they ARE new features.
Feels like you want to move the goal posts by requiring them to be “killer features”. That’s weak.
make a poll. For the sake of objectivity I suggest a simple question:
Did you buy your iPP 2021 based on available informations or your wishes or rumours reported from outside Apple?
I’ll go and get popcorn 🍿 😎
I am guessing people bought M1 iPads because they wanted iPads…
I agree, they're useful to learn coding, but we don't need all of them on the App Store.
This is a WWDC keynote, for developers, not a consumer product event. A lot of new developers use Swift Playgrounds to prototype new stuff. Much higher percentage who care.
Which, with a dock (or daisy-chaining, but Apple has never supported that as far as I know) you could still use to connect multiple monitors ... just not with an M1, that's the limiting factor at the moment.
My Intel MacBook Air with Thunderbolt 3 drives two external displays over a single port via my TB3 dock. I'm waiting for the same with the next generation of Apple processors, as are many others I've seen here. More importantly for iPadOS, I'm also waiting for any way for an external display to be actually usable for anything besides apps with specific support for this feature, otherwise there's pretty much no point at the moment.
this should also allow for interactive coding courses - for those that do some "for fun" programming (like myself) it might be a smoother experience than XCode.
It reminds me of a PDA I used to use, the Psion. Every version of it had its own programming language, which worked pretty well. Yet, most people only seemed to care about it as a digital shopping list 😂 It's still a great thing to have a rapid prototyping tool on the machine itself, even if 99.999% of the people will never use it.A very very tiny bit more, if that.
The 2021 iPP still has the pathetic screen mirroring only which results large black borders all around the video when playing to external monitor/tv. In comparison my M1 MBA can easily send videos over to my hotel room tv via HDMI fullscreen as it doesn't force you to use mirror image. So I'm still going to have to lug my MBA around on trips. Sadly iOS 15 does nothing to fix this. Maybe it's by design. Really regret trading in my 2018 iPP 12.9 for my M1....Which, with a dock (or daisy-chaining, but Apple has never supported that as far as I know) you could still use to connect multiple monitors ... just not with an M1, that's the limiting factor at the moment.
My Intel MacBook Air with Thunderbolt 3 drives two external displays over a single port via my TB3 dock. I'm waiting for the same with the next generation of Apple processors, as are many others I've seen here. More importantly for iPadOS, I'm also waiting for any way for an external display to be actually usable for anything besides apps with specific support for this feature, otherwise there's pretty much no point at the moment.
But you get to make apps on a FREAKING IPAD
That “Universal Control” or Continuity or whatever they’re calling it appeals to me a lot. I’d been debating getting a second monitor for additional workflow/entertainment but now I could just park my iPad next to it and use it without losing some iPadOS functionality.
Also, I’m weirdly excited about the Swift Playgrounds announcement. I can’t see writing an app entirely on iPad myself but if I’m out and about somewhere, I could see myself toying around with it. Especially with the ability to simulate it right there. It won’t replace Xcode for me but I can see where it’d occasionally be useful for me. Especially if I don’t have my MBP on tap for whatever reason.
Still though, for some odd reason that universal control feature is running around in my head and I have a bunch of use cases where it’ll come in handy. I might redesign my desk with that in mind now if it works as seamless as Apple hopes it will.
Also, I’m weirdly excited about the Swift Playgrounds announcement. I can’t see writing an app entirely on iPad myself but if I’m out and about somewhere, I could see myself toying around with it. Especially with the ability to simulate it right there. It won’t replace Xcode for me but I can see where it’d occasionally be useful for me. Especially if I don’t have my MBP on tap for whatever reason.
Still though, for some odd reason that universal control feature is running around in my head and I have a bunch of use cases where it’ll come in handy. I might redesign my desk with that in mind now if it works as seamless as Apple hopes it will.