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iPadOS 16 Lets Apps Use Storage as Virtual RAM on M1 iPads

I wonder if this is setting the stage for Logic and FCP to appear on the iPad later this year?

You'd have to imagine that there will be some fairly hefty RAM and SSD space requirements for both though, so I can see these being a M1 Pro and M2 Pro only features & presumably even then, only for the 12.9 models with 1-2TB SSD and 16GB RAM.
 
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The article mentions the 256 GB m1 iPad Pro. Anyone know how virtual memory management will work on the 128 GB m1 iPad Pro?
 
golgo1313 said:
Ditto. It feels so much like a ploy to get us to spend more money. "We know iPads last a long time. We're not making money during that time. We recently missed our quarterly and took a hit on our stocks. How can we placate wall street and our stock holders?" And the sad part? It will work...
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Of course it will work. Almost every person I’ve seen express anger and an intent to leave the iPad over this have also stated they are going to pivot to another Apple product. That’ll show em!
Kylo83 said:
So the 16gb iPad wasn’t worth it when the 256 storage will give you the same 16gb ram lol
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Are you suggesting virtual swap is the the same as actual RAM? That’s…neat.
 
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What are the chances that by 2024, with the EU mandate of USB-C on iPhone, that we’ll see your phone now get the same Stage Manager experience. By that point the chip inside will be pretty on-par with M1, it has the storage and RAM, it has the port.

We’d finally have DeX on iPhone!
 
*cries in iPad mini 6*

Seriously there is almost nothing new (of any real substance) for this barely 9 month old tablet with the newest chip Apple makes.
 
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locksmack said:
*cries in iPad mini 6*

Seriously there is almost nothing new (of any real substance) for this barely 9 month old tablet with the newest chip Apple makes.
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The Mini 6 feels like a "tweener" device.... like the iPad 3 which lasted 6 months before the 4 came out. It's small, but offers nothing apart from that really. I'm fully expecting an M mini around october-time.
 
locksmack said:
*cries in iPad mini 6*

Seriously there is almost nothing new (of any real substance) for this barely 9 month old tablet with the newest chip Apple makes.
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the mini rocks. as a mac user I think its the best ipad because its the most distinctive experience from a macbook.

My wife lives 100% ipad so ipad 'pro' and some of this stuff like multiple windows makes a difference.
-d
 
bluecoast said:
I wonder if this is setting the stage for Logic and FCP to appear on the iPad later this year?

You'd have to imagine that there will be some fairly hefty RAM and SSD space requirements for both though, so I can see these being a M1 Pro and M2 Pro only features & presumably even then, only for the 12.9 models with 1-2TB SSD and 16GB RAM.
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Could be. They’ve got pieces in place now to support multiple semi-freeform app windows in a single workspace, virtual resolution scaling, flexible external-screen workspace support, virtual memory, and a very high hardware floor required for all of those bits. There’s a couple missing links though. Final Cut Pro can kind of make the jump as a self-contained package but Logic Pro’s user base is hugely invested in the third-party plugin ecosystem. They have to be able to support Mac AU plugins on iPad - and get big names (like Native Instruments, for example) agreeing to port their products across - in order for iPad Logic to not be DOA.
 
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singularity0993 said:
Same here, absolutely disappointed by this decision. If this is how Apple decides to treat its 2-yr-old ”Pro” device, I’m never buying another ”Pro”.
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Never understood this type of comment.

Your "Pro" device does and will still do what you thought it was doing, you were never promised anything forward.

You based your decision on what it did for you not what it might do in the future (as nobody could guess), your 2 year old device wont suddenly stop being pro or doing it's work.

You are missing on features from the new OS, features you didn't have before, but the HW you have is still as good and as zippy on the new OS.

Bottom line, ALWAYS buy stuff for what they are capable the day you buy them, never buy things hoping they will do more in the future.
 
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Xaositek said:
What are the chances that by 2024, with the EU mandate of USB-C on iPhone, that we’ll see your phone now get the same Stage Manager experience. By that point the chip inside will be pretty on-par with M1, it has the storage and RAM, it has the port.

We’d finally have DeX on iPhone!
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Uh? what does a USBC mandate for charger have anything to do with "DeX on an iPhone"?
 
falkon-engine said:
The article mentions the 256 GB m1 iPad Pro. Anyone know how virtual memory management will work on the 128 GB m1 iPad Pro?
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Probably exactly the same way, but with the necessarily “slice“ of reserved storage being twice as meaningful for the device’s owner.
 
From apple site:
Available on iPad Air (4th generation) with a minimum of 256GB storage, iPad Pro 12.9-inch (5th generation) and iPad Pro 11-inch (3rd generation).

So also ipad with 128gb will feature 16gb memory swap. Just the 64gb version is not allowed.
 
Piplodocus said:
Bummer it's just M1. I've got the 2020 A12Z iPad Pro and loads of free storage. Did a whole computer as the dev transition kit, but hamstrung relative to M1. Just down to memory capacity?

I knew buying the 2020 was a kinda bad deal at the time, being just the 2018 with only an extra graphics core, and that the next would probably whoop it's ass. But I didn't realise it was such a big jump to the M1 coming to iPad and I'd then have big feature skips rather than just a general performance hit on a pretty damn powerful iPad. 😒
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The 2018/2020 iPad Pro’s SSD has significantly lower write speeds than it does read speeds. The M1 iPad’s SSDs have 5-10x faster write speeds. That’s a sizable impact on swap file performance. Going from a pure RAM solution to a relatively slow virtual memory setup would produce a noticeable performance hit.
 
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Born2Run said:
Does this mean my 2TB iPad won't use Virtual RAM since it already has 16gb... If that's true, then I want my money back as it's not fair the lower specs get something I don't have! 🤣🤣🤣
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It means multiple apps can access 16 GB at once for a truer multitasking experience. You could pull up a massive project in Procreate and work on it alongside a large file in Affinity Photo or Photoshop. Your 2TB means more available storage for more virtual memory.
 
Doing virtual RAM on the 64GB M1 Air seems like.. a not a great idea.

But I'm sure it won't kick in unless there's next to nothing stored locally.
 
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Are we beyond the lifespan of storage being seriously affected by the extra reads and writes?
 
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