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What’s a ‘real pro user’? Look, there is one type of iPad user. It’s someone that can do their computing with an iPad. That’s that.
The rest of them can’t. Buy something else. That should be that… except… all the keyboard warriors airing their opinion about their own, normally extremely specific, use case - whilst dismissing everyone else’s evidence to the contrary.
The iPad is a sleek convertible piece of kit. So sleek that people that use an OS that’s not even available for the device REALLY want that OS available for the device.
 
LMAO, imagine buying a fully spec'd MBP 16" and just use it as a content-consuming device.
Yep, that's what ALL my Macs since 2001 have been primarily used for, what Steve Jobs used to call iLife: photos, videos, music, Internet, basic file/document management.

Once the iPad got M1 (and esp. its extra RAM), I pulled the trigger and never looked back.
 
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Why would you want to? iCloud Drive syncs all that without intervention.
That's assuming they are storing data in iCloud Drive on their iPad. The "On My iPad" location is as far as I can tell only directly accessible from the files app on the iPad itself.

@d5aqoëp In the meantime Universal Control can be used to drag files from the iPad to your Mac and vice versa though it can be finicky and will never be as fast as copying the data over direct wire
 
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iPad Mini is pretty great - and Files updates in 16 have me drooling. With a hub for storage devices, ethernet, a USB mouse and an HDMI monitor it's damn near a full on laptop.
 
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Can it let you use an external USB C drive as additional storage? I have had a few potential use case scenarios for my 12.9Pro 3rd gen that have been scuppered by the Files app eg read comics/ ebooks/ pdfs from a small form factor USB drive, and a couple of months ago trying to copy some cartoons for the toddler to watch whilst we were travelling. This latter one may have been on a ipad Mini, not the pro, but I found i couldn't do it without iTunes, which I don't use because I'm not fully in the ecosystem as they say.
 
Can it let you use an external USB C drive as additional storage? I have had a few potential use case scenarios for my 12.9Pro 3rd gen that have been scuppered by the Files app eg read comics/ ebooks/ pdfs from a small form factor USB drive, and a couple of months ago trying to copy some cartoons for the toddler to watch whilst we were travelling. This latter one may have been on a ipad Mini, not the pro, but I found i couldn't do it without iTunes, which I don't use because I'm not fully in the ecosystem as they say.
You’re already able to copy files to/from usb drives using the Files app on iPad.
 
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Cheers. I just tried it, in Files you can't seem to pick your app of choice when opening files, and most apps I tried won't let you open files on the external drive. You still have to copy them over to the iPad.
 
Cheers. That works for some things eg CBR files, but not FLAC files - I can't choose to open up in my usual hi res audio player. Also still can't use an app to open up files on the drive directly. But an improvement, thanks.
 
Hover mode for Apple Pencil on new iPad Pros is software only update, so they could roll it out to existing iPad Pros. Another Stage Manager fiasco. Also, when can we get 2 apps vertically stacked in PORTRAIT mode on iPadOS 19 maybe? The current super tall thin layout is so useless. Even a first term UI student wouldn't do such a thing. Apple is sucking it hard lately...
 
Cheers. That works for some things eg CBR files, but not FLAC files - I can't choose to open up in my usual hi res audio player. Also still can't use an app to open up files on the drive directly. But an improvement, thanks.
I watched an old ripped movie straight from a usb c hub and an older usb 3 thumb drive Mini 6 and it went well last night - had errors on an old SD card (in hub as well) but that may be it’s an old card
 
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That's assuming they are storing data in iCloud Drive on their iPad. The "On My iPad" location is as far as I can tell only directly accessible from the files app on the iPad itself.

@d5aqoëp In the meantime Universal Control can be used to drag files from the iPad to your Mac and vice versa though it can be finicky and will never be as fast as copying the data over direct wire
I successfully exported from the iPad photos to an external USB flash drive (via usb c hub) using the the JD Drive app (used that and lightning dongle on phone previously and gave it permission to access photos) and even navigated to a temp folder I set up on the external usb.
 
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Precisely! Well put.

The corollary (?), and inappropriately used, question being “what’s a ‘normal’ user” or “most users?” Those terms get bandied about here as if there is a well-established and detailed public profile of device users, which when in fact our understanding of usage is limited to ourselves and maybe our immediate regular contacts - nowhere near the tens (hundreds?) of millions of users and their situations.

To quote Michael Malice for the second time this week: “You’re not entitled to speak for ANYone else, much less EVERYone else.”
Yes, exactly this! I get so tired of people saying that iPad users such as myself can’t be “pros” even though I most definitely use my iPad for Pro work, lol! 😂🤣
 
Quite an amazing take
Why? The iOS calculator is mediocre at best. There are several amazing 3rd party calculators available. I use pCalc. It's not free but it's a lot better than the 1st party one. I use it on the iPhone, where you get an Apple calculator for free. So, it's not that much of an amazing take really.
 
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Why? The iOS calculator is mediocre at best. There are several amazing 3rd party calculators available. I use pCalc. It's not free but it's a lot better than the 1st party one. I use it on the iPhone, where you get an Apple calculator for free. So, it's not that much of an amazing take really.

Very happy for you, but the bottom line here is that Apple is selling "Pro" tablets for $3K with no Calculator in them.
 
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Very happy for you, but the bottom line here is that Apple is selling "Pro" tablets for $3K with no Calculator in them.
And Microsoft sells $3k computers with no option to opt out of updates. I think I’d rather core OS functions than an app which can easily be fixed by installing one of the hundreds of nice quality apps available in the App Store. I do think the Calculator app should come to the iPad, but I think a blown up iPhone calculator app would have been a mistake. Besides, you can use Siri search to do math calculations, so you in fact do have a calculator on the iPad.
 
I do think the Calculator app should come to the iPad
Well, the first step would be to stop telling other people to "stop complaining".

The third-party solution is there, yes, but, as you yourself acknowledged earlier, these aren't free apps.

Not sure what Microsoft's policy in regards to OS updates on their computers has anything to do with the lack of Calculator app on iPad Pro. "I'd rather core OS functions" is a weird take too. That's not really a choice, is it?
 
Well, the first step would be to stop telling other people to "stop complaining".

The third-party solution is there, yes, but, as you yourself acknowledged earlier, these aren't free apps.

Not sure what Microsoft's policy in regards to OS updates on their computers has anything to do with the lack of Calculator app on iPad Pro. "I'd rather core OS functions" is a weird take too. That's not really a choice, is it?
A. I didn’t tell you to “stop complaining”, I just said I mildly disagree with you, mainly because of how big of a deal you seem to be making of it. (In other words, I agree that it wouldn’t hurt to add the Calculator app, but I don’t think it’s absence is a big deal, and certainly not worth the level of complaint I’ve seen from some (by some, I’m not referring to you in particular)).

B. I don’t recall referencing any paid for third-party calculator apps, I think you’re confusing me with someone else. I DID reference a free built-in calculation function in Siri search, which also means that a separate calculator app is pretty much unnecessary. Also, there are lots of free calculator apps that are good, not all are paid for.

C. I was pointing out the problem with your comment about “Apple is selling "Pro" tablets for $3K with no Calculator in them.” You could look for any kind of software features you deem “essential” to a pro device, and then call the device’s “pro” status into question because it’s missing it. It’s arbitrary. I could use the same logic to say that Microsoft is cheating people by selling them a $3K “pro” device without options to opt out of software updates. It’s completely arbitrary. Also, as I said before, you can easily fix the problem you’re having by installing one of the many great quality, free calculator apps. OS limitations like not being able to opt out of updates can’t be fixed by installing an app. There’s even a calculator app that looks nearly identical to the iPhone calculator app, and it’s free to use.
 
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A. I didn’t tell you to “stop complaining”, I just said I mildly disagree with you, mainly because of how big of a deal you seem to be making of it. (In other words, I agree that it wouldn’t hurt to add the Calculator app, but I don’t think it’s absence is a big deal, and certainly not worth the level of complaint I’ve seen from some (by some, I’m not referring to you in particular)).

B. I don’t recall referencing any paid for third-party calculator apps, I think you’re confusing me with someone else. I DID reference a free built-in calculation function in Siri search, which also means that a separate calculator app is pretty much unnecessary. Also, there are lots of free calculator apps that are good, not all are paid for.

C. I was pointing out the problem with your comment about “Apple is selling "Pro" tablets for $3K with no Calculator in them.” You could look for any kind of software features you deem “essential” to a pro device, and then call the device’s “pro” status into question because it’s missing it. It’s arbitrary. I could use the same logic to say that Microsoft is cheating people by selling them a $3K “pro” device without options to opt out of software updates. It’s completely arbitrary. Also, as I said before, you can easily fix the problem you’re having by installing one of the many great quality, free calculator apps. OS limitations like not being able to opt out of updates can’t be fixed by installing an app. There’s even a calculator app that looks nearly identical to the iPhone calculator app, and it’s free to use.
They’re talking about me but quoting you. I said stop complaining to them, well because they should. The apple calculator app is very sub par compared to the rest. Why clamour for it on the iPad?

I also referenced a paid third party app, Pcalc. Though there are many free ones too.

I think they’re just so angry about all the little things that bug them that they can’t even distinguish between posters whom have a different opinion anymore. It’s very macrumours.

They even referenced the lack of 1st party calculator app over in another thread, somewhat blindly putting ‘me’ in with some sort of apple god adoring loyalist. It’s bizarre actually.
 
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