That's Apple's fault.
Blender is open source, and the project doesn't want to deal with idiotic app store nonsense. When Apple finally opens up iOS/iPadOS to normal software installation, there will be Blender.
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iPadOS 19 Will Be 'More Like macOS' in Three Ways
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Blender is open source, and the project doesn't want to deal with idiotic app store nonsense. When Apple finally opens up iOS/iPadOS to normal software installation, there will be Blender.
I hate it that Apple doesn’t support the Files in all their apps. Why is there no support in Books or Music.
A couple of years ago I plugged in my iPad mini into my Thunderbolt hub just to see what happens. I was amazed that everything just worked out of the box. External SDDs, the studio display, external microphone with audio mixer, my mouse and mechanical keyboard. But after a couple of minutes that excitement went away because of one huge problem: iPadOS…
Having the ability to boot into macOS would be absolutely amazing but I doubt Apple will bring this like… ever. Too much fear of iPad sales cannibalizing Mac sales and vice versa. I personally wouldn’t even need a touch enabled version of macOS, just the dual boot option.
Having the ability to boot into macOS would be absolutely amazing but I doubt Apple will bring this like… ever. Too much fear of iPad sales cannibalizing Mac sales and vice versa. I personally wouldn’t even need a touch enabled version of macOS, just the dual boot option.
I hope not. Apple has screwed the iPad up more than not. I never use stage manager. I want windows that like around like a Mac.
But Apple co to use to lose interest in our household because it’s more of the same ea year but with more bugs in the software. It’s not a pleasure to use anymore as it once was.
By that logic there will be an iPadOS Pro version that can’t/wont run on the iPad mini I guess.
I wonder if these features will artificially be limited to the iPad Pro line.
Just give me floading windows on top of each other and let me resize them as I want like every computer ever. I can do that even on my phone ...
Yeah, I was actually kind of shocked how well an Elo touch screen worked when I tried it a month or so ago. A client happened to have one sitting around and wanted to use it as a display for a work bench mini. Ok, works fine as a screen, no problem. On a whim, I installed the drivers to make the touch function work - and it did, was a lot smoother than I'd expected. That system will never actually be used like that, it's got a keyboard and mouse, the screen is mounted too high to be used as a touchscreen without serious gorilla arm, but it was fun to play with and worked shockingly well.I’ve used MacOS on touch screens and it’s pretty good, especially since I still use a physical keyboard with it. My iPad pro would get used so much more if it had MacOS on it. Time to make use of those M class processors
As a proof of concept? Yeah, iPadOS just needs to die, ship macOS on iPads, they'll actually be capable of being something useful instead of just a toy.
I should be able to plug in my iPad to say an Apple Studio Display and it operate exactly like a Mac. Stage Manger, while better than it was, is soooo inconsistent. Just give us the dang MacOS dock and better window support with multiple apps at the same time at least.
It’s not about shortcomings, it’s about reality. If those users are trying to do tasks that work better with a windows-based UI, they will never be satisfied with a tablet. Some people here have abstract ideas that wouldn’t work in practice.
Because macOS itself would not scale well to an 11” iPad. Don’t believe me? Try logging into your Mac using Jump Desktop. It’s the closest thing to running macOS on an iPad.
The iPad already has resizable floating windows, and almost no one likes it because, in general, floating windows don’t work well on touch devices.
This sounds simple enough, but actually think about it for a second, think about an average consumer, switching between the two operating systems.
you have to shut down and restart the iPad every single time to switch between the two operating systems.
There are applications you can access on one of the operating systems that you cannot access on the other operating system, so you have to reboot every single time to go between them.
There are completely different interaction methods between the two different operating systems.
Outside of your power user, who is more than likely already gonna have both an iPad and a Mac anyway, it would be a completely weird, barely native, strange feeling, just awful experience.
Just think of a simple experience like wanting to watch a downloaded Netflix movie.
Let’s say you’re working in macOS. Well, there is no native macOS app for Netflix, so there is no way to download.
So now you have to shut down macOS, boot into iPadOS, log into iPadOS, and *then* you can watch your downloaded movie.
What average consumer is ever going to want to do that?
And I can just imagine it would be a nightmare for Apple support, telling people to boot from this operating system back to this operating system, and then boot back into the other operating system, ridiculous. Completely the opposite of the “a bit of everything for everyone” tablet the iPad is supposed to be.
I absolutely agree about the average user, but I think it would be the same for power users.
It’s easy to imagine loving macOS on the iPad. But I guess when they faced reality (awful UI, reboot, non-shared storage…), we would have many posts saying Apple should have never allowed macOS to be on the iPad
iPad's ultra conservative approach to background tasks is what holds it back the most. If "Improved multitasking" doesn't mean addressing that then I'm out.
I completely agree with this. I have a MacBook Pro and an iPad Pro, I use the iPad way, way more and it’s mostly just because it’s more *fun* to use.
That absolutely does not mean that there isn’t room for improvement, of course there is. Tons of it.
But that room for improvement is absolutely not putting a much more power-hungry, much more complicated operating system on top of it.
Seriously, people think the MacBook Air thermal throttles? They have no idea what’s coming to them with a full macOS on an iPad.
iPadOS is designed first and foremost to be both touch friendly and efficient. Literally if you compare the iPad Pro to the MacBook Air specification for specification, it has a significantly smaller battery, significantly worse thermals, and… oh yeah, a different operating system that’s better supported by those specifications.
macOS is literally designed to use as much RAM as your computer has, that’s why if you have a machine with 64 GB of RAM you’ll frequently see even just a couple browser tabs use 30-40 GB.
iPadOS is exactly the opposite, and that’s what makes it great.
You can literally leave everything on an iPad running in the background and barely see a performance hit, that’s what makes it so good for people who have absolutely no idea how technology works.
I have family members who can absolutely breeze on an iPad, but, despite being Apple customers for years and years, wouldn’t have the slightest clue how to do a single thing on a Mac.
I had to explain to one of my family members once that no, on a Mac you can’t just download everything from the App Store. It doesn’t work that way.
To people who have been using the Mac their entire life, this stuff is second nature. But that’s not the majority.
There is also the fact that no one here seems to be pointing out, that macOS is a significantly more power-hungry operating system than iPadOS.I absolutely agree about the average user, but I think it would be the same for power users.
It’s easy to imagine loving macOS on the iPad. But I guess when they faced reality (awful UI, reboot, non-shared storage…), we would have many posts saying Apple should have never allowed macOS to be on the iPad
macOS is designed to usually use as much RAM as it possibly can, to keep everything there. That’s why if you open activity monitor and even if you just have some default apps running, you’ll quickly see 80% of your ram get gobbled up.
iPadOS is exactly the opposite, it uses as little ram and as little processing power as possible until it absolutely needs it.
And the specifications of the products match these operating systems, even the MacBook Air has a significantly bigger battery than the iPad Pro, and a much bigger thermal envelope.
Put macOS on the iPad and watch that 10 hour long advertised battery life become 90 minutes, and the thing become so hot it’s uncomfortable to use.
The Yoga-style laptop designs are fun. They can keep the iPad line if they want, but why can't they make just one model of Macbook, say 13 inch or hopefully even smaller, where the screen flips all the way back so you can use it like a tablet? It doesn't have to be nearly as powerful as a bigger Macbook, nor as lightweight as an iPad. There'd be room for more battery in the keyboard part, but they could also stick a tiny fan in there if they had to. The display half wouldn't get hot.Basically what it should have been years ago. I have always wanted a capable light device similar to Microsoft Surface knowing iPadOS can never deliver such functionality being a mobile OS. I am afraid we will get more of stage manager
Instead they're working on a giant iPad that folds shut? Something more challenging, engineering wise, but ultimately less functional. Ugh.
We already have a calculator, can you want more?
just give me back the ability to copy and paste between canva projects. why apple took that away is beyond me.
It sounds like more tinkering around the edges as we got with Stage Manager which is far more frustrating than it is useful. The elephant in the room is that many, many loyal Apple customers want one device to serve as a touchable MacBook when docked and a tablet when handheld. Apple is perfectly capable of optimizing MacOS for touch or at least "Mac-OSifying" iPad OS, but giving us that goes against Apple's core business interest of maximizing hardware sales. With the lowest end M4 iPad Pros costing close to $1500 with a keyboard and pencil and pushing $3k at the top end, they really need to open things up, at minimum for the premium devices. At this point I'd be happy with a Files app that works more like Finder and the ability to place individual files or photos on a clean desktop, not siloed within apps or widgets.
So what I’m reading is iPadOS needs to just be replaced by macOS.