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If the iPadOS is like my MacOS I will be running to the store to get an iPad Pro
Do not hurry yet. It wilol probably happen, it will be step by step at lease before foldable iPad/MB will be released. That is my opinion.

You have to take into account iPad users who never owned mac. they do transition slowly because needed codding and not to mess users experince.
 
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Meanwhile, they seem to spending a lot of effort in dumb'ifying MacOS down to replicate iOS...

There's a reason their “What's a computer?" ad campaign crashed and burned a few years back - yet they seem determined to take us all to an OS created in 2007.
 
I just want Apple to study workflows and optimize their UI for that.

Basic things that are easy to do on Mac are challenging on iPad due to the way it multitasks and the way the file system works.

I don’t care so much about window management, that seems okay right now to me.
 
Most people complaining that the iPad isn't a Mac generally have buyers remorse that they didn't just get a Macbook Air instead ;)
Perhaps a few, but certainly not at all. The people complaining are frustrated by the snails pace that the shortcomings are being addressed. Things like multi-tasking and window sizing can be fixed without ruining the touch experience of the iPad.
 
Folks either don't realize or seem to forget that MacOS is a 'traditional' file/directory operating system architecture wherein data files are stored separately from the apps and can sometimes be opened by more than one kind of app, VERSUS, iOS and iPadOS that are newer APP-based architectures wherein the data 'files' are stored within the app structure that totally controls their usage; i.e. app A's files cannot be opened by app B, etc. This newer app-based architecture facilitates their ease-of-use on touch-screen devices like the iPhone and iPad. Because MacOS is based on a form of the 1960's UNIX architecture [called MACH], most people also don't realize that Macs, MacBooks and iMacs provide a window into the earlier command-line architecture through the Terminal app. For fun, open the Terminal app and type in "man find" that asks for the UNIX manual page for the 'find' command ... interesting stuff is revealed. And there are hundreds of manual pages built in. It gets way more interesting: MacOS can have multiple users accessing the same computer with their own logins and passwords and workspaces. As such it's useful to have a separate admin login distinct from the individual "regular" user(s). For advanced users, there's even the uber-superuser called ROOT that can be assigned a separate login. This makes Macs, MacBooks and iMacs similar to professional "workstations". In contrast, iOS and iPadOS can have only 1 user who is also the admin; i.e. each device has its own assigned user/admin. Further, the desktop screen on a Mac, MacBook or iMac is actually 1 of 16 of the separate desktop screens that are available thru the Mission Control app: each screen can have its own background and facilitates work on parallel projects in their own work areas for the same user ... so cool. iOS and iPadOS do not have this kind advanced usage capability. Basically what this all comes down to is that if folks only need to work with emails, texts, games, and browsers with some basic 'office' writing and table functions thrown in, then an iPad with a keyboard is MORE than sufficient. But even an iPad Pro with maxed out memory and storage cannot begin to compare to the VAST POWER and FLEXIBILITY of the Mac operating system with all of its depths, that are very important to professional users and programmers.
 
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Sorry, just where was Real File Management?

The rest of those non-improvements just sound like rearranging the deck chairs using 'consultant speak'.
 
Folks either don't realize or seem to forget that MacOS is a 'traditional' file/directory operating system architecture wherein data files are stored separately from the apps and can sometimes be opened by more than one kind of app, VERSUS, iOS and iPadOS that are newer APP-based architectures wherein the data 'files' are stored within the app structure that totally controls their usage; ...

I wouldn't say "don't realize or seem to forget", I'd say "utterly detest".
This is a well know 'excuse' Apple continually uses to avoid having to kill their cash cow of users needing multiple, ultimately kludged together devices, kludged together because only Apple can afford to fund the $$$$$$ kludges which keeps better programmers from doing the right thing and utterly erasing Apple software from existence.
 
Folks either don't realize or seem to forget that MacOS is a 'traditional' file/directory operating system architecture wherein data files are stored separately from the apps and can sometimes be opened by more than one kind of app, VERSUS, iOS and iPadOS that are newer APP-based architectures wherein the data 'files' are stored within the app structure that totally controls their usage; i.e. app A's files cannot be opened by app B, etc. This newer app-based architecture facilitates their ease-of-use on touch-screen devices like the iPhone and iPad. Because MacOS is based on a form of the 1960's UNIX architecture [called MACH], most people also don't realize that Macs, MacBooks and iMacs provide a window into the earlier command-line architecture through the Terminal app. For fun, open the Terminal app and type in "man find" that asks for the UNIX manual page for the 'find' command ... interesting stuff is revealed. And there are hundreds of manual pages built in. It gets way more interesting: MacOS can have multiple users accessing the same computer with their own logins and passwords and workspaces. As such it's useful to have a separate admin login distinct from the individual "regular" user(s). For advanced users, there's even the uber-superuser called ROOT that can be assigned a separate login. This makes Macs, MacBooks and iMacs similar to professional "workstations". In contrast, iOS and iPadOS can have only 1 user who is also the admin; i.e. each device has its own assigned user/admin. Further, the desktop screen on a Mac, MacBook or iMac is actually 1 of 16 of the separate desktop screens that are available thru the Mission Control app: each screen can have its own background and facilitates work on parallel projects in their own work areas for the same user ... so cool. iOS and iPadOS do not have this kind advanced usage capability. Basically what this all comes down to is that if folks only need to work with emails, texts, games, and browsers with some basic 'office' writing and table functions thrown in, then an iPad with a keyboard is MORE than sufficient. But even an iPad Pro with maxed out memory and storage cannot begin to compare to the VAST POWER and FLEXIBILITY of the Mac operating system with all of its depths, that are very important to professional users and programmers.
You absolutely right! But can you imagine same debate 20 years ago about desktop browser, Microsoft word, decent photo/video camera and VOIP calls in phone!?

We all hear because one fruit company showed all of us that is possible.

So now we wait from multi trillion company with gratest design legacy in the world that forged some desktop software in beautiful Palm sized piece of plastic, to do the same with 13” piece of aluminum.
 
That scares me a bit. iPadOS is great precisely because it’s not a desktop OS. It’s built from the ground up for a touch interface, where concepts such as windows don’t work well. All attempts to go against that (stage manager, trackpad support, etc.) haven’t been successful. The iPad doesn’t need to be like macOS to keep evolving, it just needs more iPad-like experiences — it already excels at many professional use cases like 3D modelling, art, in the medical field…
If more developers could be convinced to allow split screen multitasking with their apps, it would be a whole lot better. I’m not interested in stage manager on my 11 inch screen, but split view would be wonderful if more apps allowed it. Heck, Apple doesn’t even allow it settings app to do split view.
 
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If more developers could be convinced to allow split screen multitasking with their apps, it would be a whole lot better. I’m not interested in stage manager on my 11 inch screen, but split view would be wonderful if more apps allowed it. Heck, Apple doesn’t even allow its settings app to do split view.
 
Personally I'd love to develop using Xcode on an iPad... maybe not a daily driver but it would definitely take a leading position among my work tools.
 
Except they have the pro line which isn't what the grannies are buying. They could easily add features that only work on the pro line like they do for everything else. It's not rocket science.
First of all which OS features does the MacBook Pro have that the MacBook Air doesn't or Mac Studio features the Mac Mini or iMac don't?

Secondly, can you imaging all the something-gate whining and "Apple is trying to force Pro purchases when the Air has the same chip and ram" accusations if they artificially segregated the iPads like that. Apple limiting it to the M# iPads makes more sense just like the A# iPads don't have stage manager or virtual swap memory.
 
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  • Improved productivity
  • Improved multitasking
  • Improved app window management
is exactly the kind of thing you say when you have nothing to tell
 
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And Chris Lawley
I recently started following these two again. It seems like both of them started using Macs again in their workflows recently? Unless I’m misreading something. It's too bad, part of the reasons I went iPad only in the past was because of them.
 
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