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No, not really, I use the base ipad and the performance has gotten a good increase in the ipadOS 26.1 beta 3.

That's probably it, maybe 26.1 will be better. I've stayed on 26.0, haven't even updated to 26.0.1 (which I dont think will make a drastic difference, if any)
 
Completely agree. It is unreasonable to expect quality, significant bug-free meaningful updates every 12 months. However the yearly OS/ IOS updates are now hard coded into Apple DNA and they have sort of painted themselves into a corner. Not sure they could go to bi-annual.

In the end forced yearly updates also simply extend the Beta season 3-6 months deep into the yearly release. We all pretty much know that by now, don’t’ we?
Cook is waaaayyyyy too focused on public perception and shareholder sentiment. He’s also the guy that would argue in meetings why they couldn’t just keep the same USB2.0 slot because when he polled users against USB3.0, they didn’t really notice the difference in speed. He’s always cared more about shaving off pennies per unit than he cares about actually spending the money and time to refine products and make them compelling. Hell he has no idea how technology even fits into our lives his interviews are perfect evidence of that; he’s never said anything insightful or even worth contemplating. His entire public image is one big commercial for Apple products written by marketing that he’s committed to memory. “We here at Apple believe…”, “This new iPhone takes the perfection…”, “We think you’ll really love the new iPad, now here’s…”. Jobs definitely was unique in that he did bring a lot of spirituality and integrity to Apple. All of which made a great dynamic against Jobs, who would almost tank companies to make “perfect” products.

Cook’s counterbalance is gone though. And it’s shown for some time.

OS26 has been the worst piece of software they’ve ever put out (been with them since ‘06 exclusively), without hyperbole. Even aside from what anyone thinks aesthetically, the actual performance and quality of OS26 is quantifiably abysmal. Not just because of the bafflingly poor UX (every function buried under sub menus in claustrophobic little widgets) or a failure to execute Liquid Glass (it has been horrendously fractured since WWDC25), but the fact that a third of their 165k employees are software engineers. Without working software, the entire kingdom comes crashing down (at least in my eyes) and we are right back to utter mediocrity.
 
he’s never said anything insightful or even worth contemplating. His entire public image is one big commercial for Apple products written by marketing that he’s committed to memory. “We here at Apple believe…”, “This new iPhone takes the perfection…”, “We think you’ll really love the new iPad, now here’s…”.

Cook is like an Apple narrative programmed AI bot.

Has all the public facing charisma of a wet paper towel.
 
Cook is waaaayyyyy too focused on public perception and shareholder sentiment. He’s also the guy that would argue in meetings why they couldn’t just keep the same USB2.0 slot because when he polled users against USB3.0, they didn’t really notice the difference in speed. He’s always cared more about shaving off pennies per unit than he cares about actually spending the money and time to refine products and make them compelling. Hell he has no idea how technology even fits into our lives his interviews are perfect evidence of that; he’s never said anything insightful or even worth contemplating. His entire public image is one big commercial for Apple products written by marketing that he’s committed to memory. “We here at Apple believe…”, “This new iPhone takes the perfection…”, “We think you’ll really love the new iPad, now here’s…”. Jobs definitely was unique in that he did bring a lot of spirituality and integrity to Apple. All of which made a great dynamic against Jobs, who would almost tank companies to make “perfect” products.

Cook’s counterbalance is gone though. And it’s shown for some time.

OS26 has been the worst piece of software they’ve ever put out (been with them since ‘06 exclusively), without hyperbole. Even aside from what anyone thinks aesthetically, the actual performance and quality of OS26 is quantifiably abysmal. Not just because of the bafflingly poor UX (every function buried under sub menus in claustrophobic little widgets) or a failure to execute Liquid Glass (it has been horrendously fractured since WWDC25), but the fact that a third of their 165k employees are software engineers. Without working software, the entire kingdom comes crashing down (at least in my eyes) and we are right back to utter mediocrity.
I do agree with you about how tim cook has become almost like a shill for apple but the USB 2.0? I mean unless there is something to utilise with USB 3.0 speeds like with the ipad and its external display, there isn't much reason to move over.
 
Does anyone else feel its less performant too?
It is. Quantifiably. To get Liquid Glass working, Apple had to add a graphical shader to the UI. This comes on top of all the blur and existing shaders. If you’ve ever played games on emulators and used shaders like Geom or CRT type effects, you understand and appreciate how expensive they are. Apple’s LG uses multiple effects, from gamma shifts, to warping and blurs. I have no doubt future SoC will offload much of that work to specific hardware clusters (similar to video encoding and decoding) to improve performance, but you can’t come close with software. Anyone that’s ever tried to play a game using software rendering should be nodding incessantly right now.

I have real data to show how abysmal it is compared to performance on iOS 18 snd it’s not good. I am on an M4 iPad Pro and most apps get ejected under OS26 simply by using Safari with no more than 6 tabs. It feels like my 4th gen Air.
 
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I have real data to show how abysmal it is compared to performance on iOS 18 snd it’s not good. I am on an M4 iPad Pro and most apps get ejected under OS26 simply by using Safari with no more than 6 tabs. It feels like my 4th gen Air.
I'm on iPadOS26.1 beta 3 on my base ipad A16 and throughout most of the beta software, I've had higher than average geek bench scores compared to iPadOS 18.

(Latest one before moving to iPadOS 26 beta)IpadOS 18.5: 2597/6246

iPadOS 26.1 beta 3: 2730/6553

ipadOS26.0 beta 2 (when I first joined the beta): 2603/6229

ipadOS26.0 beta 3: 2613/6237

ipadOS26.0 beta 8: 2604/6265

All CPU benchmarks
 
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How dare you actually enjoy all of the improvements and flexibility added in 26 ;) The other day I FaceTimed my son and asked what he was doing. He turned the camera around and showed that he had is M1 12.9 IPP connected to a 27" external monitor. On the monitor he had 4 apps "quartered". He had a video window showing the MLB playoffs, Safari, Google Docs and some other app for school. On his iPad he had iMessage and WhatsApp split screen. I said "Oh, I see you are being productive LOL".
What i don’t get is, you didn’t tell your son that he could arrange his apps as quarter- monitor on his external monitor since ipados16? Kept it as a secret? I just still don’t understand why you’re presenting this like this is new functionality. I get that it’s probably better ( ?) now but.. it was doable before, you said you knew about it so what gives? I still haven’t installed ipados26 after all the bugs I am reading about and it seems i won’t for a while or untill split view and slideover get reinstated, so i still don’t get the difference.
 
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What i don’t get is, you didn’t tell your son that he could arrange his apps as quarter- monitor on his external monitor since ipados16? Kept it as a secret? I just still don’t understand why you’re presenting this like this is new functionality. I get that it’s probably better ( ?) now but.. it was doable before, you said you knew about it so what gives? I still haven’t installed ipados26 after all the bugs I am reading about and it seems i won’t for a while or untill split view and slideover get reinstated, so i still don’t get the difference.

26 vs 18 Again Maybe it would help if you actually just installed 26 instead of reposting about functionality that’s no longer relevant.
 
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What i don’t get is, you didn’t tell your son that he could arrange his apps as quarter- monitor on his external monitor since ipados16? Kept it as a secret? I just still don’t understand why you’re presenting this like this is new functionality. I get that it’s probably better ( ?) now but.. it was doable before, you said you knew about it so what gives? I still haven’t installed ipados26 after all the bugs I am reading about and it seems i won’t for a while or untill split view and slideover get reinstated, so i still don’t get the difference.
yes there was quarter arranged windows back in ipadOS 16 but that was in stage manager which was a mess back back then (and currently still is) and nowhere as good as windowed mode currently. The new functionality now is that you can place the windows anywhere you want instead of a set position and aren't restricted to 5 app windows.

The bugs for me at least, I haven't really seen much on the 26.1 beta 3 version. Slideover got reinstated though I've found it more useful as a pinning tool more than anything. I don't really see splitview being done as a separate option as per say but instead there would be a similar gesture to splitview just added into the windowed mode.
 
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26 vs 18 Again Maybe it would help if you actually just installed 26 instead of reposting about functionality that’s no longer relevant.
Well, i’ve asked you indeed and you just described that windows are now fully resizable which sounds meh since they were already adjustable to a great degree and they can now take up the full screen instead of leaving some space around the monitor which is also ok since the space gained is a few pixels wide. Using infinite apps also doesn’t sound exciting to me since 4 on the external and three on the ipad have always been more than enough. That just doesn’t justify the excitement for me and i am extremely curious by your enthusiasm, i have been onboard ios since the iphone 2, counting down the hours to each update. This year has been disappointing for me and I’m only trying to find any reasons to install 26, that’s why i’m asking. I just can’t afford to lose my ipad use if i absolutely hate it, especially since i won’t be able to downgrade. External monitor support has been huge for me for the last years, (but so has splitview and slideover) it’s been the reason i got a 4k monitor and i even switched to a 13 inch ipad again for the second time after my ipad pro 1st gen 12.9 of 2015, so i could take notes and keep references while reading pdfs on the monitor. I mean i invested on using it a certain way. So i’ll have to wait and see, ok.
 
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Using infinite apps also doesn’t sound exciting to me since 4 on the external and three on the ipad have always been more than enough.
apps are limited to 12 but its dependant on RAM amount

This year has been disappointing for me and I’m only trying to find any reasons to install 26, that’s why i’m asking. I just can’t afford to lose my ipad use if i absolutely hate it, especially since i won’t be able to downgrade.
There are always store devices which are updated to the latest OS and can let you try out the software. If you are scared to upgrade then maybe try the store devices first to gauge an opinion on it.
 
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apps are limited to 12 but its dependant on RAM amount


There are always store devices which are updated to the latest OS and can let you try out the software. If you are scared to upgrade then maybe try the store devices first to gauge an opinion on it.
I don’t have stores around me that would showcase an ipad on an external monitor to verify how much better this all is, which would be the only reason i would ever consider upgrading and having to deal with the new windowing system on touch when off the monitor. It would have to make a great difference to outweigh the loss of my usual workflow. Thanks for the answer and the suggestion though.
 
Well, i’ve asked you indeed and you just described that windows are now fully resizable which sounds meh since they were already adjustable to a great degree and they can now take up the full screen instead of leaving some space around the monitor which is also ok since the space gained is a few pixels wide. Using infinite apps also doesn’t sound exciting to me since 4 on the external and three on the ipad have always been more than enough. That just doesn’t justify the excitement for me and i am extremely curious by your enthusiasm, i have been onboard ios since the iphone 2, counting down the hours to each update. This year has been disappointing for me and I’m only trying to find any reasons to install 26, that’s why i’m asking. I just can’t afford to lose my ipad use if i absolutely hate it, especially since i won’t be able to downgrade. External monitor support has been huge for me for the last years, (but so has splitview and slideover) it’s been the reason i got a 4k monitor and i even switched to a 13 inch ipad again for the second time after my ipad pro 1st gen 12.9 of 2015, so i could take notes and keep references while reading pdfs on the monitor. I mean i invested on using it a certain way. So i’ll have to wait and see, ok.

If limited apps and not being able to freely and fully use the available space isn’t important then there may not be reasons to upgrade. My son had at least 10 apps open as he also had two other stages one with X/Instagram and Mail/Calendar. That may not be important to you but having that flexibility is an improvement.

The space gained around the border is more than a few pixels because it’s cumulative meaning there’s padding top, bottom and sides. Plus IIRC there was some padding between windows so that’s less viewable content in each window. May not matter on a 32” 4K monitor but on the iPad screen or smaller external monitors I want as much space as possible and I never understood why that “border” was added. It wasn’t there in earlier versions of Stage Manager.
 
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ipad OS 26 speed wise is fine. I did not notice any speed hits on M1 Air and latest Mini. Not much different in concept from the original Jobs' aqua interface. It probably flies on M5 and is optimized for it. For older ipads, probably best to stay on iOS 18 or 17
Wish 26 had a proper desktop though.
 
You’re definitely not alone, a lot of users feel the same about iPadOS 26’s UX changes, especially the multitasking system. Apple seems to be experimenting with new ideas, but it’s made navigation feel more complicated than before. Hopefully, the beta feedback will push them to simplify things and bring back the smooth, intuitive experience iPads are known for.
 
They’ve fixed it in the latest 26.1 beta build. Safari is much better.
 

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yes there was quarter arranged windows back in ipadOS 16 but that was in stage manager which was a mess back back then (and currently still is) and nowhere as good as windowed mode currently. The new functionality now is that you can place the windows anywhere you want instead of a set position and aren't restricted to 5 app windows.

The bugs for me at least, I haven't really seen much on the 26.1 beta 3 version. Slideover got reinstated though I've found it more useful as a pinning tool more than anything. I don't really see splitview being done as a separate option as per say but instead there would be a similar gesture to splitview just added into the windowed mode.
I love how people continue to defend the new windowing mode as some great discovery.

macOS somehow managed to figure out windowing years ago.
  • Split View has been in Mac since 10.11 and doesn't require disabling resizable windows to support it
  • Fullscreen alongside Split View and resizable windows
  • Multiple desktops so you can arrange windows on different desktops and get rid of clutter (having everything either in the app switcher or the current single resizable desktop space is pathetic)
  • Drag and drop to rearrange what windows are on each desktop
    • I think it was iPadOS 16 that finally got this right in app expose where you could drag apps in and out of split views, the fact they still haven't figured this out for stage manager or the new window manager is just disgraceful.
    • The inability to do easy window management means the new system is just as bad and restrictive as the old one (stage manager) just with a new coat of paint...
Expose ran on a potato back in the day, I remember installing OS X Panther on my iMac and while there were some jitters in the Exposé view it still worked with dozens of windows. The fact that Apple is struggling to make this work on modern hardware is just embarrassing...

I can't believe people are defending the windowing mode given all of its limitations and restrictions ... how was Apple in 2003, with a fraction of the resources of today, able to get Exposé so correct while modern Apple can't?
 
I can't believe people are defending the windowing mode given all of its limitations and restrictions ... how was Apple in 2003, with a fraction of the resources of today, able to get Exposé so correct while modern Apple can't?
We had our share of exchanges and I know you don't care for Stage Manager, but it's kind of ironic stating that this new windowing mode has limitations and restrictions when iPadOS 18 is limited and restricted. We were restricted while limited to only TWO windows and another (SlideOver) window was layered over top... obstructed the view from the other TWO windows.

And you keep bringing up resizing windows as a requirement to do multitasking... when you can use the windowing titling via the traffic lights.
 
We had our share of exchanges and I know you don't care for Stage Manager, but it's kind of ironic stating that this new windowing mode has limitations and restrictions when iPadOS 18 is limited and restricted. We were restricted while limited to only TWO windows and another (SlideOver) window was layered over top... obstructed the view from the other TWO windows.

And you keep bringing up resizing windows as a requirement to do multitasking... when you can use the windowing titling via the traffic lights.
I actually don't think resizing is a requirement, my big complaints are mostly around the manipulation of windows - specifically how they can't seem figure out how to support drag and drop.
  • In iPadOS 18 with split view + slide-over I can use drag and drop from the Exposé view to:
    • easily and intuitively move windows between fullscreen and split view
    • easily drag windows between split views
    • easily drag windows in and out of slide over
  • I also think limiting the user to a single resizable space/desktop is annoying where iPadOS 18 let you have as many Split View configurations as you wanted
  • macOS also lets you have as many desktops/spaces as you want for better window organization
    • You can drag and drop windows between desktops/spaces on macOS which is something you can't really do on stage manger or the new windowed mode
    • You also can't turn off stacking in stage manger, a perennial gripe of that mode and something that was bad when they introduced it on the Mac too (and was thankfully rolled back on the Mac)
I look at what we had back in 2003, over 20 years ago, on macOS (Mac OS X at the time) and I can't help but be disappointed.

It isn't that the new resizable mode isn't useful, it bugs me that they took away some limitations and added a whole batch of new limitations and called it progress. There is so much low hanging fruit that they could fix but instead they just keep reinventing the wheel over and over again...
 
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