Best bang for your buck by a mile, still. Even with the gripes about iPadOS 26.A16.
Best bang for your buck by a mile, still. Even with the gripes about iPadOS 26.A16.
I’m aware. People tend to have opinions on things they’ve invested in.90% of the people on here spent money on it.
On my M4 iPad Pro, Public Beta 2 was very slow and janky, but PB3 is buttery smooth. So I’d give it a try if you have time to spare.I reverted back to iPad OS18. Not only is it shocking how much smoother and faster SplitView and SlideOver are than the new multitasking - it's actually amazing how much smoother the OS feels overall on my M1 iPad Pro. Maybe it's showing it's age - but on iPad OS18 everything is super fast and butter smooth. On the iPad OS26 PB2 everything felt very slow, janky and buggy. Hopefully that at least will be sorted out by the final release. But I'm actually a little hesitant about that. I wonder if a September release window is actually a bit too soon for the state that it's currently in.
I'll stick on iPad OS18 until - hopefully - public outcry forces Apple te restore the older features, once this thing starts rolling out to the general public.
Yep and some of them look for things to get upset about. Glad we agreeI’m aware. People tend to have opinions on things they’ve invested in.
Nope. Voicing opinions at what is clearly a controversial change on a forum dedicated to that discourse ≠ looking for things to get upset aboutYep and some of them look for things to get upset about. Glad we agree
Nah not upset at all. I enjoy reading it. It’s people’s own time and money and theirs to decide how to spend it.Nope. Voicing opinions at what is clearly a controversial change on a forum dedicated to that discourse ≠ looking for things to get upset about
I could say the same to you then, you seem to be looking for people to be upset with.
Yes, yes and yes. That one line can summarize what I expect from any Apple device, not just iPad. And ease of use focused UI is almost non-existent in modern Apple operating systems. I gotta jump thru the hoops to have something working like I want it to.ease-of-use focused UX.
Hey, please. Stop. You wrote what most of us think about that! I hope mods decide not to delete this one because in my opinion everything is on-point. Steve Jobs indeed would have never approved this trash that is now produced by billion lines of code by Apple’s dev team.I’ve asked the mods for the post to be deleted. I don’t know if they will, but I’m done.
Check my replies below if you like. This was a simple vent/rant that’s turned way too ugly for my liking.
Absolutely. And you inspired me to make a post but more global one: about the ease of use in iOS, iPad OS and macOS. How Apple complicates everything year by year.A rant here is not intended to change things on Apple’s end, it to engage in conversation (and relieve a little frustration, lol). That’s literally the point of forums.
No you aren't. I have 2 iPads (11" and 13" iPad Pro). I use my 11" in full screen mode as a media consumption device and my 13" mainly with a MKB and at times hooked up to a 32" monitor. iPadOS 26 is a giant step forward for my uses. I never used Split View so the complaints about it don't apply to my use case.Am I the only one enjoying iPadOS26? I think it's really cool, and a definite step in teh right direction.
words matter. there is a difference between use case, workflow, purpose and reason. If you think otherwise, well…You seem very stuck on your interpretation of the phrase “use case” and want to nitpick as to what that’s supposed to mean.
Use case, workflow, purpose, reason to buy an iPad, whatever you want to call it.
There are plenty of use cases (or however you wish to describe it) for someone to own an iPad Pro over an iPad. Are you trying to argue there isn’t? If you edit video, you may need the higher refresh rate, or the more accurate colors. You might need the Thunderbolt 4 for faster data transfer. You might need the extra storage that you can only get on a Pro. The faster chip to export video. The bigger screen. The LiDAR Scanner. Etc.
It’s no different than a professional video editor opting to buy a Mac Studio over a Mac mini, or a Mac Pro over an iMac. They have different use cases for it and therefore need the more powerful device.
Now circle all the way back to the original argument you replied to. Someone who goes to the Apple Store and sees their whole lineup, from a base iPad, to the Air, to the 2 different Pro Versions. The person who says: I really only need the iPad for $329 I don’t need the $1,099 iPad Pro, or I want the smallest form factor iPad mini. That person is more often than not, not a power user and is never going to hook up a mouse, keyboard, and external monitor, thus a different use case.
This isn’t great. However the flicking does make it slightly less jarring. I’ve heard people talking about that flicking but that never worked for me. Is that supposed to work with touch, trackpad, or both?
This is an excellent point. After my wife got the new iPad Air, I looked into one for myself with the magic keyboard figuring with iPadOS that I could have a "good enough" Macbook-like device. That option was going to cost me essentially the same as a base Macbook Air.but the combination of a decent iPad with a folio enters, or exceeds, MacBook pricing territory.
I don’t think otherwise. I was using a broad sense of the term, and used other nouns to make it even broader because you weren’t comprehending.words matter. there is a difference between use case, workflow, purpose and reason. If you think otherwise, well…
I agree with this. And I would add, as an ‘in-between’ or companion product, the iPad has been outstanding and innovating. The base model iPad is still the best value for media and moderate production. Even though I think iPadOS 26 is clunky, the fact that the cheapest iPad can run it is still impressive.My attitude is that you have either a Mac or an iPad, because both excel at what they are intended for.
This ‘in-between’ solution (that Apple themselves criticised Microsoft for) doesn’t make sense to me from a portability or value standpoint; not only is it thicker and virtually as heavy as a MacBook, but the combination of a decent iPad with a folio enters, or exceeds, MacBook pricing territory.
But the high end line is not really tied to iPadOS related features... it's based on hardware features.Where I take issue: IMO the high end line was never being fully able to justify the price and promise as a viable laptop alternative, so Apple has tried to add features to iPadOS to justify the cost of their high end product, but to the detriment of the ease of use of their budget friendly products.
How was Stage Manager a miss if it still exist? And they didn't start over, just made changes to it (better freedom of movement, removed the 4 window limit, windows are able to keep their size and added the traffic lights to help with window tiling).This entire iPadOS 26 revamp would support that. It suggests Stage Manager was a miss and that they had to start over.
If anything I argue it's more consistent across the board... before the base iPad or the Mini couldn't use Stage Manager, now it's all coherent. And for those non-tech savvy people.. they can keep it in full screen mode.Now it seems as convoluted as ever. The iPad used to be a frictionless product for non-tech savvy people to pick up and put to use with a very low learning curve.
This is an excellent point. I think part of the problem with iPad currently is an identity crisis, which exists because the OS has a one foot in its roots and another in a different paradigm of computing, yet the two effectively cancel each other out.(…) But now, the amount of steps required to know for efficient use for ALL iPads is heading in the wrong direction, IMO.
The counter to this is: assuming most people are not technical like people here, I'd venture to guess most people use their iPads in full screen mode and will continue to do so with iPadOS 26 and will not notice what you see and hence won't care. A much smaller number of "power users" use things like slide over and stage manager and they are divided about it being a mess or an improvement. For my uses, the new windows system is a noticeable improvement in usability and a big improvement over slide over and stage manager. Others clearly feel differently, but that is not likely to be a big number of users.This is an excellent point. I think part of the problem with iPad currently is an identity crisis, which exists because the OS has a one foot in its roots and another in a different paradigm of computing, yet the two effectively cancel each other out.
We must remember that, as forum members, we are accustomed to using these devices fairly confidently, but not all users have a background in wider computing.
I dislike referring to Steve Jobs or Apple of old simply because at this point it’s become a running joke, but it is indeed quite remarkable just how disjointed iPadOS is today compared to the earliest software.
I’m not suggesting that these early devices were better simply because they had yet to land more modern features, rather that they were more enjoyable to use precisely because they represented a different category of device. A device simple and intuitive enough to be used by anyone, in a leisurely or professional manner.
Job’s initial demo of the iPad on stage in a relaxed chair said everything you needed to know about the device without even using it. It was intimate; there were no hidden menus, few gestures to learn, no distracting user interface, no convoluted settings.
iPad today is the result of Apple not learning from its own criticisms of other manufacturers, and trying to open up new markets but not really being particularly great in them. Eye candy like Liquid Glass adds nothing to productivity, and I fear that continual traditional computing features will only serve to make iPad less of the “it just works” device that kept one focused, whereas Mac has been refined with the same modes of computing for decades.
This was so well put. Bravo.This is an excellent point. I think part of the problem with iPad currently is an identity crisis, which exists because the OS has a one foot in its roots and another in a different paradigm of computing, yet the two effectively cancel each other out.
We must remember that, as forum members, we are accustomed to using these devices fairly confidently, but not all users have a background in wider computing.
I dislike referring to Steve Jobs or Apple of old simply because at this point it’s become a running joke, but it is indeed quite remarkable just how disjointed iPadOS is today compared to the earliest software.
I’m not suggesting that these early devices were better simply because they had yet to land more modern features, rather that they were more enjoyable to use precisely because they represented a different category of device. A device simple and intuitive enough to be used by anyone, in a leisurely or professional manner.
Job’s initial demo of the iPad on stage in a relaxed chair said everything you needed to know about the device without even using it. It was intimate; there were no hidden menus, few gestures to learn, no distracting user interface, no convoluted settings.
iPad today is the result of Apple not learning from its own criticisms of other manufacturers, and trying to open up new markets but not really being particularly great in them. Eye candy like Liquid Glass adds nothing to productivity, and I fear that continual traditional computing features will only serve to make iPad less of the “it just works” device that kept one focused, whereas Mac has been refined with the same modes of computing for decades.
And every criticism of the iPad Pro since its launch is that is that the hardware inside an iPad Pro is wasted on iPadOS. Which it is. The exact same internals working inside of macOS are not only cheaper but they’re more capable.But the high end line is not really tied to iPadOS related features... it's based on hardware features.
I think we can agree Stage Manager was certainly not received as a “hit.” If it wasn’t a hit, then what was it? I think it’s accurate to say Stage Manager, while ambitious, was a major swing and miss for the company. I have never seen a bigger public display of disapproval for any Apple software launch that I can remember. iPadOS 26, to me at least, screams forget about Stage Manager! This is completely different than that! We’ve changed everything about it!How was Stage Manager a miss if it still exist? And they didn't start over, just made changes to it (better freedom of movement, removed the 4 window limit, windows are able to keep their size and added the traffic lights to help with window tiling).
I’d argue that this is not akin to a choosing between a MacBook Air and a MacBook Pro and therefore doesn’t need the same consistency.If anything I argue it's more consistent across the board... before the base iPad or the Mini couldn't use Stage Manager, now it's all coherent. And for those non-tech savvy people.. they can keep it in full screen mode.