iPad Pro IPadOS - yuck

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How can you tell Steve Jobs is dead and Jony Ive left the building - iPadOS and iOS13. Both are suffering from design bloat and slight - but annoying - interface changes.

It starts on the home screen. Before, a long hold on an icon brought up the shaking icons. Now you first get an unnecessary pop-up menu that doesn’t even have all the choices you need. Also throughout the OS, why were all the redesigned pop-up windows moved to the left of the link? Where is the right/left handed option some other programs have?

In Mail - start a new message and "new message" is across the top in overly large letters. In Safari, columns now float over other columns blocking the view of the one on the left. Click on a Safari link, and now the pop-up window of options takes longer to come up. If you go to markup after a screen shot, the palette takes up way too much space. Why this is being described in the press as a "new" feature is idiotic - it’s been there for years.

Sure, all those drop shadows look pretty, but the design seems to have triggered a performance hit. I am on the latest iPad Pro - so outdated equipment isn’t an issue.

I am not one of those Apple-hater trolls. I use an iPhone, 2 iPads and an iMac, but I am definitely disappointed in some of the design changes where form seems to have won out over function.
 

augustya

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Adding to whatever you have mentioned I also feel this iPad OS is kind of slow in things iOS 12 was snappy in every aspect !!
 

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How can you tell Steve Jobs is dead and Jony Ive left the building - iPadOS and iOS13. Both are suffering from design bloat and slight - but annoying - interface changes.
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Contextual menus being on the left makes sense to me. The widgets live on the left side of the home screen, if the contextual menu popped up on the right, it wouldn't fit the screen. It's not like it is a mile way from where the old menus were. I use the contextual menus all the time, so I like them and use the shortcuts they can provide on apps that support them.

For the screenshot tools, they are movable and you can minimize them down to a single tool and swipe to the side. This is sticky so the next time you do a screenshot you get the smaller tool palette that can be expanded as needed, or kept small.

I take the trade-off in some questionable design choices for all of the new functionality (finally) activated on iPad.
 
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Aydy

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In safari, do the bookmark icons look horribly low resolution for anyone else? They look horrendous on my 10.5 (ipadOS) while my 12.9 (12.4) look fine
 

DevMops

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Exactly. I am experiencing huge amount of bugs. I still can’t believe that this is a release version (and not some kind of beta). Hopefully they will fix that soon enough (maybe even in 13.1.1)
 

Richard8655

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I'm not taking any chances with performance bog downs or glitches. I can happily wait until after a few updates to this version.
 
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Contextual menus being on the left makes sense to me. The widgets live on the left side of the home screen, if the contextual menu popped up on the right, it wouldn't fit the screen. It's not like it is a mile way from where the old menus were. I use the contextual menus all the time, so I like them and use the shortcuts they can provide on apps that support them.
Same here. I think having a menu pop up when you hold the app icon is great. It's something iPad owners couldn't do because we didn't have 3D Touch.
 
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theluggage

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How can you tell Steve Jobs is dead and Jony Ive left the building - iPadOS and iOS13. Both are suffering from design bloat and slight - but annoying - interface changes.

I've only played with it for about 10 minutes and already been thrown by:

Mail - to get Flag/Mark/Move or for the only way to delete an individual message in a thread... tap on "Reply" icon....
App Store: to update apps, tap the 'Account' icon.

Not big, long-term problems but, seriously, did they design the UI by rolling dice?

Don't think Ive would have prevented this sort of thing though.
 

Aydy

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They look fine in both my 10.5 Pro and 2018 12.9 Pro (both 13.1.1).
Thanks. Something is up with mine. The update install seemed to go fine but I’m noticing this unsightly change in bookmarks and also in some settings menu items. The text looks off and blurred
 

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To me it’s just one buggy mess.. and to have the split windows go full screen in half the display, on iOS 12 a quick flick and it filled half the screen. Now with iPad Os you have to drag it all the way down to the bottom, try not to close it or activate anything else and if your lucky it’ll fill half the screen! It’s crap!! Why the hell did they change something so simple that just, worked?

Both iOS 13 and iPad Os are buggy, I sure hope Apple hasn’t returned to its iOS 11 days.. I’ll leave the platform if it does. I very very nearly did with iOS 11 as it was just such an utter buggy mess.

13.1.1 hasn’t changed the memory issues by the way. Apps still constantly reload all the time. I also noticed on my XR I cannot turn off location services for some apps! And Apple prompts privacy.. and after this update the keyboard doesn’t come up in Safari.. I’ve typed this on my iPhone, I’ll have to see if I can get it working.
One huge buggy mess.

Oh and yes, I agree with the daft design choice in how you update apps now. Just so Apple can promote Apple Arcade.

Edit:: a hard restart of my iPad got the keyboard back in Safari.
 
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My biggest gripe with iPadOS is the Files app. It wasn't thoroughly tested.

Try renaming an iCloud file in Files and you will see what I mean. If you're lucky Files won't crash. Then you *might* see two text selector handles but you won't see the actual text of the file name you are renaming. You can take a guess at what you are typing and press enter but you can't actually see what is being typed between the floating-in-space text handles.
 

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My biggest gripe with iPadOS is the Files app. It wasn't thoroughly tested.

Try renaming an iCloud file in Files and you will see what I mean. If you're lucky Files won't crash. Then you *might* see two text selector handles but you won't see the actual text of the file name you are renaming. You can take a guess at what you are typing and press enter but you can't actually see what is being typed between the floating-in-space text handles.
not having that issue here.
 
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digitalexplr

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I disagree with pretty much everything op said. I love iPadOS, it’s fast and makes the iPad feel like an iPad. Great job Apple
Agree completely. I have been running 13 on my iPP 11 since db2(or 3, don’t recall for sure) and have had only minor issues throughout the beta process.

iPadOS has really changed the functionality of the iPad and is making it more and more a laptop replacement.
 
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RevTEG

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PadOS is running great for my families 10.5 pro and current gen 12.9. Been running it since the second bata. The bugs I had were fixed and just got better and better with each release. I love the pop up menu in apps. Apple even shows how to use them in several of their new support videos. I will say that having to go to the account pic to find app updates seem silly. But that's not a bug. Overall I think PadOS is incredible.
 
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doboy

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How can you tell Steve Jobs is dead and Jony Ive left the building - iPadOS and iOS13. Both are suffering from design bloat and slight - but annoying - interface changes.

It starts on the home screen. Before, a long hold on an icon brought up the shaking icons. Now you first get an unnecessary pop-up menu that doesn’t even have all the choices you need. Also throughout the OS, why were all the redesigned pop-up windows moved to the left of the link? Where is the right/left handed option some other programs have?
As for shaking icons, you just have to hold down the icon for a fraction of a sec and starting moving it. Don't need to wait for the contextual menu.
 
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