I wonder if 26 had made them worse... I have my M4 13 on 18 and my M5 13 on 26.1 and the M4 is clearly louder, it was when the M5 was on 26.0 and it still is now on 26.1. My M1 is on 26.1 too, has it become louder? Not sure, it's very close to the M4 (can't tell which one is louder, they sound slightly different and they are both louder than the M5).my ipad 13 inch m4 speakers are MUCH louder on this update. No idea if they werent working properly before or what, but ive alwyas thought they were quiet, now after this update they literally make my ears ache full volume.
I’m seeing a new bug in Safari, where the controls at the top switch to dark mode when Safari loses and then regains focus.View attachment 2576287
I know it’s not a huge deal but the collective weight of these small things is really getting on my nerves. 😠
If your talking reload times then yeah, the A16 ipad is probably not the best cause of the RAM but anything else I literally I can’t see a difference in. Its just a bit stuttery when the windows are congested but that can be improved when they start improving the OS effiecency.Hasn't really fixed the DRASTIC relative slowdown across everything I have since 26. That relative difference compared to before is noticeable on my A16 iPads - every transition is accompanied by a delay. I can understand e.g. 4-6 year old iPads having the same issue, but not something i bought less than a year ago.
It is ridiculous that the latest iPad encounters basic OS lag, regardless of RAM. I have mine on iPadOS 18 and it is flawless.Hasn't really fixed the DRASTIC relative slowdown across everything I have since 26. That relative difference compared to before is noticeable on my A16 iPads - every transition is accompanied by a delay. I can understand e.g. 4-6 year old iPads having the same issue, but not something i bought less than a year ago.
A decade old multitasking system vs not even a year old multitasking system.It is ridiculous that the latest iPad encounters basic OS lag, regardless of RAM. I have mine on iPadOS 18 and it is flawless.
The latest device always worked properly.A decade old multitasking system vs not even a year old multitasking system.
The latest device always worked properly.
Our standards are non-existent now?
Well, if people like it when an avoidable iOS update worsens quality, let them install it.Seems that way.
I'm still trying to digest how I was told last week that "it doesn't matter" if Apple gets the shadows right on their graphics.
If we have no standards, Apple (or anyone) will cater to that level.
Companies tend to go for whatever they can get away with.
Well, if people like it when an avoidable iOS update worsens quality, let them install it.
They suffer the consequences, not me.
Developers are garbage when it comes to that. But yeah, if you require the latest all the time, then I guess you have no choice. It typically doesn’t happen though. You can wait until August before installing 26. Maybe it’s better by then, at least on the latest devices.As we've discussed, I agree with you except that Apps eventually start rug pulling support and folks are left with no choice eventually. (how long one can go depends upon specific user needs)
The situation is awful.
Developers are garbage when it comes to that. But yeah, if you require the latest all the time, then I guess you have no choice. It typically doesn’t happen though. You can wait until August before installing 26. Maybe it’s better by then, at least on the latest devices.
Some reports of 26.1 have mentioned improvements, but I wouldn’t be too confident based on that. Most say it’s still far from 18.
Never implied that our standard are ‘non-existent’. I’m saying that I expect a different standard from a near decade old splitview to a barely year old windowing mode. You don’t expect a child to act like an adult and you don’t expect a adult to act like a child. The same philosophy applies here.The latest device always worked properly.
Our standards are non-existent now?
I would stop using that app immediately. I see that it requires iOS 18. An app that supports no major versions is an app I will not even download to try.This is part of why I had to stop using Overcast (podcasts).
Marco actively looks forward to when he can "only support the latest iOS", as he reiterated in the latest ATP episode.
Obviously, do what you have to do as an indie, but it's the opposite of what I'm looking for out of a podcast player.
That's the sort of App that should support the widest range of OS versions possible.
Yeah til the "upgrade" it worked like a relatively new iPad - that is, you didn't notice anything about how it worked. You swiped, it did its thing. You tapped, it did it's thing. No longer. I'm frequently jarred out of the "not drawing attention" usage experience by the sudden onset of lag.It is ridiculous that the latest iPad encounters basic OS lag, regardless of RAM. I have mine on iPadOS 18 and it is flawless.
The fact that it works just fine on iPadOS 18 tells you that it is possible.Yeah til the "upgrade" it worked like a relatively new iPad - that is, you didn't notice anything about how it worked. You swiped, it did its thing. You tapped, it did it's thing. No longer. I'm frequently jarred out of the "not drawing attention" usage experience by the sudden onset of lag.
This is pretty much across the board to different degrees according to the hardware at the moment, but either way you shouldn't need an M3 for that lag to be relatively difficult to notice (even while present). The fact that it has possibly improved slightly with .1 is presumably indicative of the fact that that can be done.
I honestly don't really know what the justification is for this Vista 2.0 aestheitc though: Admittedly I'm biased - I'm Flat 4 Lif, but the performance degredation makes it doubly redundant.
There's actually a good reason I updated - i was sorta hyped about the multitasking features, but that's actually turned out to be a wash because the new multitasking makes the iPad actually quite touch unfriendly in the end. Definitely needs work.The fact that it works just fine on iPadOS 18 tells you that it is possible.
But still, sorry if it sounds combative, but it is how I feel: hopefully, next time, you and others think twice before updating.
Complaining after the fact achieves nothing. Adoption rates plummeting sends a message. Updating and then complaining does nothing.
Now, again, sorry if it sounds combative, but if you knew that you didn’t like it, why did you update? The design was public beforehand, and you knew that updates are irreversible. Why did you do it? Honest question.
My approach is clear: stay behind no matter what because I don’t upgrade frequently and I like quality devices. Yours is different. Why?
The Feedback is more genuine once you’ve actually spent time to use the OS imo. Basing your opinion on other people without trying the OS itself doesn’t make me believe them especially if there already has been a fix for it.The fact that it works just fine on iPadOS 18 tells you that it is possible.
But still, sorry if it sounds combative, but it is how I feel: hopefully, next time, you and others think twice before updating.
Complaining after the fact achieves nothing. Adoption rates plummeting sends a message. Updating and then complaining does nothing.
Now, again, sorry if it sounds combative, but if you knew that you didn’t like it, why did you update? The design was public beforehand, and you knew that updates are irreversible. Why did you do it? Honest question.
My approach is clear: stay behind no matter what because I don’t upgrade frequently and I like quality devices. Yours is different. Why?
This exact reaction has been ubiquitous here and elsewhere. The multitasking emulates MacOS but not quite and it kills touch-first multitasking. It’s sad that Apple listens to the minority that wants this.There's actually a good reason I updated - i was sorta hyped about the multitasking features, but that's actually turned out to be a wash because the new multitasking makes the iPad actually quite touch unfriendly in the end. Definitely needs work.
But they aren’t. Perceived security isn’t worth practically killing the device, and this means that you’ll be running behind updates no matter what they do to your devices for perceived security. It’s a total loss, imo, but you see it that way, well, you’ll sadly have to suffer the consequences.There's also going to be new fully accounted for mitigations for risks etc when it comes to a *current* os version. Old os's might get the most critical elements of those but the longer you leave it the more you'll be left behind. Apple's relatively aggressive upgrade schedule allied to their key sells (security, privacy, and all that which Apple can't actually usefully deliver on outside of marketing BS, especially from when security through obscurity ceased to be an Apple advantage) means the hook is on them to be competent at stuff like this.