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Just read in the review by TheVerge that „you can switch between lenses if you shoot at 4K30“.

Any opinions on that? I think this is actually a bummer for a so-called pro camera. Think of sports videos, where a seamless zoom feature really comes in handy. Definitely requires 60fps frame rate.
 
Just read in the review by TheVerge that „you can switch between lenses if you shoot at 4K30“.

Any opinions on that? I think this is actually a bummer for a so-called pro camera. Think of sports videos, where a seamless zoom feature really comes in handy. Definitely requires 60fps frame rate.

Maybe I use my phone for different things than you use your phone, like I don't try to shoot big screen tv, ESPN production quality video on my phone. I'm sure the video quality is very good even though you may not be able to instantaniously switch lenses shooting at 60fps. Try it out and if you don't like it, wait for the next version. Maybe it will be supported then. Otherwise, you can always invest in a pro video camera to do that.

Just my opinion, but the word Pro by Apple is marketing. Nothing more.

Update: After watching TheVerge video review (https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/17/...mera-battery-life-screen-midnight-green-price) they said the same thing. Pro is marketing and they said the camera is the best on any phone.
 
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I agree with you OP
It’s indeed a bummer, annoyed me that the XS couldn’t switch between the 2 and so when you zoomed in during recording it would use the horrible digital zoom. Totally unintuitive to stop recording, then switch, and restart. Now it will be worse with 3 to have to choose from upfront.
At least this one we will have hdr recording at 4k60
 
I agree with you OP
It’s indeed a bummer, annoyed me that the XS couldn’t switch between the 2 and so when you zoomed in during recording it would use the horrible digital zoom. Totally unintuitive to stop recording, then switch, and restart. Now it will be worse with 3 to have to choose from upfront.
At least this one we will have hdr recording at 4k60

Are you sure? I think it was possible to switch while recording, but not with a seamless zoom.

Edit: you are right.
 
4k 60fps encoding is a serious load. It would be nice, but you guys are getting a bit ahead of the hardware with that request. Im assuming they can do 'seamless' transitions at lower qualities because they are always double recording into a buffer they can switch to automatically, and Id assume at 4k 60fps they simply do not have the overhead for that extra processing.
 
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4k 60fps encoding is a serious load. It would be nice, but you guys are getting a bit ahead of the hardware with that request. Im assuming they can do 'seamless' transitions at lower qualities because they are always double recording into a buffer they can switch to automatically, and Id assume at 4k 60fps they simply do not have the overhead for that extra processing.

I definitely don't think Apple was holding out and saving it for next year. I am hopeful the a14 chip will solve that next year though.
 
4k 60fps encoding is a serious load. It would be nice, but you guys are getting a bit ahead of the hardware with that request. Im assuming they can do 'seamless' transitions at lower qualities because they are always double recording into a buffer they can switch to automatically, and Id assume at 4k 60fps they simply do not have the overhead for that extra processing.

My android phone can do it also in 4k30fps. Where's the diference vs A13 bionic then?

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I think you're mixing up frame rate with shutter speed. Sports are generally shot at 30 fps. When shooting stills, you want a fast shutter speed to freeze motion. However, that doesn't apply to video, because you typically want natural looking motion, which is not what you get with fast shutter speeds.

Apart from that, yeah, bit of a bummer that you can't change lenses while shooting 4k60.

Just read in the review by TheVerge that „you can switch between lenses if you shoot at 4K30“.

Any opinions on that? I think this is actually a bummer for a so-called pro camera. Think of sports videos, where a seamless zoom feature really comes in handy. Definitely requires 60fps frame rate.
 
But where's the difference in snapdragon Vs A13, as they claim it to be underwhelming...?
It's not seamless. The new iPhone primes the other lenses in realtime so it matches exposure and focus. Then, as you zoom in it will transition without a sudden snap or jerking transition.
 
It's the same seamless experience for me.
If I'm not wrong, I think it's a feature from 2018 phones. The dual camera previous phone I had also did that perfectly. It was Lg G7. Don't remember if in the same resolution...
 
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It's not perfectly seamless in the iPhones either, looking at the videos released today. However, the iPhone seems to be the only one that can achieve the same white balance on all 3 lenses for some reason.
 
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