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winterny

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Just as a FYI, If you use a USB-C PD charger capable of it, The iPhone 11 Pro Max can charge at up to 2.3 Amps @ 9 Volts = 20.7 Watts.

I personally carry a Macbook 30 Watt charger around with me, so it's a nice surprise for extra fast charging :)
 

JPack

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Seems to be higher according to tests, just over 25W.

The guys at CDT confirmed this last week.

 

winterny

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Seems to be higher according to tests, just over 25W.

The guys at CDT confirmed this last week.

Nice!

I didn’t do a very thorough test, just tried a couple of chargers, with charge state around 30%. Great to see that it’s actually even faster than I measured.

Looks like the 18 watt charger will just sit unused since I have a always travel with a charger at least 30 watts or more.
 

winterny

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I know it’s not exactly the same, but, I’ve had a Tesla for 4 years, and use the supercharger frequently and have had less than 4% degradation.

Quick charging doesn’t need to be hard on the batteries as long as thermals are well managed. The things that kill lithium batteries are heat, time below 10%, time above 90%, and high current draw when below 20%.

I doubt the amount of heat generated by charging over 20W is worse than the heat generated by Qi.
 

kid1230

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I know it’s not exactly the same, but, I’ve had a Tesla for 4 years, and use the supercharger frequently and have had less than 4% degradation.

Quick charging doesn’t need to be hard on the batteries as long as thermals are well managed. The things that kill lithium batteries are heat, time below 10%, time above 90%, and high current draw when below 20%.

I doubt the amount of heat generated by charging over 20W is worse than the heat generated by Qi.
I was gonna say I tend to use the 12wat one from the iPad and I say as long as it’s not hot while charging then the battery shouldn’t degrade. I keep my phone cool at all times.
 

winterny

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I was gonna say I tend to use the 12wat one from the iPad and I say as long as it’s not hot while charging then the battery shouldn’t degrade. I keep my phone cool at all times.
Yep. I used either an iPad charger or a usbc charger every single time for my iPhone X, and it was still at 93% when I sold it today.
The concerns about degradation from quick charging are way overblown
 

praxis219

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Yep. I used either an iPad charger or a usbc charger every single time for my iPhone X, and it was still at 93% when I sold it today.
The concerns about degradation from quick charging are way overblown

For those who keep their phones beyond a year: the battery is a consumable item. It's so cheap to replace with Apple. I don't know why people make a big deal out of it.
 
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winterny

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For those who keep their phones beyond a year: the battery is a consumable item. It's so cheap to replace with Apple. I don't know why people make a big deal out of it.
I had my X since launch, so just under 2 years. I doubt replacing the battery at only 93% degraded reporting would have accomplished very much.

But yes, your point stands too... even if you want or need to replace the battery, it’s not like it’s going to break the bank.
 

tarsins

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I often use my MacBook Pro power adapter (87W) to charge all my stuff. I'd rather be able to charge quickly than give the next person who buys my phone a few percent of battery life.
 

Alvi

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Yeah, I don't get why people make such a fuss about battery degradation, I mean, it's surely not necessary to fast charge your phone at night but I'd love to have a super fast charger to be able to fully charge my phone quickly before going out at night.

For some people, running out of battery can mean no longer being able to get an Uber and then spend 20-30€ more on a taxi, which is about half of the cost of a brand new battery just for one incident in which it would've been a life saver to have a full charge.
 

TrueBlou

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Interesting. I’ve not been able to run my own tests yet, I only got the phone yesterday and I’m waiting on the battery depleting more. This is a far cry from even my X, which was only a couple of months old and couldn’t last half a day for me - on average at least.
 

elelunicy

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Aug 20, 2013
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Seems to be higher according to tests, just over 25W.

The guys at CDT confirmed this last week.

I didn't know Apple's 29W charger doesn't support 9V. Is that why both my X and Xs' battery degraded quickly? My X's capacity was at 79% just after 10 months of use.
 
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