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Hello everyone,

I have a dilemma : i have the iPhone X and a Sony A7 III , love the 2, and the iPhone X can not compete with my DSLR. But a lot of gear, and sometimes i wish i have my dslr for some picture. I need to have an “intention” to take my DSLR to make good picture.

I asking myself if it can be a good idea to sell back my Sony and my iPhone X and buy the iphone 11 pro (save me a lot of money), give me the minimalist stuff I’m looking for, but I’m not sure if the iphone 11 pro can finally compete with a DSLR.

and to have a more precise answer, what i do with my DSLR : picture for my client who want a website, social media picture, video for youtube, so need a versatile camera .

What do you think about that ?
 
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I have a similar set up as you (A7II) and I would not get rid of the dslr.

I mainly use mine for travel. There are some situations where the iPhone will do just fine. For example, I’m taking a trip to Tokyo in a couple months. I’ll be taking both and in all honesty, Disneyland does not need a dslr....but night street shooting, A7 wins.
 
I did more or less the same thing, selling my other camera and just using the iphone. The DSLR took far better photos than my 11 pro max does; it's not even close. However, the camera was so bulky/heavy that I couldn't be bothered to bring it anywhere. I sold the old camera after lugging it around a zoo for a day.

The iphone works fine for social media and casual photos. Portrait mode is pretty good, and you'd probably be fine taking a website portrait in good lighting. However, if you really need it extensively for work, stick with the DSLR.
 
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Hello everyone,

I have a dilemma : i have the iPhone X and a Sony A7 III , love the 2, and the iPhone X can not compete with my DSLR. But a lot of gear, and sometimes i wish i have my dslr for some picture. I need to have an “intention” to take my DSLR to make good picture.

I asking myself if it can be a good idea to sell back my Sony and my iPhone X and buy the iphone 11 pro (save me a lot of money), give me the minimalist stuff I’m looking for, but I’m not sure if the iphone 11 pro can finally compete with a DSLR.

and to have a more precise answer, what i do with my DSLR : picture for my client who want a website, social media picture, video for youtube, so need a versatile camera .

What do you think about that ?
I actually own both, a Sony a7III and the new iPhone 11 pro max...

tough decision, I wouldn’t suggest selling your DSLR. One option would be to maybe sell it and buy a cheaper camera? With the a7III being current, it can still go for a good amount. I do event photography, and my old canon 6D was very suitable for events where I bought my own lighting and had my own flash.
Now comparing the 11 and the Sony, the Sony is of course much better. However each has its advantages. When I travel, I completely leave my Sony a7III at home. My iPhone takes amazing photos that i will just post on social media anyway. With ample daylight, the iPhone will take great photos. But, it course, each situation will vary. The iPhone will be ok for any situation with ample lighting. It lighting is limited or varied, the A7III will be better.
 
Here's a different perspective on your situation: Keep the DSLR but keep in mind that a giant camera is a poor choice for many shots. When shooting people, fast moving situations and so forth, a camera that you carry all the time is best. Candid photos, where it is essential for the photographer not to stand out or be obvious, are better done with a unobtrusive camera--like the iPhone.

On a related subject, I think there is too much obsessing over the objective quality of photographs. And there is too little attention paid to subject matter. The idea is to not take a photograph that meets certain metrics, but a photograph that communicates something and moves the viewer. The ubiquitous iPhone might be a better choice for capturing a fleeting moment.
 
Here's a different perspective on your situation: Keep the DSLR but keep in mind that a giant camera is a poor choice for many shots. When shooting people, fast moving situations and so forth, a camera that you carry all the time is best. Candid photos, where it is essential for the photographer not to stand out or be obvious, are better done with a unobtrusive camera--like the iPhone.

On a related subject, I think there is too much obsessing over the objective quality of photographs. And there is too little attention paid to subject matter. The idea is to not take a photograph that meets certain metrics, but a photograph that communicates something and moves the viewer. The ubiquitous iPhone might be a better choice for capturing a fleeting moment.
That’s a great perspective!!
 
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NO WAY!!!!!!!!
iPhone is a great all rounder BUT it's NOT PRO!!! It's for taking photos of your friends, holidays, the same with video BUT it's NOT under any circumstance for client/professional/business use. Taking stuff on an iPhone for business would give you a true amateur look.

I travel the world doing digital marketing, nutrition & sport management. I use my iPhone X for everything BUT never in a million years for true client use.
You only have to look at video shot with the 11 Pro on YouTube to spot within 1 second that it's been filmed on a phone. It lacks the 'real' look. I can spot it instantly. It's good but it's not camera quality. It just has a different look about it and I really don't like it.

In short - the iPhone is the one thing that you can take with you for yourself. The camera is the one thing that you need for business/clients. Keep that SONY.
Remember the iPhone does 100+ things really well. It's the every day thing.
The SONY is designed to be a camera & it does that in another level!

In reality you only need 3 things - The camera, The iPhone and a MacBook Pro :) (with Apple TV for streaming your content to a OLED TV).
 
Hello everyone,

I have a dilemma : i have the iPhone X and a Sony A7 III , love the 2, and the iPhone X can not compete with my DSLR. But a lot of gear, and sometimes i wish i have my dslr for some picture. I need to have an “intention” to take my DSLR to make good picture.

I asking myself if it can be a good idea to sell back my Sony and my iPhone X and buy the iphone 11 pro (save me a lot of money), give me the minimalist stuff I’m looking for, but I’m not sure if the iphone 11 pro can finally compete with a DSLR.

and to have a more precise answer, what i do with my DSLR : picture for my client who want a website, social media picture, video for youtube, so need a versatile camera .

What do you think about that ?

Nope. Not there yet.

There’s a place for both a quality camera and an iPhone. But if you need to ask whether the iPhone can replace your DSLR, it’s probably because, for you, it can.

Few people use a DSLR for much of what it’s capable of, and that’s because to get the most out of it, you need to study photography and lighting.

The iPhone is for you, I’d imagine. Ditch the DSLR.
 
I had the same dilemma a few years back and I ended up ditching the DSLR: an iPhone is always better than a DSLR that you have left at home...

How many times in the past I have missed great chances of shooting an amazing shot just because I didn’t take the camera with me? Million of times!

The iPhone is always with you and allows you to capture unexpected moments, hidden details or unusual compositions in every moment of your life.

That’s why now I call myself iphoneographer, with no regrets.
 
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Thanks for your reply ! I do photography since 3 years and i shoot in manual mode so i know the quality of my Sony over my iPhone X but begin to be hard (when i don’t zoom in the picture), to recognize a picture from a DSLR and an iphone 11 pro for what i have seen (i try to don’t look from what the picture was taken and try to know by myself and sometimes make mistakes).

When i zoom in it’s pretty obvious. In some circumstances the DSLR is obvious (dark picture, bokeh, big screen, and some other circumstances). But for me a true photographer is about composing, take scenes, tell a story in a picture.

With the IPhone X, the story behind the picture is a bit spoil because of the quality. For the iphone 11 pro, it seem to start to be a bit better.

So i wanted feedback from people like you ;) and some sentences in my head resounds : « of constraint born creativity » or « it's not the tool that makes the craftsman » But « use a screwdriver to drive a nail » is not a good idea too ;)
 
A nit-picky little clarification here: the Sony A7 III is not a DSLR (digital single lens reflex) camera. It is a mirrorless ILC (interchangeable lens camera). Sony makes several models of mirrorless cameras, including the fixed-lens RX10 and RX100 series. The RX10 is what is considered a "bridge" camera, meaning that it has a long zoom lens which is permanently affixed to the camera. The RX100 is a small, almost pocketable, compact camera with again a fixed lens.

Perhaps you might want to check out both the RX10 and the RX100, as they might be satisfactory for you in terms of providing better image quality than the iPhone camera does, while being lighter in weight and also much more portable -- no carrying around a bagful of lenses when using the RX10 M4, as it has a range from 24mm-600mm (35mm equivalent). The smaller RX100 M6 and the new M7 both have a zoom range from 24-200mm (35mm equivalent).

The iPhone has a much smaller sensor than any DSLR or mirrorless ILC, or than the RX100 and RX10 series cameras, which is a key factor in image quality. Both DSLR and ILC cameras provide much more flexibility in the use of settings and controls, which is another important element in photography. One can control settings for aperture, shutter speed, ISO, etc., and can shoot in RAW or jpg formats. Although there are some apps which can provide limited settings controls, this still is not the same as using a full-fledged camera and the results will show it. Smartphones, including the iPhone, are depending more and more on AI technology to produce results, and while this can be useful and at times quite effective it is not the same as a photographer setting up a camera, gazing at a scene and composing it, then pressing the shutter release to get the exact results he or she is envisioning.

Not knocking the iPhone at all -- in fact this past year I have found myself using my iPhone XS more frequently than my other cameras, as, yes, it's usually with me or nearby so that when I see something interesting I can grab it and fire off a couple of shots. The iPhone has brought fun back into photography for many people, and I'm no exception! That said, when I want do something more "serious," I get out the other gear and use it. For concerts I take along the RX100 m6 and get much better results than I would with my iPhone because I have more control over the settings, which is important when dealing with stage lighting. Often when walking around my neighborhood, which features a small lake, I take the RX10 and am able to shoot just about anything from a wide-angle landscape scene to a closeup of a goose or duck doing something interesting. Again I can control the settings, using spot metering many instances or adjusting the aperture or shutter speed to achieve specific results.

Just some things to think about..... Perhaps replace the Sony A7 III and its lens(es) with something smaller and lighter weight which would still give you more impressive results than the iPhone, and also enjoy the new iPhone 11 Pro as well....
 
I’m planning to sell my DSLR now that I have the 11 Pro. I don’t need the DSLR for anything professional and the iPhone lets me take more pictures in the moment. I also always have the phone on me whereas I have to specifically bring the DSLR out and carry it around. If I needed a camera for work though, I wouldn’t rely entirely on a phone.
 
“The best camera is the one you have with you!”

If you never carry your DSLR due to bulk/weight, then it’s not much practical use anyway. BUT- as noted multiple times, you aren’t going to get the quality of a DSLR in a phone any time soon. I’ll be hiking some national parks out west in less than a month. I’ll have both with me.
 
No macro lens for iPhone.
No ability to use synced flash
Almost zero lens selection
Mediocre lens quality
No way to quickly bracket exposures

The iPhone camera is a toy. Pretty good toy. There are single lenses for DSLR cameras that cost way more than a iPhone- and that's just for one lens.

For personal snapshot use (which is the intention of iPhone camera) the iPhone is fine. I sure as hell wouldn't use it for a paying job that's for sure
 
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I asking myself if it can be a good idea to sell back my Sony and my iPhone X and buy the iphone 11 pro (save me a lot of money), give me the minimalist stuff I’m looking for, but I’m not sure if the iphone 11 pro can finally compete with a DSLR.

What do you think about that ?

I think about that is crazy... at least from my perspective.
 
I just sold my Fuji X-T2 because it was not keeping up with my kids sports. A Nikon D7500 and a sub-$500 zoom works way better. I did keep my X-E2. Before my kids were into sports my Fuji gear was perfect.
 
I have an RX100 Mark 2 that I travel with when I don't want to carry around my Canon 7D Mark 2 & lenses. However, I am intrigued by the burgeoning field of computational photography pushed by mobile phones. I often feel like photos on my wife's iPhone XS has better dynamic range in complex or dark lighting situations.

I'd love an RX100 with processing power of an iPhone.
 
I had the a7r4 on order and canceled it after reading the reviews of the 11. Still non comparison but the iPhone is good enough now and I like the fact it’s always there. I hate lugging a camera around.
 
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