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I was pretty surprised to find out I have 5G at my house. T-Mobile says I don’t have it, according to their map. Guess they haven’t updated yet. I’m satisfied with these speeds. Can’t wait to see what mmWave does.
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Glad this will all be sorted by the time the iPhone 12s or 14 come out

btw - as an ATT customer for 24 years, they’ve failed 100% of the time when a new feature (WiFi calling, SMS/MMS, 4G LTE, etc) comes out.
Verizon failed more often on the device side (I’m looking at you HTC Thunderbolt and Motorola T720).
 
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I was pretty surprised to find out I have 5G at my house. T-Mobile says I don’t have it, according to their map. Guess they haven’t updated yet. I’m satisfied with these speeds. Can’t wait to see what mmWave does.
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I’ve gotten 150-200 on 4G LTE (iPhone 8 Plus) near my house. Uploads are slower, but definitely faster than 28.
even in a crap area - inside - with my 11 Pro Max and wife’s 11, we get 30-50 now.
Then again my home WiFi is 450-550 bidirectional.
 
Ultra wideband is an extra $10. It’s not even available in a wide enough area to justify that price
 
Is 5G even worth it? I mean, LTE was supposed to be "fast," particularly in well-developed areas like mine and I never EVER get more than about 20 megabits on Verizon, and that's if I'm lucky. Most of the time it's anywhere from slow to useless, even with full bars.

And no, it's not just my old phone. My family all have newer devices and Verizon is just as slow.

Yes in general it is. You and I both might be ok but lots of urban areas around the world have congestion on LTE and it's increasing quickly.

However for us buying a phone? For a lot of people who doesn't live in a congested area it is probably not really worth it just yet, if only upgrading for that.
 
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It's very nice that Apple offers this level of configurability for 4G/5G.

I wish they'd do the same in other places and provide a toggle for wifi-calling to be wifi preferred or network preferred for example.
 
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On my 12 Pro with 5G set to Auto on the verizon network I'm watching it switch back and forth between LTE and 5G every 5 to 10 seconds.

I'm wondering if that has anything with Verizon having to use DSS (which shares LTE spectrum) to implement 5G?. Verizon and AT&T are handicapped (as opposed to T-Mobile) by limited 5G spectrum.

 
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I would (for now) use only LTE on the T-Mobile US network. Maybe there will be some improvements in future iOS 14.x releases to make using T-Mobiles sub-6 GHz 5G network so it doesn't run my battery down so often.
 
I currently have AT&T, and only have the options for LTE and 4G. Any ideas why it won’t show 5G?
Probably because you're using two sims. One eSim and a regular one. Currently there is a limitation to LTE instead of 5G in that case. Apple wants to update that later. See separate thread in the forums.
 
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Makes me wonder what do existing 5G Android phones do. Do they have the same kind of settings? I mean 5G isn't really new per se, right?
 
"How to Change 5G Settings on iPhone 12 to Save Data and Battery" meaning "How not to use 5G most of the time, because it's not there yet" Wished they put 120gh sreens over the 5G, at least worth draining my battery for something i would enjoy :) (next year then)
 
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Turned off. 5g only available in big cities over here and as lockdown is on I won’t be going near one till prob after iPhone 13
 
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For example, when the ‌iPhone‌ is updating in the background, it uses LTE because super fast speeds aren't necessary

I wonder if that’s actually a false economy with regard to battery life.

Sure, LTE will use less power, but it will also need to be active for much longer because the data speeds are much slower. If the download can be completed 8X faster on 5G, then it’s probably better to use 5G so the phone can go back to low-power idle mode much sooner.

I suspect where it really matters is when data requirements are really minimal. Just staying connected for incoming notifications, etc.
 
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Turned off. 5g only available in big cities over here and as lockdown is on I won’t be going near one till prob after iPhone 13

Unless Apple really screwed something up, it won’t try to use 5G in areas where 5G isn’t available. So turning 5G off won’t make a difference to battery life here.
 
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If i force it to 5G only, it will stay locked as 5G. If i set it to 5G Auto, it keeps going back and forth between LTE and 5G.

This could be due to some sort of misconfiguration of your carrier’s network. I saw similar things earlier this year when 5G first launched here (Vodafone network in London, UK), but after a couple of months they sorted it out and now it seems to cleanly pick the right network at the right times and not bounce back and forth (nor remain connected to 5G too long of the signal is too weak).
 
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For those on AT&T who aren't seeing 5G options appear, there is likely one of three reasons for that:
  • Your plan does not "support" or allow for 5G access. The only consumer plans that include 5G network access are:
    • The highest end unlimited prepaid (I believe it is the "Unlimited Plus" plan)
    • On postpaid
      • Unlimited Starter
      • Unlimited Extra
      • Unlimited Elite
    • If you are on one of these plans and still not able to choose 5G Auto or 5G On, you may need to contact AT&T to have the correct account codes reprovisioned to your account for 5G
  • You need a new SIM
    • Older SIMs may not support 5G NR. The iPhone 12 SKUs that include carrier activation (the $30 discounted models for iPhone 12 non-Pro) include a SIM in the box that will support 5G. If you bought the SIM-free model, you may need to contact AT&T to have a replacement SIM sent to you or pick up a replacement at an AT&T store
  • You are using dual-SIM mode with an eSIM
    • iPhone 12 (all models) do not currently support 5G when dual-SIM is active, except in China where you can install two physical SIMs into the device
    • eSIM alone should still support 5G, as long as a physical SIM is not also in use. However, some people are finding that they have had to contact AT&T to have the correct account codes for 5G reprovisioned onto their account before the 5G options would appear
 
I would love to not have a 5G chip, gigabit lte is more than enough to play the ocasional youtube video, stream 1080p match, etc, why oh why do we have to pay in battery life for something so meaningless for so many... arent the supposedly use cases ridiculous???
 
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And for those of us who don’t feel a need for 5G but care about battery life and have been worried about the battery capacity reductions this year vs equivalent models last year I actually discovered something encouraging - https://www.tomsguide.com/uk/news/iphone-12-battery-life-results-are-in-and-theyre-not-great

Tbh that test is not correctly done. They’ve used different carriers for the 12 and 12 pro. Since the hardware is exactly the same there shouldn’t be any difference whatsoever.
And as you can see battery life on 4g on the 12/pro is way better than on the iPhone 11 Pro.
 
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I don’t see this option on my iPhone 12. We have the AT&T business unlimited elite plan so we have 5G.
 
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A 5G phone and the first thing folks are told is how to turn off 5G and/or how to reduce 5G usage.

There is something is wrong with that ... :confused:
 
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I have had the "5G on" setting switched on the whole day and battery drain seems ok. But we don't have mm-wave frequencies over here in Europe.
 
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