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jm31828

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For those of you with the mini, what is your battery health at this point?

I’m a light user, only needing to charge every other day and never going below 20% charge- but I am down to 98% health already.
My 1 year old 11 was still at 100% when I sold it, so I am concerned about the health on this one going forward.
 

Soondae

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Bought mine first day available (27 Nov) here in Thailand, still 100%. I hardly use a fast charger but use my 10 watt wireless charger daily. I have on occasion had it get to below 20% and fast charging to 100%, but not normal for me as I just top it off when around 30-40% on the wireless to about 95%.
 

jm31828

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Thanks for the responses so far!

I never use a fast or wireless charger, either... mine is a launch day phone...

At what point would one consider a warranty claim due to the battery? How far would it need to drop in my first year to be considered- would it have to drop all the way to 80%?
 

MarcinRSE

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For those of you with the mini, what is your battery health at this point?

I’m a light user, only needing to charge every other day and never going below 20% charge- but I am down to 98% health already.
My 1 year old 11 was still at 100% when I sold it, so I am concerned about the health on this one going forward.
Relax :)
Day one iPhone 12 mini here. 99% since early February. I use 80-100% of battery daily. Charge it overnight with 5A
 

gogikr

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1 month old stil 100%. I charge with my old iphone 8 charger.. I have fast charger too, but i dont know if its good for tha battery to use fast charger. Charging over the night by the way..
 
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MarkX

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Thanks for the responses so far!

I never use a fast or wireless charger, either... mine is a launch day phone...

At what point would one consider a warranty claim due to the battery? How far would it need to drop in my first year to be considered- would it have to drop all the way to 80%?
Why the heck are you even talking about a battery replacement under warranty? Your phone is still at 98% health! Unclench and relax a little.

Jeez man.
 

ericwn

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Thanks for the responses so far!

I never use a fast or wireless charger, either... mine is a launch day phone...

At what point would one consider a warranty claim due to the battery? How far would it need to drop in my first year to be considered- would it have to drop all the way to 80%?

At over 400 posts I am surprised you ask these questions at all. Stop worrying about the phone until you have reached 80%. It’s not worth your lifetime.
 

hyelton

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At over 400 posts I am surprised you ask these questions at all. Stop worrying about the phone until you have reached 80%. It’s not worth your lifetime.

My previous iPhones had issues once battery health hit under 95%. And by 90% was awful. My friends XR was the same. Below 90% battery life was useless.
 
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ericwn

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My previous iPhones had issues once battery health hit under 95%. And by 90% was awful. My friends XR was the same. Below 90% battery life was useless.

And that can happen anytime of course. It’s an ongoing decline from the day they are made, and the health stuff is an estimate.
 

DeepIn2U

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For those of you with the mini, what is your battery health at this point?

I’m a light user, only needing to charge every other day and never going below 20% charge- but I am down to 98% health already.
My 1 year old 11 was still at 100% when I sold it, so I am concerned about the health on this one going forward.

I think due to you charging it more frequently as a top-up (that's the typical range 80-100% battery capacity where iOS will begin to slow charge as not to damaging or retard battery life prematurely).

99% since early February. I use 80-100% of battery daily. Charge it overnight with 5A
This is how it's meant to be depleted.
 
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yticolev

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Also launch day Mini at 100% health. Batteries come with varying capacities when new, not exactly the same. Coconut Battery reports design capacity at 2214 mAh, however my battery is over that at 2245 mAh currently. I happened to save status on Dec 9th and it was 2250 mAh. So if we go by those numbers, I started at about 101.6% health (capacity). Now Apple will never report health on the phone over 100% and doesn't even publish rated (expected) new capacity to avoid exactly these concerns. But let's say the manufacturing variance is plus/minus 1% of expected capacity. That means there will be a number of phones that always report even new at 99% (assuming Apple uses the widely reported 2214 number).

Really isn't anything to worry about. If capacity drops below 80% during warranty (or AppleCare) period, you will get a new battery for free. If out of warranty, it will be $69 if you use Apple for replacement (third party will be less). That is a pretty small percentage of what your phone is worth so don't worry, be happy!

That said, I'm only charging to 80% daily in an attempt to lengthen battery life. More than enough to get me through the day easily.
 

snipr125

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My Day 1 12 mini has 100% battery capacity, which is obviously good. I generally charge with a 2.1A charger, which does not put too much pressure on the battery, but occasionally use my Air 4 18 watt charger which is blazing fast.

Quick question to my fellow 12 mini owners, how is ios 14.4 on your battery usage? Any drains or anything?
 
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My Day 1 12 mini has 100% battery capacity, which is obviously good. I generally charge with a 2.1A charger, which does not put too much pressure on the battery, but occasionally use my Air 4 18 watt charger which is blazing fast.

Quick question to my fellow 12 mini owners, how is ios 14.4 on your battery usage? Any drains or anything?
I haven't experienced any fast draining or other untoward problems.
 
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jm31828

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At over 400 posts I am surprised you ask these questions at all. Stop worrying about the phone until you have reached 80%. It’s not worth your lifetime.

Reason is just that any other iPhone I’d owned stayed above 97% even after 2 years- so it just concerned me a bit to be down to 98% after only 4 months. Not that 98% is bad, but just thinking about how it could continue dropping quickly.

I’m not stressed over it- I love the phone and will just see how it goes... was just asking the question.
 

jm31828

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Also launch day Mini at 100% health. Batteries come with varying capacities when new, not exactly the same. Coconut Battery reports design capacity at 2214 mAh, however my battery is over that at 2245 mAh currently. I happened to save status on Dec 9th and it was 2250 mAh. So if we go by those numbers, I started at about 101.6% health (capacity). Now Apple will never report health on the phone over 100% and doesn't even publish rated (expected) new capacity to avoid exactly these concerns. But let's say the manufacturing variance is plus/minus 1% of expected capacity. That means there will be a number of phones that always report even new at 99% (assuming Apple uses the widely reported 2214 number).

Really isn't anything to worry about. If capacity drops below 80% during warranty (or AppleCare) period, you will get a new battery for free. If out of warranty, it will be $69 if you use Apple for replacement (third party will be less). That is a pretty small percentage of what your phone is worth so don't worry, be happy!

That said, I'm only charging to 80% daily in an attempt to lengthen battery life. More than enough to get me through the day easily.

Thanks for the info!
I agree- I’m not terribly worried, was just curious snd will just see how it goes. As you said, worst case, it’s only $69 if I do need to change the battery in the future.
 

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I use a mini since 9 Dec and its battery health shows as 100% in Settings > Battery and 99.9% in CoconutBattery. I charge it overnight with Apple’s 5W wired charger and in the car (a 12W plug) when I drive.
 

oelts

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Reason is just that any other iPhone I’d owned stayed above 97% even after 2 years- so it just concerned me a bit to be down to 98% after only 4 months. Not that 98% is bad, but just thinking about how it could continue dropping quickly.

I’m not stressed over it- I love the phone and will just see how it goes... was just asking the question.

I'm facing the same situation as you.

Had an XS that only dipped to 99% after slightly a year. However, my current 12 mini is already 98% after 3 months :(
 

LFC2020

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I'm facing the same situation as you.

Had an XS that only dipped to 99% after slightly a year. However, my current 12 mini is already 98% after 3 months :(
Nothing to worry about, keep using your phone as you normally do, replace battery once it hits 80%, most likely won’t happen for a while, probably have a new phone before that happens. ?
 

apb89

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Launch day iPhone 12 mini here. Just dropped to 99% battery health today. ?
 

itsmeorthedog

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I’ll be surprised if I see a drastic battery health decline. I use my 6th gen iPad when at the house and iPhone 12 when out and about. Only had the 12 since 3 weeks ago, since then I’ve made 6 full charge cycles.
 

powerbook911

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Coconut battery (on Mac) with your device connected is better way to monitor this.

My mini from mid January started out at 104% (of the stated spec). It is now down to 103% after 25 cycles.
 
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