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The first GB5 entry for iPhone 12 Pro confirms 6 GB RAM.
That multi-core score of 3120 is not very good though, at least compared to the iPad Air 4 multi-core scores (4198 & 4262).

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EugW said:
That multi-core score of 3120 is not very good though, at least compared to the iPad Air 4 multi-core scores (4198 & 4262).
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Interesting. That said does it need to be as fast? These things are so overpowered - I'd rather see CPU throttled back and get better battery life. I'm sure it's going to be pretty snappy.
 
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CalMin said:
Interesting. That said does it need to be as fast? These things are so overpowered - I'd rather see CPU throttled back and get better battery life. I'm sure it's going to be pretty snappy.
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No it doesn't need to be that fast, but we already know it's running the same chip at the same clock speed as in the iPad Air 4, so something is off.

It's either just variation under improper testing, or else the iPhone is throttling. However, the test shouldn't be running long enough to throttle that much (unless it's in the sun or charging with a hot battery), so I'm guessing it's the other reason.

Anyhow, there goes the argument made by some here that the phone wouldn't get 6 GB RAM because it doesn't need it. :p
 
CalMin said:
Interesting. That said does it need to be as fast? These things are so overpowered - I'd rather see CPU throttled back and get better battery life. I'm sure it's going to be pretty snappy.
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why should cpu throttle like intel since it isnt goes hot like Intel does?
for battery life, the a14 has efficiency cores
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Lets see users tests on GB after the air and iphone are released
 
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EugW said:
No it doesn't need to be that fast, but we already know it's running the same chip at the same clock speed as in the iPad Air 4, so something is off.

It's either just variation under improper testing, or else the iPhone is throttling. However, the test shouldn't be running long enough to throttle that much (unless it's in the sun or charging with a hot battery), so I'm guessing it's the other reason.

Anyhow, there goes the argument made by some here that the phone wouldn't get 6 GB RAM because it doesn't need it. :p
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SevrinDantus said:
why should cpu throttle like intel since it isnt goes hot like Intel does?
for battery life, the a14 has efficiency cores
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Lets see users tests on GB after the air and iphone are released
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I guess I don't understand this stuff. I was just trying to make the point that these numbers are mostly meaningless when trying assess how these things will feel with daily tasks. iOS and available apps don't exploit the horsepower of these chips.
 
CalMin said:
I guess I don't understand this stuff. I was just trying to make the point that these numbers are mostly meaningless when trying assess how these things will feel with daily tasks. iOS and available apps don't exploit the horsepower of these chips.
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At these levels, the speed is no longer all that important in an iPhone (unless you're gaming or something like that) but my point was it's running the exact same chip at the same clock speed as the iPad Air 4, so it should run about the same. However, the iPhone 12 Pro is scoring much lower than the iPad Air 4.

I suspect that will change as we get more scores though. There typically is a lot of variation in the scores, and if this was an inadvertent release by a reviewer, as opposed to a planted release by Apple, that relatively low multi-core score would make sense.

BTW, MacRumors has just now also posted an article indicating 6 GB RAM is confirmed.
 
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SevrinDantus said:
why should cpu throttle like intel since it isnt goes hot like Intel does?
for battery life, the a14 has efficiency cores
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A13 and A12 already throttle heavily under load. They get hot because the chips consume more than 6W.
 
JPack said:
A13 and A12 already throttle heavily under load. They get hot because the chips consume more than 6W.
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Yeah, but previously the iPhones usually completed the Geekbench 5 test at roughly the same scores unless there was something else going on (like the phone was charging and the battery was heating up).

My wife's A12 iPhone XR scores as fast as the iPad Air 3, at least if I remove it from its thick case.
 
EugW said:
Yeah, but previously the iPhones usually completed the Geekbench 5 test at roughly the same scores unless there was something else going on (like the phone was charging and the battery was heating up).

My wife's A12 iPhone XR scores as fast as the iPad Air 3, at least if I remove it from its thick case.
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TSMC 5nm offers 15% better speed at iso-power. With the bump from 2.65GHz to 3.0GHz, that benefit is used up. But the A14 also gets a 40% jump in transistor count. I suspect the cores are more complex and power hungry and we're now seeing throttling even during a single run of GB.
 
EugW said:
The first GB5 entry for iPhone 12 Pro confirms 6 GB RAM.
That multi-core score of 3120 is not very good though, at least compared to the iPad Air 4 multi-core scores (4198 & 4262).

iPhone13,3 - Geekbench

Benchmark results for an iPhone13,3 with an ARM processor.
browser.geekbench.com

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Fantastic! Glad they finally made the jump to 6GB RAM on iPhone to.

Weird that multi-core score is lower than what the 11 Pro Max was getting.
 
JPack said:
A13 and A12 already throttle heavily under load. They get hot because the chips consume more than 6W.
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JPack said:
TSMC 5nm offers 15% better speed at iso-power. With the bump from 2.65GHz to 3.0GHz, that benefit is used up. But the A14 also gets a 40% jump in transistor count. I suspect the cores are more complex and power hungry and we're now seeing throttling even during a single run of GB.
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iPhone13,3 - Geekbench

Benchmark results for an iPhone13,3 with an ARM processor.
browser.geekbench.com

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I kind of knew that the RAM was going to increase, so let's hope less apps gets closed in the background. Speaking of throttling processors, why couldn't apple include some form of cooling solution in the iphones if that is an issue? Many other brands have similar sized phones with vapour chamber cooling and graphite cooling included, so why is apple still not doing it? Imagine the beastly A14 processor that has IOS optimisations + cooling for sustained performance at higher clock speeds.
 
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