I can't find any solid info yet, but do we know if the 12 lineup all have Qualcomm modems? Even outside the US? The intel modems have not been up to par, and to be honest will nudge me into upgrading to a 12 Pro Max if that's the case.
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Other iPhone 12 Qualcomm modem?
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We will have to wait for iFixit. We have no confirmation yet. Although technically it is all but confirmed. Qualcomm X55.
I didn't think Intel was
a. Making modems any longer.
b. Not making 5g
I could be wrong, but I thought Qualcomm was largely the only modem producer for the US
You are correct, new models via Intel IP will be thorough the new Apple modem team which is still TBD regarding the first gen product.. for now we got Qualcomm!
a - Unless Apple switched to Qualcomm for iPhone XR / 11 as well, Intel will still be making older modems for Apple. And continue to do so until Apple discontinue it. ( Hopefully Soon .... )
And judging from the mmWave and Antenna design, it seems Apple aren't using Qualcomm solution for those either. So there is a very very slim possibility if may not be Qualcomm.
I am glad to know the new phone will have Qualcomm. I hope the new antenna design will make the signal ability even better than it is now.
I believe A14 works with the Qualcomm X60, which is the newest and thus best available of any 5G phone on the market. That they got it across the board in all models is what's surprising. Also that model, the X60, supports all bands hi, lo, medium; and might even be part of the delay this year. It's not anything they've trumpeted; but I think it's the X60
If it were X60, you would have to believe:
- Qualcomm is lying about not shipping X60 until 2021. That means Qualcomm's CEO is would be subject to fraud charges by the SEC.
- Apple isn't advertising the single biggest feature of X60: Sub-6 and mmWave aggregation.
- Apple developed their own "Smart Data Mode" when the X60 already has such a feature. The X55 doesn't.
well; without lamenting 'lies'; there have been discussions about Apple getting X60 first. AND though he didn't mention X60, the article by Jonny Evans mentioned mmWave aggregation and covering all 3 bands for 5G... so...
I also read it was the X55. The X60 is not due until next year so Apple couldn't have used it if they wanted to. Might be worth the upgrade next fall just for this.
We have credible sources including Kuo, Nikkei, and L0vetodream claiming X55. DigiTimes is the only one claiming X60. Not sure who Evans is, but doubt he has any inside info.
There are a two reason why it likely won't be X60.
X60 is based on TSMC 5nm, I doubt any sane company would want to ramp up 5nm for Both its SoC and Modem at the same time. 5nm being limited in capacity, expensive as leading edge.
X60 was only announced this year Feb. Any Modem decision had to be done 1 year in advance. As *confirmed* by Apple and Qualcomm's testimony during their legal battle. I used the word "confirmed" here because it was widely known for years but never stated explicitly. It was only in those court cases did it get confirmed.
As a matter of fact, manufacturing capacity and testing lead time has been pointed out again and again even during the Intel Modem era, and yet analysts and media simply ignores them. Which leads me to believe their agenda is only to push out either more clicks, trying pumb up stock price or anything BUT reporting an objective truth.
Of course, as with every generation since Intel Modem era, I would very much want to be wrong and want it to be X60. But the chance of that happening is again.... very very, very slim.
Gruber said in his breakdown analysis of iPhone 12 that Apple used Qualcomm and that may be a factor driving up the cost is the 5g radios in general (and OLED across the board) for the $129 price hike from 11 to 12
Probably the biggest reason for me upgrading. I expected better cellular results because of the modem no longer being Intel than I do b/c of 5G. My X, XS, and 11 Pro have all had lackluster coverage in less than ideal coverage areas. Very excited to see how this new phone does.
BACK IN THE DAY, IPHONE BUYERS WERE CONCERNED WITH THE MODEM THAT WAS USED FOR THE SERVICE THEY HAD.
ATT WAS INTEL, VERIZON WAS QUAL COM.... QUAL COM WAS CONSIDERED THE BETTER...
SO NOW THAT THE I12 IS 5G, IS THE MODEM QUAL COM? DO YOU EXPECT BETTER SERVICE WITH THE QUALCOM MODEM?
WHAT ARE THE TECHNICAL ISSUES TO BE CONSIDERED?
ATT WAS INTEL, VERIZON WAS QUAL COM.... QUAL COM WAS CONSIDERED THE BETTER...
SO NOW THAT THE I12 IS 5G, IS THE MODEM QUAL COM? DO YOU EXPECT BETTER SERVICE WITH THE QUALCOM MODEM?
WHAT ARE THE TECHNICAL ISSUES TO BE CONSIDERED?
I could not wait to get rid of my XS Max. The signal was just awful.