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Apple is expected to retain its smallest 5.4-inch iPhone model size in its forthcoming iPhone 13 lineup, despite a barrage of recent reports suggesting lackluster iPhone 12 mini sales.

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2021 began with a report suggesting Apple's iPhone 12 mini, which is the smallest iPhone that has been released since the 2016 iPhone SE, was not selling as well as Apple hoped, making up just 6% of iPhone 12 sales in the U.S. in October and November, according to data gathered by Consumer Intelligence Research.

Later in January, a Morgan Stanley investment note claimed Apple had cut production of the iPhone 12 mini by two million units to create more manufacturing capacity for the more popular iPhone 12 Pro.

That was quickly followed by a Taiwanese report citing supply chain sources that appeared to corroborate this narrative, suggesting that strong demand for ‌iPhone 12 Pro‌ models in China had led Apple to strengthen its supply of the more expensive devices in response.

Come February, Counterpoint Research weighed in with its own analysis which continued the same theme, claiming that the iPhone 12 mini accounted for only 5% of all iPhone 12 sales in the U.S. in the first half of January.

A few reasons have been offered for the poor iPhone 12 mini sales, despite broad satisfaction reported by owners of the smaller device. One is that Apple's smallest iPhone 12 model was launched to target the U.S. and European markets, but the global health crisis has impacted sales in these territories, leading to a slowdown in ‌iPhone 12 mini‌ orders.

The theory goes that with people staying at home a lot more during lockdown, smartphone users are consuming more content on their device and therefore want bigger screens to enjoy it. A consequence is that users don't have as much opportunity to appreciate the convenience of having a smaller phone in their pocket while out and about.

Meanwhile, though China has not been as severely impacted by the health crisis in recent months compared to these parts of the world, the East Asian market has historically favored larger form factor devices, which has put iPhone 12 mini at a disadvantage in those regions from the get-go.

Another possible factor is the continuing availability of lower-cost models like the $399 ‌iPhone SE‌, $499 iPhone XR, and $599 ‌iPhone 11‌, which may have ultimately limited the appeal of the more expensive ‌iPhone 12 mini‌, which is priced at $699.

Despite these variables – along with a recent claim by JPMorgan Chase that Apple plans to discontinue iPhone 12 mini production in the second quarter of 2021 – it is understood that Apple has not given up on the 5.4-inch model yet, and is broadly expected to include the form factor in its iPhone 13 lineup, likely to be launched in the fall.

This belief is reflected in the earliest reports of the iPhone 13 series, all of which underlined that Apple would follow the same four-model lineup as the iPhone 12 in the same three sizes. Indeed, Apple will have had its iPhone 13 production and supply chain operation planned out well in advance, and if the above reasons for poor iPhone 12 mini sales are on the mark, Apple may well be expecting an upturn in demand for the smaller size in its target markets, as vaccination programs roll out and lockdowns ease over the course of the year.

As recently as this past weekend, hit-and-miss Apple leaker Jon Prosser claimed that the iPhone 13 mini will indeed materialize later this year, with the accompanying claim that there will be no new "2021" iPhone SE, of which the current model may have cannibalized some iPhone 12 mini sales.

All in all, despite the early doom and gloom, "mini" fans still have reason to be cheerful as we move through the year and approach the next launch of a new series of Apple smartphones.

Article Link: iPhone 13 Mini Still Expected Despite Lackluster iPhone 12 Mini Sales
 
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It was always my guess that with people being stuck at home more often, portability wasn’t a huge factor in the buying process.

I’ll probably end up buying a Mini, but it depends on a few things around my work, and increasing use of my personal mobile phone (I work at a hospital).
 
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Was going to order the Pro because I couldn't get to a shop to see the line up in real life.

I eventually made it to a department store, upon seeing all 4 devices together - Pro Max / Pro / 12 / Mini, I just had to buy the mini.

I think it's not selling well as people are not a) seeing it in stores b) seeing friends with it as no socialising at the moment.
 

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I wonder if there was a mini "pro" if that would sell more or it would still be the same. I'm thinking one with similar camera and lidar (if that's even possible with the physical constraints). That's the biggest thing holding me back from "upgrading" from my 11 Pro (and maybe battery life, but I think I could survive a decrease in battery life)

Edit @Delta-NC beat me to it
 

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Some of these theories are just excuses that don’t make sense.

The large 6.5” models were popular even before the pandemic. The largest installed base of customers are the 6.1” XR and 11. People for the past several years simply prefer large displays for consuming media.

And no, people aren’t cross-shopping between the $399 SE and $729 mini. Those are two entirely different products targeting different customers.
 

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I’d have to agree. I know the SE cannibalized some Mini sales.

Also, despite the performance, the price and battery life kills it.
Great companies are not afraid of cannibalising sales, if it's their own product doing that (otherwise some other company will).
But the Mini is selling 12 million phones, and though it's small in comparison with the other models, it's important to the customers that prefer smaller devices.
 
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It's an 'S year' so unsurprising each model will carry over from the existing lineup (I'm still not entirely convinced this year will be 13 rather than 12s). More telling will be if it continues on in September 2022, and if it does whether it is made 5.8".
 
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I’m just basking in the schadenfreude of those who were so sure the public wanted a small phone format, that phones had gotten too big and the small form factor would take off like a rocket to dominate the market once gain. Not.
 

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Now that we know (or have it on good authority, anyway) that there will be an iPhone 13 Mini, I wonder if, upon its arrival, Apple will keep both the 12 and 12 Mini in the lineup or just one or the other.

As the recent generations of phones have aged out of their top spot, the pricier 5.8” XS/11-Pro have been discontinued in favor of the lower cost 6.1” XR/11. Presumably the same will happen with the 12 vs. the 12 Pro. But just how the new Mini line will fit into this trend is not yet known.
 
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Also, despite the performance, the price and battery life kills it.
It's sad (almost to the point of being funny) to read this so often from (probably) non-iPhone 12 mini owners. It's a totally false claim. In reality, the iPhone 12 mini has great battery life. Much better compared to iPhone 8, X, XS, SE2020. Only when you compare it to physically huge phones, like the 11 and normal 12, with (obviously) larger batteries, it's performs a little less, which is plain obvious.

Coming from any of the above mentioned models, you will enjoy a very noticeable improved battery life!
 

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Apple is expected to retain its smallest 5.4-inch iPhone model size in its forthcoming iPhone 13 lineup, despite a barrage of recent reports suggesting lackluster iPhone 12 mini sales.

iphone-12-vs-iphone-12-mini.jpg

2021 began with a report suggesting Apple's iPhone 12 mini, which is the smallest iPhone that has been released since the 2016 iPhone SE, was not selling as well as Apple hoped, making up just 6% of iPhone 12 sales in the U.S. in October and November, according to data gathered by Consumer Intelligence Research.

Later in January, a Morgan Stanley investment note claimed Apple had cut production of the iPhone 12 mini by two million units to create more manufacturing capacity for the more popular iPhone 12 Pro.

That was quickly followed by a Taiwanese report citing supply chain sources that appeared to corroborate this narrative, suggesting that strong demand for ‌iPhone 12 Pro‌ models in China had led Apple to strengthen its supply of the more expensive devices in response.

Come February, Counterpoint Research weighed in with its own analysis which continued the same theme, claiming that the iPhone 12 mini accounted for only 5% of all iPhone 12 sales in the U.S. in the first half of January.

A few reasons have been offered for the poor iPhone 12 mini sales, despite broad satisfaction reported by owners of the smaller device. One is that Apple's smallest iPhone 12 model was launched to target the U.S. and European markets, but the global health crisis has impacted sales in these territories, leading to a slowdown in ‌iPhone 12 mini‌ orders.

The theory goes that with people staying at home a lot more during lockdown, smartphone users are consuming more content on their device and therefore want bigger screens to enjoy it. A consequence is that users don't have as much opportunity to appreciate the convenience of having a smaller phone in their pocket while out and about.

Meanwhile, though China has not been as severely impacted by the health crisis in recent months compared to these parts of the world, the East Asian market has historically favored larger form factor devices, which has put iPhone 12 mini at a disadvantage in those regions from the get-go.

Another possible factor is the continuing availability of lower-cost models like the $399 ‌iPhone SE‌, $499 iPhone XR, and $599 ‌iPhone 11‌, which may have ultimately limited the appeal of the more expensive ‌iPhone 12 mini‌, which is priced at $699.

Despite these variables – along with a recent claim by JPMorgan Chase that Apple plans to discontinue iPhone 12 mini production in the second quarter of 2021 – it is understood that Apple has not given up on the 5.4-inch model yet, and is broadly expected to include the form factor in its iPhone 13 lineup, likely to be launched in the fall.

This belief is reflected in the earliest reports of the iPhone 13 series, all of which underlined that Apple would follow the same four-model lineup as the iPhone 12 in the same three sizes. Indeed, Apple will have had its iPhone 13 production and supply chain operation planned out well in advance, and if the above reasons for poor iPhone 12 mini sales are on the mark, Apple may well be expecting an upturn in demand for the smaller size in its target markets, as vaccination programs roll out and lockdowns ease over the course of the year.

As recently as this past weekend, hit-and-miss Apple leaker Jon Prosser claimed that the iPhone 13 mini will indeed materialize later this year, with the accompanying claim that there will be no new "2021" iPhone SE, of which the current model may have cannibalized some iPhone 12 mini sales.

All in all, despite the early doom and gloom, "mini" fans still have reason to be cheerful as we move through the year and approach the next launch of a new series of Apple smartphones.

Article Link: iPhone 13 Mini Still Expected Despite Lackluster iPhone 12 Mini Sales
This actually makes sense, assuming the SE and the XR are dropped, the new range will look something like this:
12S Pro Max. $1,099
12S Pro $999
12S $799
12S Mini $699
12 $699
12 Mini $599
11 $499
 

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The question is why are people buying a mini phone? Is it for the size or is it because it’s cheaper than the larger phones? If it’s the former than the XR and 11 won’t factor into the sales too much. The SE would have impacted on the sales as that is a smaller phone too.

The pandemic excuse can go both ways. Yes maybe people were staying in more so didn’t need a portable device so went for larger phones. However many people buy larger phones because they don’t want to carry around a tablet/laptop and a phone. However being at home means you have access to your other devices like tablets and computers and therefore could get a smaller phone.
 
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Falhófnir

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Now that we know (or have it on good authority, anyway) that there will be an iPhone 13 Mini, I wonder if, upon its arrival, Apple will keep both the 12 and 12 Mini in the lineup or just one or the other.

As the recent generations of phones have aged out of their top spot, the pricier 5.8” XS/11-Pro have been discontinued in favor of the lower cost 6.1” XR/11. Presumably the same will happen with the 12 vs. the 12 Pro. But just how the new Mini line will fit into this trend is not yet known.
The X/Pro models are substituted yearly, but the XR and 11 have continued the sliding phase out we've had almost from the beginning. The 6 and 6+ through 8 and 8+ all both stayed in the lineup until discontinued together, so presumably both the 12 and 12 mini will remain on sale for a couple more generations.
 
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