Hadn’t thought of that (stolen phone), good point.
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iPhone 13 Models Support Dual eSIMs [Updated]
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I hope this move encourages more carriers to adopt eSIM. I use an MVNO where eSIM isn't an option, but would prefer to have my physical SIM slot free for international travel whenever that becomes feasible again. If they're forcing native carriers to use eSIM as a result of this move to sell directly through Apple, perhaps it will help eSIM trickle down to other carriers faster.
Or if there's truth to the iOS 15 beta feature mentioned on the previous page, I guess that works. I don't know how that could be real though, what would prevent someone from stealing a SIM and cloning it then?
Or if there's truth to the iOS 15 beta feature mentioned on the previous page, I guess that works. I don't know how that could be real though, what would prevent someone from stealing a SIM and cloning it then?
Very cool… but they need to fix the framing no notification badge notification when someone is leaving a voicemail.
i get the notification when using a physical sim… and not badge when esim. My provider says it’s apples fault… apple says to contact my provider.
i get the notification when using a physical sim… and not badge when esim. My provider says it’s apples fault… apple says to contact my provider.
You want cheaper than $8/mo for unlimited talk/text and no data (U.S. Mobile and Tello)?
Every now and again, Tracfone will run a special through their eBay store for 360 days (not 365 days) of service for unlimited talk/text for $100 -- choice of AT&T, Verizon, or T-Mobile network.
If you don't need unlimited talk/text, then there are even less expensive plans such as the recent (but expired) offer for 1200 minutes talk / 1200 text for 1 year prepaid plan for $24, or customize a plan from Tello (300 minutes talk / unlimited text / no data is $6/mo) or U.S. Mobile
There's also Red Pocket (T-Mobile MVNO) on eBay. You can get a 1 year plan that gives you 200 minutes talk / 1000 text per / 200 MB data per month for $30 (works out to $2.50/mo)
None of this applies if you're outside the U.S. though. But if you're not, cheap no data plans do exist.
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Like previously the Hong Kong IPhone 13 and Pro (not the mini though) support two nano sim trays without any software limitation.
There is hardware attached to eSIM, a secure chip that the eSIM relies on for verification, so this probably has doubled up eSIM secure chips (Or a new eSIM chip that has 2 secured elements for 2 simultaneous eSIMs).
I was able to swap mine via online chat with no issues or fees.
I think if you take the SIM out and download the Verizon app you may be able to do it yourself in the app.
The **only** issue I found, is that my vehicle (‘19 VW) doesn’t recognize my phone when it’s using e-sim. It just says “no sim” on the screen and doesn’t show signal strength. It still works fine with CarPlay.
Oh it’s a major stepping phone for a future powerless iPhone! When that debuts also expect a higher IPxx rating as well that the competition will be envious of.
still this is a nice touch. Does it mean 3 lines can be active? Those OnlyFans type ppl will be eating this up like candy lol.
@rjohnstone good post and thinking.
both and others recall since iOS 13 the low power use for FindMy even when the phone is “off” that others with iPhone close by will silently transmit the iPhones location so pretty much anti theft and theft finding at all times!!
lol I can’t wait till all Apple stores fully open up and we see boneheads taking dual esim iPhone 13s trying to sell them lol. Like “the money team” guys at Burger King self evidenced on YouTube. Look that up it’s comical.
Not something I’ve really looked into, but Apple have a support page about this.
it’s essentially a software sim, instead of a physical sim. When T-Mobile changed mine, I just read off some numbers from the “about” screen, and they changed it on their end and after that I took out my physical card. If you want to use it, you can just call Verizon support and they can switch it on their end. You can also add a new e-sim just by scanning a QR code, but I haven’t personally seen it.
I’m back to a regular sim for boring reasons. There is absolutely no difference day-to-day.
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This is making me wonder how many years until Apple gets rid of the SIM card slot completely.
I love having a physical SIM for my main line, because it makes it trivial to move my service to a new device if something happens to my phone. If things end up going eSIM only it'll be like the old days of CDMA2000 carriers like Sprint and Verizon where you had to call in to move your line.
I love having a physical SIM for my main line, because it makes it trivial to move my service to a new device if something happens to my phone. If things end up going eSIM only it'll be like the old days of CDMA2000 carriers like Sprint and Verizon where you had to call in to move your line.
It’ll be a while. There are still A LOT of areas/carriers that don’t support it yet, but who knows.
Apple still offers a dual physical-sim phone in China.
I hope soon, as it’s probably the only way to force many archaic carriers like ones in my country to adopt the tech. These carriers are so lazy despite them raking in huge profits from the pandemic.
The magic of eSIM is gonna be using a carrier app to activate a phone (or it may become like the iPad and let you sign in right from Settings). Yes you’ll need WiFi to download the app and sign in to activate, but it can be done over public WiFi.