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Or just use it as you’d like, charging when you’d like, and it will still last 4 or 5 years before you need a battery replacement.

from Apple:

"A normal battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles when operating under normal conditions"

Anyway... not my phone, not my problem. Good luck.
 
Does anyone know where I can get a good liquid helium charging cooler? My liquid nitrogen chiller is nice and all, but I am wanting to go extreme.
 
from Apple:

"A normal battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 500 complete charge cycles when operating under normal conditions"

Anyway... not my phone, not my problem. Good luck.

How does that quote contradict what I said? It’s not like the average user does a complete charge cycle every day. As for “good luck,” I guess I’ve had that. I’ve owned one or more of every new iphone series since the beginning (other than the 12 series), and each year I pass mine down, and then that gets passed down, so that each is used for several years. Still have an iPhone X going strong at the moment, as well as an iPhone XS and an iPhone 11 in the family. No weird charging rituals in our household.
 
Completely understandable. But I don’t get why the people who upgrade every year care. Why talk about battery health or the environment when they will upgrade their phone every year anyways.
I usually upgrade my phone every year. That said, I don't send my old phone in for recycling. I find someone who needs a phone and gift the old one down. It's not always going to low income people. Last year, I had a friend who had been getting a phone from his company. They told him, accounting is making us sell all the phones, so get one for yourself.
 
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Just as there are people who vehemently argue that charging a smaller MacBook using the higher wattage power adapter included with a larger MacBook will overpower and damage the smaller laptop, expect to see the same arguments against charging the iPhone using the power adapter from a larger MacBook. Apparently, charging modern electronic devices using a modern power adapter is the same as wiring the battery directly to a power outlet.
 
Interesting that Apple didn't call this out.

Not interesting at all. While some may disagree, that faster, hotter charging will have an impact on the battery over time. The battery cells will literally be cooked through several cycles of charging. Apple is safely staying within a responsible threshold to maximize the battery's life.
 
Not interesting at all. While some may disagree, that faster, hotter charging will have an impact on the battery over time. The battery cells will literally be cooked through several cycles of charging. Apple is safely staying within a responsible threshold to maximize the battery's life.

As an electrical engineer with a Ph.D, I don’t think that’s what “literally” means.
 
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Same. Speed is everything because your phone needs to be portable. I’m in the iPhone Upgrade Program so I replace my phone every year (or more often if I break it) so I’m not too worried about battery health.
I don’t care for my battery health either because of the same reason. I won’t be surprised I get the next iPhone in 2022. I am not using the iPhone upgrade program. I use the Apple Card financing. I typically bring my Macbook Air M1 charger in my bag. I did notice my iPhone 13 Pro Max charger faster than I expected. “That is a good Apple” as Brian Tong would say.
 
For all of those that need confirmation, my regular IPhone 13 Pro (not Max) does NOT support a 25W charger.

My wife and I switched to Samsung after the jailbreaking fun ended @ or around the IPhone 5 and I have never looked back. My wife, however, is switching from a Samsung S20 Ultra 5G to a IPhone 13 Pro so we will see how it goes.

Sad to say... this is not a good start. I understand the Pro Max is the better comparison to her existing phone but she wanted a smaller form factor.

Bottom line is, both models SHOULD, at the very LEAST, support 25W charging FFS! We are almost in 2022!
 
Or just use it as you’d like, charging when you’d like, and it will still last 4 or 5 years before you need a battery replacement.
Will it actually last 4-5 years if you charge as you like?
 
Will it actually last 4-5 years if you charge as you like?
My XS Max is three years old and I've 'charged it as I like' since I've had it - usually on a variety of chargers, but mainly on the 30w Apple charger.
The battery health is showing as 95%, so I can't be unhappy with that.
 
Will it actually last 4-5 years if you charge as you like?

Well, in my experience yes. I’ve owned 1 or more each of the original iphone, iphone 3g, iphone 4, 4S, 5, Etc. all the way up to the 11 pro max, and now 13 pro max. Each time i get a new phone, i give my old one to a family member, who then gives hers to another family member, etc. Most times that means the phone is in use for 4 years, but we’ve had a few occasions of 5 or 6. Only one has needed a battery replacement (which, by the way, is not particularly expensive around here for a 4+ year old iphone), and that was after 4 years. I have a shoebox full of old iphones dating back to the original, all of which have working batteries.

And none of us has ever paid any attention to charging. We plug it in each night, sit it on a qi charger at work, plug it in when driving, etc., and it is what it is. When we have long days out and about, it discharges until it goes into low power mode, and, once in awhile, runs out of juice. Just normal usage without any thought about 20% or 80%.

Now, if you run it from 100% to 0% every day, then, yes, you’ll go through full charge cycles every day, and then apple tells you that will degrade the battery if you do it 500 times. So heavy users may want to take different action if they don’t want to replace their battery at some point.
 
For all of those that need confirmation, my regular IPhone 13 Pro (not Max) does NOT support a 25W charger.

My wife and I switched to Samsung after the jailbreaking fun ended @ or around the IPhone 5 and I have never looked back. My wife, however, is switching from a Samsung S20 Ultra 5G to a IPhone 13 Pro so we will see how it goes.

Sad to say... this is not a good start. I understand the Pro Max is the better comparison to her existing phone but she wanted a smaller form factor.

Bottom line is, both models SHOULD, at the very LEAST, support 25W charging FFS! We are almost in 2022!
Who honestly cares. If it charges 20 mins quicker? The iPhone lasts as long or longer than anything else on the market. Surely the 30mins extra charging time while you’re sleeping can be managed to some degree…
 
Nice that it can support faster charging speeds when you need it. But faster speeds may have impact on battery health.
 
so 20w only worked with USB-C PD at 9V / 2.22A which many adaptors did not support at launch of iPhone 12 (so they fell back to 5v/3A - 15 watts). What does 27w take, hopefully 9v/3a standard (15v/2a). And does the Apple 30w charger fall from 27w to 20w or fall straight to 15w due to lack of 2.22A support?
Any ideas ?
 
I set up a notification that i get on my Apple Watch when the charge level hits 80%
I finally got around to this could you please explain how you set this up? I can’t seem to figure it out.

Whoops sorry ignore this it seems that “Show notification“ is the best option
 
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I finally got around to this could you please explain how you set this up? I can’t seem to figure it out.

Whoops sorry ignore this it seems that “Show notification“ is the best option
 

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I don't think it'll make that much of a difference because it slows the charging down the closer it gets to 100%, but I'm interested in seeing a test comparing the iPhone 12 and 13

Edit: According to this article, it gets to 48% in 30 minutes. That's roughly the same as the 12 pro max. But it's also a larger battery overall.


That’s the exact number I just got with my 13 Pro Max. From 19% to 67% in 30 minutes. Using an Anker 30 watt PowerPort III mini.
 
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I’ve been charging my 11 Pro with 20W chargers for the last 2 years and am currently at 92% battery life. I also keep my phone above 80% if I can help it-always have, and I’ve never had problems with losing battery life. I’m not a heavy user though.
I'm crying :( had my 11 Pro Max replaced a year ago and am at 87%
 
I'm crying :( had my 11 Pro Max replaced a year ago and am at 87%
I know it’s against all others advice, but I’ve always kept my phones charged up. They rarely go below 80% and I’ve never had premature battery wear issues-at least so far. Conversely, my wife has always let her phones dip below 50%, and she has always had far more battery wear. When I traded my 11 Pro, it was at 92%, her 11 Pro was at 83% I’m now on a 13 Pro so we’ll see how that goes. ?
 
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If you are regularly charging your phone all night, you are doing it wrong. If you are regularly draining your battery below 20%, you are doing it wrong.

Keep your battery between 20 and 80%... That's how my 12 pro max still has 100% battery health still and I only use a Apple 30watt fast charger.
You can keep your Iphone on the charger 24/7 all night without degrading the battery. Just set it to "Optimized battery Charging” in IOS settings. It will wait to charge past 80% as it predicts usage patterns.
 
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