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Is it worth it? Phone is paid off and only considering upgrading because of the trade-in value right now vs next year for the 13 Pro max.
I usually upgrade every two years but skipped over the 15.
 
Is it worth it? Phone is paid off and only considering upgrading because of the trade-in value right now vs next year for the 13 Pro max.
I usually upgrade every two years but skipped over the 15.

I am likely going to do this. Not sure which pro model I want though.
 
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Is it worth it? Phone is paid off and only considering upgrading because of the trade-in value right now vs next year for the 13 Pro max.
I usually upgrade every two years but skipped over the 15.
Yes. I’ve gone 13/14/15. 13 and 15 were great phones.

I’ve really loved my 15PM and even with the IUP I was only going to get the 16 if it came in Raw Ti again.

My SO smashed her 13PM in a car door a couple months ago and I had already given all my old phones to family so had to get her a 15PM. She felt the difference was significant, like a lot better.

If you go caseless, 13PM to 16PM will feel like a massive improvement in performance, screen, camera and hand feel(based off my 15PM)
 
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It's worth it to me, but that doesn't mean it's worth it to anybody/everybody else. The 16 Pro has some feature updates that I want, but those features may be completely meaningless to somebody else.
 
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Considering same thing. Wife and I have 13 Pro Max and 13 Pro respectively. Phones still seem good, but batteries are also down to 84% and 81%. Debating if this 16 Pro series is finally worth upgrading to or wait one more year and maybe just take the current phones to the Apple Store and get new batteries installed.
 
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Is it worth it? Phone is paid off and only considering upgrading because of the trade-in value right now vs next year for the 13 Pro max.
I usually upgrade every two years but skipped over the 15.
I am in the same boat with the 13 Pro. Thinking of going with the bigger screen. I figure 3 years is a reasonable upgrade path. Just struggling with Pro vs Pro Max. Honestly, if the regular 16 was 120 hz I would consider that.
 
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13 pro max here.

A tough choice this year as tbh the differences aren't that great. There is the camera of course (as with the 15).
Would have to be pro-max for 120Hz screen.
It's really stick (with possible battery update) or go.
 
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I am in the same boat with the 13 Pro. Thinking of going with the bigger screen. I figure 3 years is a reasonable upgrade path. Just struggling with Pro vs Pro Max. Honestly, if the regular 16 was 120 hz I would consider that.

I am struggling too bc I really don’t want a bigger phone and yet I don’t want a smaller phone either and I do want a pro model haha
 
I have the 13PM too. Battery is at 86% plus my charging port doesn’t work properly, it needs a new one. At the moment I have to wirelessly charge the phone all the time which is frustrating. So going to get the 16PM. If the battery was 90%+ and the charging port wasn’t faulty, I’d probably hold on till the 17PM as the phone itself works perfectly.
 
13 Pro with 84% battery, going for the 16 Pro after 3 years, i’m curious if I spot any differences in the photo department on the first sight
 
I just noticed my battery is down to 83. It was 86 like last month smh. So I guess I will upgrade but not sure to what yet.
 
I think what it comes down to for me is the trade-in value I'll get this year vs. next year. So I've decided to upgrade to the 16 PM.
 
I'm going for it. If the AT&T's trade-in value remains as it currently indicates, I'll do a trade-in.
 
keeping my 13PM for one more year. Battery is still really good (90%), and the screen is 9/10 shape (one minor microscratch). I am fine with the 128GB storage, so I hate that I'm forced to buy a 256 in the pro model (that cost more than my 128)

I played with my wife's 15Pro and there really isn't any difference in terms of day to day usage. When they put in 48MP sensors for all cameras, that will justify the upgrade
 
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Is it worth it? Phone is paid off and only considering upgrading because of the trade-in value right now vs next year for the 13 Pro max.
I usually upgrade every two years but skipped over the 15.
I think what it comes down to for me is the trade-in value I'll get this year vs. next year. So I've decided to upgrade to the 16 PM.
Trade-in value is my concern as well. This is the real topic of conversation.

Will 13 Pro Max retain its relative trade-in value in 2025 for #17? To expound, will #17 make *the* leap into tech that (a) not only definitively sets it apart from #11/12--16 but also (b) totally destroys the trade-in value of "deprecated" tech that leaves us no choice but to recoup any pittance in trade-in value?"

These are the current trade-in values for Pro Max models and net-cost for #16PM 256 GB (*base storage) at $1200:

PM# $trade-in $net-cost 11 180 1020 12 300 900 13 400 800 14 500 700 15 650 550

Can we assume 13PM will retain a trade-in value of $300 in 2025 for #17 (*relative to the value of 12PM in 2024)?
If so, a 2025 $300 trade-in value would be OK to wait for #17PM if base storage costs $1200. That is a $900 net-cost for #17PM.

Otherwise, if we do (a) trade-in 13PM for 16PM for $400 at a net-cost of $800, and then (b) trade-in 16PM for 17PM while assuming the trade-in value of 16PM is at most or less $650 for a net-cost of $550 (==$1200 – 650), which means (c) the net-cost to own 16PM and 17PM over two years is $1350 (*also see note [1]), which puts net-cost in the RED to own "deprecated" #16 and "advanced" #17 tech vs. a $900--1200 hypothetical net-cost for 17PM if we skip #16.

However, the worst case scenario is the 2025 trade-in value of 13PM totally tanks below $200. I wouldn't be surprised if APPL totally wiped out trade-in for #7--X series models and replaced that segment with #11--13 models.

[1] Net-cost to own 16 Plus and 17PM with 2024 13PM trade-in value is $1270 if you can tolerate a Plus model for one year (*see note [2]).
[2] 16 Plus 128 GB == $900; 2024 trade-in values for 15 Plus $430 and 14 Plus $320

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arrrrgh AAPL is the master of this BS combo of pricing strategy and unpredictable increments. I waste more time and energy with this annual guessing-game than its worth to save one or two hundred dollars. 😂
 
Thought that this update would be mostly underwhelming. So yeah, am keeping my 13PM for another year. Never once have I said, "Gee, this phone is really slowing down!". Still does everything I need it to very ably. I'm not a gamer on my phone so I really don't care about all that processing power and ray tracing that the 16 Pro phones apparently will have. And not that it's a huge deal, but....the colors on the pro phones are really kinda boring. I really my Sierra Blue and the Pacific Blue of the 12's were really nice as well. Wish they would have kept the blue titanium and/or had a deep purple variation like the 14's had.

Anyway -- definitely sitting this year out. Maybe the 17 will be more to my liking.
 
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Thought that this update would be mostly underwhelming. So yeah, am keeping my 13PM for another year. Never once have I said, "Gee, this phone is really slowing down!". Still does everything I need it to very ably. I'm not a gamer on my phone so I really don't care about all that processing power and ray tracing that the 16 Pro phones apparently will have. And not that it's a huge deal, but....the colors on the pro phones are really kinda boring. I really my Sierra Blue and the Pacific Blue of the 12's were really nice as well. Wish they would have kept the blue titanium and/or had a deep purple variation like the 14's had.

Anyway -- definitely sitting this year out. Maybe the 17 will be more to my liking.

Thing is the 17 is likely to just be more AI, features , maybe 12GB Ram, and slightly better cameras. It’ll be another “meh” upgrade. It may be the iPhone 19 or 20 before there’s greater features. There were quite a few changes between the X and 13PM and then it’s been a lot less since.
 
I will wait for 17.

My 13PM has 92% battery capacity, enough storage space for another year, and everything still works.

Next year 17 PM will have 12G memory and Apple gets all AI figured out. A better experience out of box.
 
Interesting that no one here mentioned the new iOS 18 features such as satellite texting and offline map tracking with topo maps. Why do I mention this? Because these features will only work on an iPhone 14 or greater. Sorry but iPhone 13 users are left out. If you venture into the wilderness or anywhere where there is no cell signal, these Sat features alone are worth the price of admission. A Garmin device capable of these features runs $700 and their user implementation is garbage on top of charging a monthly fee. This will also render many of the sports tracking apps obsolete too. IMHO if you are an outdoor enthusiast or even have the occasional need to text (emergency or otherwise) when there is no cell signal, this is a significant upgrade. As a user of an aging 13 pro max, upgrading to a 16 pro max along with these and other improvements like the camera, battery, and apple intellegence, make this a valid consideration.
 
Interesting that no one here mentioned the new iOS 18 features such as satellite texting and offline map tracking with topo maps. Why do I mention this? Because these features will only work on an iPhone 14 or greater. Sorry but iPhone 13 users are left out. If you venture into the wilderness or anywhere where there is no cell signal, these Sat features alone are worth the price of admission. A Garmin device capable of these features runs $700 and their user implementation is garbage on top of charging a monthly fee. This will also render many of the sports tracking apps obsolete too. IMHO if you are an outdoor enthusiast or even have the occasional need to text (emergency or otherwise) when there is no cell signal, this is a significant upgrade. As a user of an aging 13 pro max, upgrading to a 16 pro max along with these and other improvements like the camera, battery, and apple intellegence, make this a valid consideration.
Satellite texting/SOS was one of the factors that played a major role in my decision to upgrade to the 16 Pro from my 13 Pro. I spend a considerable amount of time in areas with no cell coverage, so it's a safety issue for me.
 
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